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The 2020 San Francisco exodus is real, and historic, report shows

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The 2020 San Francisco exodus is real, and historic, report shows - SFGate

A new report confirms what many have been talking about for weeks: There is an exodus out of San Francisco, and the numbers are staggering.

Online real estate company Zillow released new statistics shining a stark light on the issue this week. Their "2020 Urban-Suburban Market Report" reveals that inventory has risen a whopping 96% year-on-year, as empty homes in the city flood the market like nowhere else in America.

Failed policies of the Democratic Party have compounded year-over-year to leave a once great city in ruins.
 
San Francisco is one of the best places to live in the world. When I visited it two years ago, I had a great time in the ruins.
 
San Francisco is one of the best places to live in the world. When I visited it two years ago, I had a great time in the ruins.

That's a great story.
 
And settling in Texas, thereby turning the Lone Star State blue. :2wave:

...and failure will follow. Everything the Democrat Party touches, dies. a slow, painful, very public death.

Just look at what they're fleeing. And some actually cheer it on. #sad #badpolicy
 
A friend grew up in Oakland and lived in SF but it was too expensive for him and his wife to live even when they were both tech geeks with degrees, there so they moved to Portland.

SF is run by greedy libertarians but it is a liberal social veneer over it.

Yeah, they're called Democrats.
 
Yup. Those Californicaters mentioned in this article? They've moved to Colorado and raped the **** outta the state. Mountain passes are overcrowded daily with disrespectful, dumb Calidiots who bother the wildlife (and pay the mortal price for it), destroy the nature, and fall off cliffs to their deaths for their stupid selfies. Not to mention the insane amount of ****ty Lib drivers (DUIs, hit and runs, dumb bikers, passive aggressive POSs).
 
Yup. Those Californicaters mentioned in this article? They've moved to Colorado and raped the **** outta the state. Mountain passes are overcrowded daily with disrespectful, dumb Calidiots who bother the wildlife (and pay the mortal price for it), destroy the nature, and fall off cliffs to their deaths for their stupid selfies. Not to mention the insane amount of ****ty Lib drivers (DUIs, hit and runs, dumb bikers, passive aggressive POSs).

That is why you should have moved to Alaska. ;)

Timothy Treadwell was a San Francisco resident who visited Alaska 12 times to harass the bears and the wildlife. His 13th visit was the charm, as he set up his camp on a game trail and promptly got himself and his girlfriend eaten by the very bears he claimed to love.

Those who have lived in rural areas for several years will have an easier time and understand the danger better, but California city critters in the wilds of Alaska is just asking for a Darwin Award. I have never met a more stupid group of people. Alaska has a way of weeding out the terminally stupid.
 
The 2020 San Francisco exodus is real, and historic, report shows - SFGate



Failed policies of the Democratic Party have compounded year-over-year to leave a once great city in ruins.
Hopefully those ********ers stay out of red states and just move to other blue states. Because those ********ers will just bring their blue state stupidity along with them where ever they move to. Just look at Texas for example, they are bringing their liberal stupidity with them and turning the state blue.Pretty soon Austin will become a ****hole like SanFransicko.
 
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Hopefully those ********ers stay out of red states and just move to other blue states. Because those ********ers will just bring their blue state stupidity along with them where ever they move to. Just look at Texas for example, they are bringing their liberal stupidity with them and turning the state blue.Pretty soon Austin will become a ****hole like SanFransicko.

Those EVIL blue states support the deadbeat red states. But you already knew that.
 
Those EVIL blue states support the deadbeat red states. But you already knew that.

That justifies ********ers who are sick of their blue state turning into a ****hole because of their lib-tard nonsense and fleeing to other states to make them ****holes as well?
 
That justifies ********ers who are sick of their blue state turning into a ****hole because of their lib-tard nonsense and fleeing to other states to make them ****holes as well?

No more OAN for you
 
The 2020 San Francisco exodus is real, and historic, report shows - SFGate



Failed policies of the Democratic Party have compounded year-over-year to leave a once great city in ruins.
Around 1960 I was in the Navy at the south end of the bay at Moffett Field. San Francisco was a beautiful up scale city. If we went there on liberty, we dressed up a little better as not to stand out.

