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The Alleged Mind of Donald Trump

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Narcissism, disagreeableness, grandiosity—a psychologist investigates how Trump’s extraordinary personality might shape his possible presidency.

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IN 2006, DONALD TRUMP made plans to purchase the Menie Estate, near Aberdeen, Scotland, aiming to convert the dunes and grassland into a luxury golf resort. He and the estate’s owner, Tom Griffin, sat down to discuss the transaction at the **** & Bull restaurant. Griffin recalls that Trump was a hard-nosed negotiator, reluctant to give in on even the tiniest details. But, as Michael D’Antonio writes in his recent biography of Trump, Never Enough, Griffin’s most vivid recollection of the evening pertains to the theatrics. It was as if the golden-haired guest sitting across the table were an actor playing a part on the London stage.

“It was Donald Trump playing Donald Trump,” Griffin observed. There was something unreal about it.

The same feeling perplexed Mark Singer in the late 1990s when he was working on a profile of Trump for The New Yorker. Singer wondered what went through his mind when he was not playing the public role of Donald Trump. What are you thinking about, Singer asked him, when you are shaving in front of the mirror in the morning? Trump, Singer writes, appeared baffled. Hoping to uncover the man behind the actor’s mask, Singer tried a different tack:

“O.K., I guess I’m asking, do you consider yourself ideal company?”

“You really want to know what I consider ideal company?,” Trump replied. “A total piece of ass.”

I might have phrased Singer’s question this way: Who are you, Mr. Trump, when you are alone? Singer never got an answer, leaving him to conclude that the real-estate mogul who would become a reality-TV star and, after that, a leading candidate for president of the United States had managed to achieve something remarkable: “an existence unmolested by the rumbling of a soul.”

Is Singer’s assessment too harsh? Perhaps it is, in at least one sense. As brainy social animals, human beings evolved to be consummate actors whose survival and ability to reproduce depend on the quality of our performances. We enter the world prepared to perform roles and manage the impressions of others, with the ultimate evolutionary aim of getting along and getting ahead in the social groups that define who we are.

More than even Ronald Reagan, Trump seems supremely cognizant of the fact that he is always acting. He moves through life like a man who knows he is always being observed. If all human beings are, by their very nature, social actors, then Donald Trump seems to be more so—superhuman, in this one primal sense.

Wasn't one humdrum Replicant actor in the Oval Office back in the 1980s enough for at least the next two centuries ... ?
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Narcissism, disagreeableness, grandiosity—a psychologist investigates how Trump’s extraordinary personality might shape his possible presidency

Additional Information:

Inside the mind of Donald Trump
CBC - The Current
Host Anna Maria Tremonti interviews Dan McAdams and Aaron James
June 02, 2016
Transcript:
June 2, 2016 full episode transcript - Home | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio
Dan McAdams: Department of Psychology - Northwestern University
https://www.amazon.ca/Assholes-Theory-Aaron-James/dp/0385535651
(Flash Audio)
Full Episode for June 2, 2016 - The Current - Home | The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti | CBC Radio
 
PIECE OF ASS

Additional Information: The Current with Anna Maria Tremonti

From the AMT interview:
Dan McAdams: I was pretty sure I could find something beyond the surface, that I could find some interesting, deep-seated motivations, some goals, a life narrative. It was very hard to do.

Because there is nothing there, since childhood - other than a desire to be loved/respected/taken seriously because he was "Number 1". (Were his parents to blame for this superlative presumption on his part? Who knows?)

Moreover, his remark about a "piece of ass" indicates the limited relationship he has as regards not only women, but the entire world that surrounds him. This guy is really 'n truly sick.

The point being is that the person in question has a serious psychological defect that could alter his behaviour, particularly in a moment of stress. Closing a billion-dollar deal is nothing like the Chinese pointing nuclear-tipped missiles at San Francisco.

