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The “Phony” Scandal That Just Won’t Go Away

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by Jim Emerson, staff writer
July 27th, 2013

In a speech before a group of low information acolytes Mr. Obama chastised Republicans for their “parade of distractions, political posturing and phony scandals”. The IRS, NSA, Fast and furious, press intimidation and that really, really pesky scandal that will not go away, the murder of four Americans in Benghazi. Mr. Obama, his Democrat toadies and especially Hillary Clinton don’t want the truth of the Benghazi affair to see the light of day. Before the dust could settle on the coffins of Ambassador Chris Stevens and the others killed on that day, the State Department had forced attack survivors to sign non-disclosure agreements. (1) People died in an event that Mr. Obama considers to be a “phony scandal.”

David Ubben

Fighting beside former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty, Diplomatic Security agent David Ubben was one of the wounded to survive the Benghazi attacks. Mr. Ubben risked his life in an attempt to save Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith only to discover that Smith had died of smoke inhalation at his post. Mr. Ubben was wounded in the firefight with pro al-Qaeda militants during which the SEALs lost their lives. In a rare moment of gutsy journalism that Holders’ DOJ couldn’t stop, Fox news found David Ubben recovering from his wounds at the Walter Reed Medical center. He has undergone several surgeries to save his leg. (2) To the families of the Benghazi victims, David Ubben is a hero.

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The "Phony" Scandal That Just Won

So what about Congress and the FBI? Why are they dragging their feet? They've made claims that the witnesses have been made unavailable by the White House. It's true, even the FBI has not interviewed the survivors.
 

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Benghazi was a CIA operation.
 

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Benghazi was a CIA operation.

So what you're saying is that Ambassador Steven was part of a CIA operation? I don't think so. No one has ever made that claim. We do know that the second facility was a CIA station not connected to the Consulate. The personnel there responded to the original attack in order to rescue Stevens and Smith. The second attack took place hours later causing the deaths of Doherty, Woods and the wounding of Ubben.
Can you prove that Stevens was involved in a CIA operation?
 

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. The personnel there responded to the original attack in order to rescue Stevens and Smith.

So you admit that the original " stand down order" spewed by the 'conservative entertainment complex' was a lie. Its a start.
 
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So you admit that the original " stand down order" spewed by the 'conservative entertainment complex' was a lie. Its a start.

What would be a start is for any liberal to admit that this isn't a phony scandal nor is the IRS scandal but both are examples of the total incompetence known as Obama
 

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So you admit that the original " stand down order" spewed by the 'conservative entertainment complex' was a lie. Its a start.

No! they were stopped at the Benghazi airport and told to wait.
 

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No! they were stopped at the Benghazi airport and told to wait.

that was actually the third stand down lie. The original stand down lies were that the Annex request for help was denied help twice. The third stand down lie, the one you are referring to now was fabricated to cover for the first two stand down lies.

the facts of the third stand down lie is that the Benghazi personnel already had local militia support and were on the way to the Benghazi airport before the plane left Tripoli. So not only did they not hold up the plane at Tripoli, the embassy would have had no protection if that team left. learn the facts before you post wolf.
 

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that was actually the third stand down lie. The original stand down lies were that the Annex request for help was denied help twice. The third stand down lie, the one you are referring to now was fabricated to cover for the first two stand down lies.

the facts of the third stand down lie is that the Benghazi personnel already had local militia support and were on the way to the Benghazi airport before the plane left Tripoli. So not only did they not hold up the plane at Tripoli, the embassy would have had no protection if that team left. learn the facts before you post wolf.

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9:40 p.m. (3:40 p.m. ET):Gunfire and an explosion are heard. A TOC agent sees dozens of armed people over security camera flowing through a pedestrian gate at the compound's main entrance. It is not clear how the gate was opened.

Around 12:30 a.m. Sept. 12, 2012, (6:30 p.m. ET): A six-man security team, including two Defense Dept. personnel, leave Embassy Tripoli for Benghazi.

1:30 a.m. (7:30 p.m. ET): The U.S. security team from Embassy Tripoli lands in Benghazi and learn that the ambassador is missing. They try to arrange for transportation into town, with the goal of locating Stevens.

4:07 a.m. (10:07 p.m. ET): Secretary Clinton issues a statement acknowledging the death of one State Dept. officer.


5:00 a.m. (11:00 p.m.): A second U.S. Predator drone arrives to relieve the first.

5:15 a.m. (11:15 p.m. ET): The U.S. Regional Security Office in Tripoli gets a phone call from an Arabic-speaking source who says a Westerner has been found in Benghazi and is perhaps at a hospital. It's believed to be Ambassador Stevens. Transfer to airport is arranged.

At around the same time, the additional security team finds transportation from the airport under the escort of the Libyan Shield, another local militia, but decides to head to the annex after learning that Stevens was almost certainly dead. Just after their arrival, the annex takes mortar fire, sustaining three direct hits. The precision of the attacks indicates a level of sophistication and coordination.