Now thanks to stupid democrats running the city, no wonder people are leaving. Just look at the filth and trash. Who would even want to take their families there for a visit. It would seem that the people that live their would do something to clean up the city so they dont lose hundreds of thousands of dollars on the property values.
 
A two bedroom house that sold for $70,000 back in the 1950's is now selling for over a million dollars. That just sounds crazy.

I wouldn't count San Francisco out just yet.
But with filth in the streets those values will be dropping dramatically.
 
Those EVIL blue states support the deadbeat red states. But you already knew that.

Uh--------------Nebr and other central states are pay as you go. Ill run by democrats forever is BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in the hole. Now they want money from the rich red states to pay off their idiot spendthrift ways. What is the state of Calif finances, again run by democrats????
 
...and failure will follow. Everything the Democrat Party touches, dies. a slow, painful, very public death.

Just look at what they're fleeing. And some actually cheer it on. #sad #badpolicy

I see it as a good thing. Too many liberals have concentrated their votes in California, thereby skewing the electoral college to Republicans. Supply and demand has made California untenable for mere mortals to afford a home, so naturally they go to poorer states or red states (often the same thing) so they can have a house of their own. Then they raise the standard of living and the desirability of the state to the point that mere mortals can't afford a home there any longer, and the cycle continues. And in the process, the electoral college is gradually rebalanced.

We're like the angels of progress
 
Uh--------------Nebr and other central states are pay as you go. Ill run by democrats forever is BILLIONS OF DOLLARS in the hole. Now they want money from the rich red states to pay off their idiot spendthrift ways. What is the state of Calif finances, again run by democrats????

Rich red states? What states are these? You're not referring to the states that are only solvent because blue states are paying for them, are you?
 
The 2020 San Francisco exodus is real, and historic, report shows - SFGate

Failed policies of the Democratic Party have compounded year-over-year to leave a once great city in ruins.
:lamo

That chart is INCREDIBLY misleading, because of the nature of percentages. The number of available homes in SF is so ridiculously low, that listing 1500 homes for sale increases inventory by "100%" or more. That is 1500 out of 385,000 housing units.

So no, there is no "massive exodus."

Back in the real world, ALL major cities in the US are seeing some people leaving for the suburbs, mostly because they don't have to physically report to an office 5+ days a week. Since remote work is not a regular thing, it's possible to live in areas that are not close to the office, with lower costs and/or more space. There is little doubt that will reverse when the pandemic eventually subsides. That goes double for the Bay Area, where suburbs near SF and Silicon Valley are insanely expensive, and commuting from further out chews up lots of time per day.

However, as your own source points out, suburbs and exurbs aren't actually seeing a huge surge. Maybe you should read the actual Zillow report. What a concept.

As to SF? Your perceptions of the problem are so biased, it's astounding. SF has always been an incredibly desirable place to live, in no small part because of the liberal attitudes of its residents. Then, multiple tech booms hit, and all those software engineers who were raking in big bucks wanted to live where the action was. This caused demand, and thus prices, to soar. The main policy that fed the resulting affordability crisis was that SF residents didn't want the kind of massively dense development that would be needed to meet the demand -- in no small part because doing so would decimate the character of the city, including low-profile residential neighborhoods.

As to homelessness in SF? That's always been an issue, and has as much to do with unaffordable housing and climate as anything else. The Bay Area has hardly been inviting to the homeless; e.g. there was a wave of laws against "aggressive panhandling" passed in the 90s and early 00s. Homeless encampments periodically get cleared out.

To put it another way: The "failures" of SF are almost entirely due to the mechanisms of capitalism, and in spite of some policies that are hostile to the homeless.

We should also remember that homelessness is hardly restricted to progressive areas. There are plenty of homeless suburbs and rural areas -- you just don't notice them, because they're not on the streets. Instead, they live in their cars in Walmart parking lots, or camp in areas where they're hard to see.

But, it is not surprisingly that you seize on and misrepresent these kinds of details to support your ideology. Heck, I bet you can't even explain what "policies" led to this alleged "failure" in the first place....
 
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