Moreover, if the man is so self-centered that he cannot believe there is a world beyond himself, he will measure all instances in reference to himself. Not the nation, but himself.

So, forget about any consideration whatsoever for the destinies of middle-class families. His is NOT a middle-class family - not by any stretch of the imagination. Because he has never been one. The guy inherited $40M from his father, who likely imbued him with the challenge that he must always be "Numéro Uno"!

MY POINT?

What most Americans who admire him may think is that "We should be like him! We can be like him! He knows our aspirations!"

Bollocks to that notion, unless you've got a parent who's going to leave you $40M in his/her will.

And, if everybody was indeed "like him" - a caffé-latte would cost $10K ...
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... but Hillary is intolerable.

Why?

You seem to be confusing personality with objectives. I would prefer Bernie as well, but the US in not (yet) a Social Democracy. Bernie has broken the ice on the question - so we must be grateful to him.

Now it is up to the grassroots to complete the job. The Congressional Progressive Caucus is barely 15% of the HofR. You can't win political battles at that level. Were the CPC 30%, people would listen.

Were it 50%, laws would be passed. Were it a majority of 60%, political miracles could happen.

So, let's get out of the "business of personalities". It's a political war of sorts, about political objectives and how to obtain them. And it needs a damn fine general. But, as the Replicants did to Obama - without a Dem majority in the HofR - they will push any Dem PotUS into a corner and hem him/her in.

A PotUS just cannot do it alone ...
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Why?

You seem to be confusing personality with objectives. I would prefer Bernie as well, but the US in not (yet) a Social Democracy. Bernie has broken the ice on the question - so we must be grateful to him.

Now it is up to the grassroots to complete the job. The Congressional Progressive Caucus is barely 15% of the HofR. You can't win political battles at that level. Were the CPC 30%, people would listen.

Were it 50%, laws would be passed. Were it a majority of 60%, political miracles could happen.

So, let's get out of the "business of personalities". It's a political war of sorts, about political objectives and how to obtain them. And it needs a damn fine general. But, as the Replicants did to Obama - without a Dem majority in the HofR - they will push any Dem PotUS into a corner and hem him/her in.

A PotUS just cannot do it alone ...
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Hillary has been the leader of the charge in Ukraine, Libya and Syria. Our policies in each of these Nations is detestable. The Clintons picked up the CIA taint in Arkansas with the Bush Cocaine/gun running deals. AFDC to launder the monies. Benghazi was about sending arms from Libya armories to Turkey to be delivered to Terrorists in Syria. Another CIA operation.
 
Hillary has been the leader of the charge in Ukraine, Libya and Syria. Our policies in each of these Nations is detestable. The Clintons picked up the CIA taint in Arkansas with the Bush Cocaine/gun running deals. AFDC to launder the monies. Benghazi was about sending arms from Libya armories to Turkey to be delivered to Terrorists in Syria. Another CIA operation.

You are making insulting claims that have no basis in fact:
*The Ukraine was Putin provoking Obama, because he has an economy coming apart at the seams.
*Libya was a mess to begin with and a State Department head is NOT RESPONSIBLE for an attack on ramshackle diplomatic outpost in Benghazi smack-dab in the middle of a war-zone. And,
*If there is anybody responsible for Syria it is again Putin, who rearmed the Assad and gave air-cover to pursue the war.

Get your act together before making scurrilous accusations that are all over the board without any foundational base whatsoever ...
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You are making insulting claims that have no basis in fact:
*The Ukraine was Putin provoking Obama, because he has an economy coming apart at the seams.
*Libya was a mess to begin with and a State Department head is NOT RESPONSIBLE for an attack on ramshackle diplomatic outpost in Benghazi smack-dab in the middle of a war-zone. And,
*If there is anybody responsible for Syria it is again Putin, who rearmed the Assad and gave air-cover to pursue the war.

