The 2026 bill for the Ukraine war is already in the mail

anatta · May 31, 2025

The 2026 bill for the Ukraine war is already in the mail

With talks stalled, Zelensky says he needs more money for next year

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At the G7 Finance and Central Bank governors’ meeting in Banff on May 21, Ukraine’s Finance Minister Sergii Marchenko sought financial support for 2026, “including the provision of support to the Ukrainian army through its integration into the European security system,” according to reports.

Ukraine cannot keep fighting into 2026 without a significant injection of European money. Even if the war were to stop tomorrow, Ukraine would still face a huge funding black hole. And that prolonging the war simply extends Ukraine’s indebtedness and delinquency, nudging it every closer towards the status of a failed state.

The Ukrainian side pointed out two assumptions that underpin their request — first, that funding Ukraine’s military supports macro-financial stability in that country. That is untrue. By far the leading cause of the increased financial distress of Ukraine is its vast and unsustainable prosecution of a war that it cannot win. Ending the war would allow for immediate reductions to be made to military spending, which accounts for 65% of total government expenditure.

Second, that paying for Ukraine’s military is keeping Europe safer. It isn’t. The best route to European security would be to end the war tomorrow. The risk of escalation only grows for the longer the war continues and President Zelensky resorts to increasingly desperate tactics as the battlefield realities turn against him.

This latest request for money is a clear signal that Zelensky is not serious about U.S. demands for peace, and would prefer to continue the fight, drawing directly upon European funds.

Peter · May 31, 2025

Or maybe Ukraine aren't ready to surrender to Russia?
There is only one way this war ends and that's with Russia pissing off out of Ukraine and promising to never invade again.

j brown's body · May 31, 2025

Russia is struggling. Now is the time to go in for the kill. Freedom isn't free, but its worth paying for.

Callen · May 31, 2025

Much more likely a recognition that Putin will not stop and Trump can't make him.

soap box · May 31, 2025

anatta said:
The 2026 bill for the Ukraine war is already in the mail

With talks stalled, Zelensky says he needs more money for next year

responsiblestatecraft.org

At the G7 Finance and Central Bank governors’ meeting in Banff on May 21, Ukraine’s Finance Minister Sergii Marchenko sought financial support for 2026, “including the provision of support to the Ukrainian army through its integration into the European security system,” according to reports.

Ukraine cannot keep fighting into 2026 without a significant injection of European money. Even if the war were to stop tomorrow, Ukraine would still face a huge funding black hole. And that prolonging the war simply extends Ukraine’s indebtedness and delinquency, nudging it every closer towards the status of a failed state.

The Ukrainian side pointed out two assumptions that underpin their request — first, that funding Ukraine’s military supports macro-financial stability in that country. That is untrue. By far the leading cause of the increased financial distress of Ukraine is its vast and unsustainable prosecution of a war that it cannot win. Ending the war would allow for immediate reductions to be made to military spending, which accounts for 65% of total government expenditure.

Second, that paying for Ukraine’s military is keeping Europe safer. It isn’t. The best route to European security would be to end the war tomorrow. The risk of escalation only grows for the longer the war continues and President Zelensky resorts to increasingly desperate tactics as the battlefield realities turn against him.

This latest request for money is a clear signal that Zelensky is not serious about U.S. demands for peace, and would prefer to continue the fight, drawing directly upon European funds.

There's a false premise in your post. Zelensky cannot stop this was war unless it's a complete surrender of the whole of Ukraine. That would reward Putin and motivate him to invade elsewhere next. Europe doesn't want that. Trump obviously hasn't been able to influence much at all.

The only person on this planet that can stop this war is the same man who started it.

Isidore · May 31, 2025

Once all the money starts rolling in from the U.S. Raw Earth deal they'll be able to increase their military spending./s

Juin · May 31, 2025

soap box said:
There's a false premise in your post. Zelensky cannot stop this was war unless it's a complete surrender of the whole of Ukraine.

I do not see the basis for your thesis either. Ukraine still has an Army, and that Army is far from defeat.

soap box said:
That would reward Putin and motivate him to invade elsewhere next. Europe doesn't want that. Trump obviously hasn't been able to influence much at all.