Get your act together before making scurrilous accusations that are all over the board without any foundational base whatsoever ...
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Libya was the jewel of Africa before we destabilized it. Free housing, free energy, free university education, water in the desert, and a real success story. Now it has chaos, mayhem, destruction and death for all.
The USA/CIA created the terrorists in Syria (moderate rebels, ISIS by any other name). We trained them, funded them and armed them to overthrow an elected leader of a free Nation. Assad is very popular in Syria and won't allow Western CORPORATIONS to run pipelines accross his Nation. That is what the war is about. The USA wants to control all energy and economic flow to keep control of the NWO scenario.
Clinton's under Secretary Nuland was at the Maidan passing out doughnuts. CIA/NED spent billions of dollars to destabilize Ukraine. It was a coup d'etat everywhere except in the USA Mass Media that regurgitated the Pentagon Narrative.
 
Libya was a mess to begin with and a State Department head is NOT RESPONSIBLE for an attack on ramshackle diplomatic outpost in Benghazi smack-dab in the middle of a war-zone.

If there is anybody responsible for Syria it is again Putin, who rearmed the Assad and gave air-cover to pursue the war.

I think you are wrong in both above mentioned incidents ....

Yes, there were protests in Libya, just like there were Occupy Protests in New York.

The U.S. got involved in Libya because Gadaffi was threatening to sell oil in other currencies and not the U.S. dollar. Gadaffi, was becoming to powerful in Africa as he was financially supporting many countries who were under the U.S. umbrella.

Syria was planned for many years. It is U.S. policy to break up countries within the Middle East so that they are too small to survive on their own without the U.S. at or on the throne of power.

"Six weeks later, I saw the same officer, and asked: “Why haven’t we attacked Iraq? Are we still going to attack Iraq?”
He said: “Sir, it’s worse than that. He said – he pulled up a piece of paper off his desk – he said: “I just got this memo from the Secretary of Defense’s office. It says we’re going to attack and destroy the governments in 7 countries in five years – we’re going to start with Iraq, and then we’re going to move to Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.”"

Clark said the aim of this plot was this: “They wanted us to destabilize the Middle East, turn it upside down, make it under our control.” He then recounted a conversation he had had ten years earlier with Paul Wolfowitz — back in 1991 — in which the then-number-3-Pentagon-official, after criticizing Bush 41 for not toppling Saddam, told Clark: “But one thing we did learn [from the Persian Gulf War] is that we can use our military in the region – in the Middle East – and the Soviets won’t stop us. And we’ve got about 5 or 10 years to clean up those old Soviet regimes – Syria, Iran [sic], Iraq – before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us.”
FORA TV
Commonwealth Club of California
San Francisco, CA
By Wesley Kanne Clark, Sr.
October 03, 2007
Wesley Clark: A Time to Lead - FORA.tv

I could supply you with additional information, but this thread is not about foreign policy.

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During the 2008 election, I recall reading quite a lot about Hillary's religion.

It was kind of scarios.

Perform a Google Search ....

Doug Coe + "Hillary Clinton"

I copied/saved dozens of articles from those earlier times, but many of the links are not available and I am not allowed to post anything of great length here in these forums. I could PM you with them if you would like.

Hillary's Prayer: Hillary Clinton's Religion and Politics
For 15 years, Hillary Clinton has been part of a secretive religious group that seeks to bring Jesus back to Capitol Hill. Is she triangulating—or living her faith?
By Kathryn Joyce and Jeff Sharlet
September 01, 2007
Hillary's Prayer: Hillary Clinton's Religion and Politics | Mother Jones

Meet 'The Family'
By Anthony Lapp
June 13, 2003
Meet 'The Family' | Alternet
 
Hillary has been the leader of the charge in Ukraine, Libya and Syria. Our policies in each of these Nations is detestable. Benghazi was about sending arms from Libya armories to Turkey to be delivered to Terrorists in Syria. Another CIA operation.

You are making insulting claims that have no basis in fact. Or, if so, you are not presenting the "facts".

That is:
*The Ukraine was Putin provoking Obama, because he has an economy coming apart at the seams, and he wanted to grab back the Crimea (which Russia will have to give up for any inevitable peace treaty).
*Libya was a mess since the beginning, and remains a mess today. A State Department head was never responsible for an attack on ramshackle diplomatic outpost in Benghazi smack-dab in the middle of a war-zone. And,
*If there is anybody responsible for Syria it is again Putin, who rearmed Assad and gave air-cover to pursue the war. Assad has since been bombing innocent civilians.

Get your act together before making scurrilous accusations that are all over the board without any foundational base in fact whatsoever ...
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You are making insulting claims that have no basis in fact. Or, if so, you are not presenting the "facts".

That is:
*The Ukraine was Putin provoking Obama, because he has an economy coming apart at the seams, and he wanted to grab back the Crimea (which Russia will have to give up for any inevitable peace treaty).
*Libya was a mess since the beginning, and remains a mess today. A State Department head was never responsible for an attack on ramshackle diplomatic outpost in Benghazi smack-dab in the middle of a war-zone. And,
*If there is anybody responsible for Syria it is again Putin, who rearmed Assad and gave air-cover to pursue the war. Assad has since been bombing innocent civilians.

Get your act together before making scurrilous accusations that are all over the board without any foundational base in fact whatsoever ...
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The claims are insulting and based upon facts.
 
... The same feeling perplexed Mark Singer in the late 1990s when he was working on a profile of Trump for The New Yorker. Singer wondered what went through his mind when he was not playing the public role of Donald Trump. What are you thinking about, Singer asked him, when you are shaving in front of the mirror in the morning? Trump, Singer writes, appeared baffled. Hoping to uncover the man behind the actor’s mask, Singer tried a different tack:

“O.K., I guess I’m asking, do you consider yourself ideal company?”

“You really want to know what I consider ideal company?,” Trump replied. “A total piece of ass.” ...

while not a PC response, i don't see the illegitimacy of his answer. to him, a sexy woman is ideal company. as a straight guy, i don't see what is wrong with that

as to the question, seeking to find the person behind the persona, the presumption is that what you see is something other than what is actually there. and in tRump's case i do believe the donald we see on stage is the same donald around his closest friends and family. which is why he would be baffled at the author's question wondering who is the 'real' tRump. what we see is the 'real' tRump
 
I think you are wrong in both above mentioned incidents ....

Looking at the facts, it is difficult to get it wrong. The people were fed-up with his antics.

He proclaimed that the "masses must rule" the nation. But if any dissident started agitating they would "suddenly disappear". The Libyans finally got tired of him and, all by themselves, they started a revolution. The country literally self-imploded, as different regions formed their own armies and declared independence from Qaddafi's state.

The reason the country is still in a mess is because these separate armies fought separate wars, and subsequently there was no common formation of an elected government that lasted. (Not to mention that in the subsequent chaos, ISIS poured in an small army of fighters who have since taken control of Benghazi.)

Syria was planned for many years. It is U.S. policy to break up countries within the Middle East so that they are too small to survive on their own without the U.S. at or on the throne of power.

Wow, what a fertile mind for PURE FICTION.

Syria is a mixture of two muslim religious factions - the Shiites and the Sunnites (and some Kurds). The majority are Sunnite, the minority Shiites. Hafez al-Asad - father of the current leader of Syria, Bashir - took power in a military coup. The al-Asad family are Alawites, a subset of the Shiite religous faction. Bashir is continuing to bomb cities held by Sunnites, and so far the Sunnite dead from this armed-conflict are estimated at 70,000 men, women and children.

Bashir has conducted a relentless war to protect the interests of his "tribe", the Alawites. They are in a tiny region (see map here) that has a port-city, where Russia has anchored its Mediterranean Fleet. Which is the reason that Russia supports Assad, because without the port at Latakia, Russia would have no Mediterranean naval presence.