Reward how??? In war, all wars, you get only what arms can deliver. Russia or Ukraine, in the end, will get only what their Armies can seize. Most likely is Russia ends up more or less where its Armies are. Reward is a strage suggestion. No one gets to reward anything

soap box said:
The only person on this planet that can stop this war is the same man who started it.

The war can end in many ways

Juin · May 31, 2025

Peter said:
Or maybe Ukraine aren't ready to surrender to Russia?

You mean the Eu. War takes money. Lots of money. Hundreds of billions of dollars so far in this case. Ukraine long ran out of that kind of money back in 2022. The Eu wallet is what keeps Ukraine fighting. So the question of whether Ukraine is ready to surrender is actually more a question of the state of Eu's wallet

Peter said:
There is only one way this war ends and that's with Russia pissing off out of Ukraine and promising to never invade again.

There are tons of conceivable ways the war end

Lord of Planar · May 31, 2025

anatta said:
The 2026 bill for the Ukraine war is already in the mail

With talks stalled, Zelensky says he needs more money for next year

responsiblestatecraft.org

At the G7 Finance and Central Bank governors’ meeting in Banff on May 21, Ukraine’s Finance Minister Sergii Marchenko sought financial support for 2026, “including the provision of support to the Ukrainian army through its integration into the European security system,” according to reports.

Ukraine cannot keep fighting into 2026 without a significant injection of European money. Even if the war were to stop tomorrow, Ukraine would still face a huge funding black hole. And that prolonging the war simply extends Ukraine’s indebtedness and delinquency, nudging it every closer towards the status of a failed state.

The Ukrainian side pointed out two assumptions that underpin their request — first, that funding Ukraine’s military supports macro-financial stability in that country. That is untrue. By far the leading cause of the increased financial distress of Ukraine is its vast and unsustainable prosecution of a war that it cannot win. Ending the war would allow for immediate reductions to be made to military spending, which accounts for 65% of total government expenditure.

Second, that paying for Ukraine’s military is keeping Europe safer. It isn’t. The best route to European security would be to end the war tomorrow. The risk of escalation only grows for the longer the war continues and President Zelensky resorts to increasingly desperate tactics as the battlefield realities turn against him.

This latest request for money is a clear signal that Zelensky is not serious about U.S. demands for peace, and would prefer to continue the fight, drawing directly upon European funds.

Like I stated long ago. This will lead to WWIII.

Lord of Planar · May 31, 2025

j brown's body said:
Russia is struggling. Now is the time to go in for the kill. Freedom isn't free, but its worth paying for.

Why are you a warmonger?

Lord of Planar · May 31, 2025

Callen said:
Much more likely a recognition that Putin will not stop and Trump can't make him.

We need to stand clear of this.

Peter · May 31, 2025

Juin said:
You mean the Eu. War takes money. Lots of money. Hundreds of billions of dollars so far in this case. Ukraine long ran out of that kind of money back in 2022. The Eu wallet is what keeps Ukraine fighting. So the question of whether Ukraine is ready to surrender is actually more a question of the state of Eu's wallet

There are tons of conceivable ways the war end

Yes, the EU and UK don't want to let Russia win a war of aggressive land grabbing on the EU border.
What a crazy idea that is.

Lord of Planar · May 31, 2025

soap box said:
There's a false premise in your post. Zelensky cannot stop this was war unless it's a complete surrender of the whole of Ukraine. That would reward Putin and motivate him to invade elsewhere next. Europe doesn't want that. Trump obviously hasn't been able to influence much at all.

The only person on this planet that can stop this war is the same man who started it.

That's what happens when a coup happens like it did in 2014. A large segment of the population rebelled. This gave Russia the perfect opportunity to stop NATO expansion to their border.

You cannot blame Russia for their actions, defying the EU and NATO expansion. Any blame is out of thoughtless hate.

Peter · May 31, 2025

Lord of Planar said:
Like I stated long ago. This will lead to WWIII.

No, it won't.
Putin knows starting WW3 would be the end of his entire country.