The US has never had any influence whatsoever in Syria, since the al-Asad family (originally of the Ba'athist Socialist Party) were aligned with first the Soviet Union and then with Russia. Some people think that Bashir al-Asad's wife and kids are living presently in Moscow.

Syria's oil-fields are in the east of the country, close to the Iraqi border. They are/were the principal source of income of ISIS, which took control of them 4 years ago. The only American involvement in the Syrian war are some ex-US army soldiers fighting with the Kurdish Pesh-Merga who have stopped all oil deliveries from the field (north into Turkey). They will likely also try to surround the town of Raqqa (ISIS HQ) to starve ISIS into surrender.

'Nuff said about this "war" that is more complex than a Gordian Knot ... ?
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I read the link in its' entirety and did not draw any particularly negative conclusions. I'm a Green and a Sanders man, but Hillary is intolerable.

Well, since you are a self-identifying 'conservative', it's hardly surprising that Trump is your boy.
 
Not nearly good enough a response.

Try harder ...

The poster you are in discussion with is essentially a one trick pony. You won't get anything else from him.
 
Looking at the facts, it is difficult to get it wrong. The people were fed-up with his antics.

He proclaimed that the "masses must rule" the nation. But if any dissident started agitating they would "suddenly disappear". The Libyans finally got tired of him and, all by themselves, they started a revolution. The country literally self-imploded, as different regions formed their own armies and declared independence from Qaddafi's state.

The reason the country is still in a mess is because these separate armies fought separate wars, and subsequently there was no common formation of an elected government that lasted. (Not to mention that in the subsequent chaos, ISIS poured in an small army of fighters who have since taken control of Benghazi.)



Wow, what a fertile mind for PURE FICTION.

Syria is a mixture of two muslim religious factions - the Shiites and the Sunnites (and some Kurds). The majority are Sunnite, the minority Shiites. Hafez al-Asad - father of the current leader of Syria, Bashir - took power in a military coup. The al-Asad family are Alawites, a subset of the Shiite religous faction. Bashir is continuing to bomb cities held by Sunnites, and so far the Sunnite dead from this armed-conflict are estimated at 70,000 men, women and children.

Bashir has conducted a relentless war to protect the interests of his "tribe", the Alawites. They are in a tiny region (see map here) that has a port-city, where Russia has anchored its Mediterranean Fleet. Which is the reason that Russia supports Assad, because without the port at Latakia, Russia would have no Mediterranean naval presence.

The US has never had any influence whatsoever in Syria, since the al-Asad family (originally of the Ba'athist Socialist Party) were aligned with first the Soviet Union and then with Russia. Some people think that Bashir al-Asad's wife and kids are living presently in Moscow.

Syria's oil-fields are in the east of the country, close to the Iraqi border. They are/were the principal source of income of ISIS, which took control of them 4 years ago. The only American involvement in the Syrian war are some ex-US army soldiers fighting with the Kurdish Pesh-Merga who have stopped all oil deliveries from the field (north into Turkey). They will likely also try to surround the town of Raqqa (ISIS HQ) to starve ISIS into surrender.

'Nuff said about this "war" that is more complex than a Gordian Knot ... ?
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Way too reasoned, rational, and intelligent for that particular poster to grasp. I'd suggest a simple, catchy slogan that could fit on a cardboard sign. After all, it's worked for Donald 'Make America Great Again!' Trump.
 
Libya was the jewel of Africa before we destabilized it. Free housing, free energy, free university education, water in the desert, and a real success story.


For your edification as regards Khadaffi: History of Libya, Opposition, coups and revolts

Excerpt:
Gaddafi employed his network of diplomats and recruits to assassinate dozens of his critics around the world. Amnesty International listed at least twenty-five assassinations between 1980 and 1987

"It is the Libyan people's responsibility to liquidate such scums who are distorting Libya's image abroad".
— Gaddafi talking about exiles in 1982.

In the 1990s, Gaddafi's rule was threatened by militant Islamism. In October 1993, there was an unsuccessful assassination attempt on Gaddafi by elements of the Libyan army. In response, Gaddafi used repressive measures, using his personal Revolutionary Guard Corps to crush riots and Islamist activism during the 1990s.

Not the kind of guy you'd want to introduce him to your mother, is he ... ?
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Way too reasoned, rational, and intelligent for that particular poster to grasp. I'd suggest a simple, catchy slogan that could fit on a cardboard sign. After all, it's worked for Donald 'Make America Great Again!' Trump.

It "sells".

As in the Marketing Strategy, KISS (Keep it simple to sell, which works well with simpletons ... ;^)
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Wow, what a fertile mind for PURE FICTION.

The U.S. and it's ally Israel in the Middle East both operate the identical way.

They both pretend that they just innocently sit around, while sipping Coca Cola and tending their sheep, and somehow wars and mayhem take place which totally benefit both Israel and the U.S. and they claim it is by fluke. The fact that after 100 years or more of wars that the U.S. has managed to own everything in the Middle East is just God's Plan I guess.

They have been at it since 1916.
Countdown to the Destruction in Syria? Timeline of US and Allied Interventions in Syria (1916-2016) | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

“In the Perle-Feith-Wurmser strategy, Israel ’s enemy remains Syria , but the road to Damascus runs through Baghdad .”

Coping with Crumbling States:
A Western and Israeli Balance of Power Strategy for the Levant
"The residual unity of the nation is an illusion projected by the extreme repression of the state." After Saddam, Iraq would "be ripped apart by the politics of warlords, tribes, clans, sects, and key families," he wrote. "Underneath facades of unity enforced by state repression, [Iraq's] politics is defined primarily by tribalism, sectarianism, and gang/clan-like competition." Yet Wurmser explicitly urged the United States and Israel to "expedite" such a collapse. "The issue here is whether the West and Israel can construct a strategy for limiting and expediting the chaotic collapse that will ensue in order to move on to the task of creating a better circumstance."
By David Wurmser
December 1996
(PDF Document)
http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/1996_12_Wurmser_Crumbling_Iraq.pdf

Western firms plan to cash in on Syria’s oil and gas ‘frontier’
By Nafeez Ahmed
December 01, 2015
https://www.medium.com/insurge-inte...-on-syria-s-oil-and-gas-frontier-6c5fa4a72a92

Syria, Turkey, Israel and the Greater Middle East Energy War
By F. William Engdahl
October 11, 2012
Syria, Turkey, Israel and the Greater Middle East Energy War | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

The New Mediterranean Oil and Gas Bonanza
By F. William Engdahl
January 27, 2013
The New Mediterranean Oil and Gas Bonanza | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

The Wars in the Middle East and North Africa Are NOT Just About Oil … They’re Also About GAS
October 09, 2012
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/1...middle-east-and-north-africa-really-about-oil

Syria: NATO sets its sights on gas pipeline
It is as a geographer that Manlio Dinucci scrutinizes the war in Syria: the deployment of NATO forces, the ad hoc coalition that the Alliance put together and, especially, the strategic motive. What is really at stake in this conflict is not regime change, but shutting down the Mediterranean outlet for Iranian gas and controlling Syria’s gas reserves.
By Manlio Dinucci
October 13, 2012
http://www.voltairenet.org/article176254.html