Lord of Planar · May 31, 2025

Juin said:
You mean the Eu. War takes money. Lots of money. Hundreds of billions of dollars so far in this case. Ukraine long ran out of that kind of money back in 2022. The Eu wallet is what keeps Ukraine fighting. So the question of whether Ukraine is ready to surrender is actually more a question of the state of Eu's wallet

There are tons of conceivable ways the war end

All they needed to surrender a year ago was the Providences that rebelled. Now the whole country will be lost, and if the EU or NATO helps, WWIII is imminent.

Peter · May 31, 2025

Lord of Planar said:
That's what happens when a coup happens like it did in 2014. A large segment of the population rebelled. This gave Russia the perfect opportunity to stop NATO expansion to their border.

You cannot blame Russia for their actions, defying the EU and NATO expansion. Any blame is out of thoughtless hate.

You can't blame Russia for invading Ukraine?
What sort of twisted logic is this?

Lord of Planar · May 31, 2025

Peter said:
You can't blame Russia for invading Ukraine?
What sort of twisted logic is this?

They are protecting their interests against the encroachment.

Peter · May 31, 2025

Lord of Planar said:
They are protecting their interests against the encroachment.

Oh, so Russia gets to invade whoever they like now if they can claim it's to protect their interests?
Does any other country get this special power or just Russia?

Callen · May 31, 2025

Lord of Planar said:
They are protecting their interests against the encroachment.

Wow....just wow.

Lord of Planar · May 31, 2025

Peter said:
Oh, so Russia gets to invade whoever they like now if they can claim it's to protect their interests?
Does any other country get this special power or just Russia?

If you knew the history, you would know they did not go in until the rebellion already started. In Ukraine, it was effectively a civil war. Ethnic Ukrainian against ethnic Russians. Russia went in to help the ethnic Russians.

Of course, it helped their interests that the wanted the base in Crimea.

The illegal ousting of the sitting president in 2014, gave them the opportunity and excuse to secure their statistic interests.

Lord of Planar · May 31, 2025

Callen said:
Wow....just wow.

Deny the facts, and you will never be enlightened to the facts.

Isidore · May 31, 2025

Lord of Planar said:
Like I stated long ago. This will lead to WWIII.

Don't worry, Trump's got this...

"I am the only candidate who can make this promise to you: I will prevent World War III !!!" – DJT

"I am the Peace President, and only I will stop World War III!" – DJT

Lord of Planar · May 31, 2025

Isidore said:
Don't worry, Trump's got this...

"I am the only candidate who can make this promise to you: I will prevent World War III !!!" – DJT

"I am the Peace President, and only I will stop World War III!" – DJT

And you believe anything a politician says?

Wow...

anatta · May 31, 2025

soap box said:
There's a false premise in your post. Zelensky cannot stop this was war unless it's a complete surrender of the whole of Ukraine.

That is not a Russian demand or in the cards
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Russia's primary territorial demands in Ukraine involve the four regions it illegally annexed in 2022: Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson, according to the Institute for the Study of War. Additionally, Russia demands Ukraine recognize Crimea as Russian territory and acknowledge the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk. Putin has also reportedly maintained a demand for Ukraine to cede all of these four oblasts, even though Russia doesn't fully occupy them

soap box said:
That would reward Putin and motivate him to invade elsewhere next. Europe doesn't want that. Trump obviously hasn't been able to influence much at all.

The only person on this planet that can stop this war is the same man who started it.

No . Neither Russia nor Ukraine can achieve all their territorial goals.. the war ends when both feel that warring cannot improve their positions

Peter · May 31, 2025

Lord of Planar said:
If you knew the history, you would know they did not go in until the rebellion already started. In Ukraine, it was effectively a civil war. Ethnic Ukrainian against ethnic Russians. Russia went in to help the ethnic Russians.

Of course, it helped their interests that the wanted the base in Crimea.

The illegal ousting of the sitting president in 2014, gave them the opportunity and excuse to secure their statistic interests.

Why exactly are you defending a country that's involved in an invasion in Europe?

What gives Russia the right to invade after an internal matter in a foreign country?
Can the EU and UK launch an invasion of the US if we decide we don't like the results of your next elections?

The 2026 bill for the Ukraine war is already in the mail

anatta