Mystery Sponsor Of Weapons And Money To Syrian Mercenary "Rebels" Revealed
The discovery in 2009 of a new gas field near Israel, Lebanon, Cyprus, and Syria opened new possibilities to bypass the Saudi Barrier and to secure a new source of income. Pipelines are in place already in Turkey to receive the gas. Only Al-Assad is in the way.
Qatar along with the Turks would like to remove Al-Assad and install the Syrian chapter of the Moslem Brotherhood. It is the best organized political movement in the chaotic society and can block Saudi Arabia’s efforts to install a more fanatical Wahhabi based regime. Once the Brotherhood is in power, the Emir’s broad connections with Brotherhood groups throughout the region should make it easy for him to find a friendly ear and an open hand in Damascus.
A control centre has been established in the Turkish city of Adana near the Syrian border to direct the rebels against Al-Assad. Saudi Deputy Foreign Minister Prince Abdulaziz bin Abdullah al-Saud asked to have the Turks establish a joint Turkish, Saudi, Qatari operations center. “The Turks liked the idea of having the base in Adana so that they could supervise its operations” a source in the Gulf told Reuters.
The fighting is likely to continue for many more months, but Qatar is in for the long term. At the end, there will be contracts for the massive reconstruction and there will be the development of the gas fields. In any case, Al-Assad must go. There is nothing personal; it is strictly business to preserve the future tranquility and well-being of Qatar."
By Tyler Durden
May 16, 2013
http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/86e3f28e-be3a-11e2-bb35-00144feab7de.html

Syria: Ultimate Pipelineistan War
By Pepe Escobar
December 07, 2015
http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/12/07/syria-ultimate-pipelineistan-war.html

Israel-Oil-USBasesProtectingOilPipelineForIsrael-Syria-Iraq-MapMay2016.jpg


Calm
 
The poster you are in discussion with is essentially a one trick pony. You won't get anything else from him.

Isn't that downright strange how the truth keeps repeating itself. Those that don't seek, don't know..
 
Isn't that downright strange how the truth keeps repeating itself. Those that don't seek, don't know..

And those who don't know content themselves by spewing Leftist bull**** and pretending it's profound.
 
ARYANS

They both pretend that they just innocently sit around, while sipping Coca Cola and tending their sheep, and somehow wars and mayhem take place which totally benefit both Israel and the U.S. and they claim it is by fluke. The fact that after 100 years or more of wars that the U.S. has managed to own everything in the Middle East is just God's Plan I guess.

Obama and Netanyahu hate one another. It is not a question of "dislike", but more pure. Hatred.

Understandable, Netanyahu is just the kind-guy that the Israelis want to "defend their interests". Which is quite simple: Where the hell do you put a growing population, including thousands of Jews entering annually from Europe. (Where they are ISIS targets.)

Israel is clearly illegal in occupying the West Bank. The territory belongs to the Palestinians since the the 1950s. Ditto the Gaza Strip, which Israel returned to the Palestinians. That's more than half-a-century. And what the Israelis did in the Gaza Strip during their last intervention (2014) is qualified as "genocide", since it targeted largely the civilian population.. The UN says at least 2,104 Palestinian died, including 1,462 civilians, of whom 495 were children and 253 women.

Israel has no business building and occupying properties on the West Bank. Sooner or later, they will have to give those occupied towns back to the Palestinians - who have a right to live there that dates back long-before the Israelis returned from Europe to build their Jewish State.

It is incomprehensible that the Israelis do not understand the fundamental human-rights of the native Palestinians. (Besides, there is a very large manpower force available for Israeli companies, which are in dire need of them.) There are some very good reasons for the two-peoples to cooperate and benefit from (separate but equal) market-economies.

The US foreign-policy, though pro-Israeli, is not overboard, unconditional, unlimited. (Which is why Israel is developing its own military drones, for instance.) Of course, if the Dunderhead gets elected, all that could change. He hates Muslims out of hand. Regardless of where they are, where they come from, where they're going. (They aren't Aryan like him.)

MY POINT

War is good for business - invest your son/daughter. After Vietnam, we should have learned our lesson from such an idiot-policy. But the numb-skulls following the Dunderhead are of a post-Vietnam generation. So, they will make all the same mistakes as did their parents.

In their support of the Dunderhead, that fact is already patently obvious ...
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