Former U.S. Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty are killed in the mortar assault, which lasts just 11 minutes before dissipating; a DS agent and annex security member are severely wounded.

After the mortar attack, about 30 Americans evacuate the annex and head to the airport, with the assistance of the Libyan security convoy.

Ambassador Stevens is confirmed dead later that morning, as Americans see his body at the airport

Benghazi timeline: How the attack unfolded - CBS News
 

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assuming your timeline is correct , where's the 'scandal' wolf? be clear and specific.
 

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Like every incompetent act of this administration, it isn't just the the act, it's been the coverup ever since. Ten months have gone by and from the start with lies about a vague video and spontaneous mob lies.

thank you for again proving that cons cant criticize President Obama in an honest or intelligent fashion. The "spontaneous reaction" to Cairo protest was in the very first draft of the CIA talking points (yes, talking points). The Cairo protest was about the movie. And the republican lies about a 'coverup' were debunked when President Obama released the WH emails to the public. I say public because republicans already had the emails.

Stockman suggests witness intimidation behind stalled Benghazi investigation

Wow, stockman suggests it. He may be right, Issa is refusing to allow witnesses to testify in public. He wants it behind closed doors. Maybe Issa should start an investigation into his investigation. How many have there been already?

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Last weekend, Issa said he would consider letting Pickering and Mullen testify, but only behind closed doors. Apparently, letting the co-chairman of the independent Benghazi review board testify in an open hearing would be too partisan:"

Daily Kos: Co-chairmen of independent Benghazi review blow the whistle on Darrell Issa

"too partisan"?!?!?! How does Issa say that with a straight face? Anyhoo, every thing you've been told about Benghazi has been a lie but I don't really think you care.
 

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No! they were stopped at the Benghazi airport and told to wait.
There was no stand down order given.

WASHINGTON - The former commander of a four-member Army Special Forces unit in Tripoli, Libya, denied Wednesday that he was told to stand down during last year's deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.

In a closed-door session with the House Armed Services Committee, Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson said his commanders told him to remain in the capital of Tripoli to defend Americans in the event of additional attacks and to help survivors being evacuated from Benghazi.

"Contrary to news reports, Gibson was not ordered to 'stand down' by higher command authorities in response to his understandable desire to lead a group of three other special forces soldiers to Benghazi," the Republican-led committee said in a summary of its classified briefing with military officials, including Gibson.

Officer: No Libya stand-down order
 

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The Benghazi Emails: Talking Points Changed at State Dept.'s ...

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May 15, 2013 · Emails: Benghazi Talking Points Changed at State Dept.'s Request


thank you for again proving that cons cant criticize President Obama in an honest or intelligent fashion. The "spontaneous reaction" to Cairo protest was in the very first draft of the CIA talking points (yes, talking points). The Cairo protest was about the movie. And the republican lies about a 'coverup' were debunked when President Obama released the WH emails to the public. I say public because republicans already had the emails.



Wow, stockman suggests it. He may be right, Issa is refusing to allow witnesses to testify in public. He wants it behind closed doors. Maybe Issa should start an investigation into his investigation. How many have there been already?

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Last weekend, Issa said he would consider letting Pickering and Mullen testify, but only behind closed doors. Apparently, letting the co-chairman of the independent Benghazi review board testify in an open hearing would be too partisan:"

Daily Kos: Co-chairmen of independent Benghazi review blow the whistle on Darrell Issa

"too partisan"?!?!?! How does Issa say that with a straight face? Anyhoo, every thing you've been told about Benghazi has been a lie but I don't really think you care.



State Department Removed Terror, al-Qaida References in Benghazi ...

www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/benghazi-talking-points-edited/2013/05/...

State Department Removed Terror, al-Qaida References in Benghazi Talking Points. Home ; Newsfront ; America ... and we don’t want to undermine the FBI investigation.


Indeed using the Daily Kos as a source of integrity is really a stretch of reality.
 

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There was no stand down order given.

WASHINGTON - The former commander of a four-member Army Special Forces unit in Tripoli, Libya, denied Wednesday that he was told to stand down during last year's deadly assault on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi.

In a closed-door session with the House Armed Services Committee, Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson said his commanders told him to remain in the capital of Tripoli to defend Americans in the event of additional attacks and to help survivors being evacuated from Benghazi.

"Contrary to news reports, Gibson was not ordered to 'stand down' by higher command authorities in response to his understandable desire to lead a group of three other special forces soldiers to Benghazi," the Republican-led committee said in a summary of its classified briefing with military officials, including Gibson.

Officer: No Libya stand-down order



Benghazi "stand down" order confirmed by new testimony | …

www.humanevents.com/2013/05/06/benghazi-stand-down-order-confirmed...

I thought about adding this to my earlier post on the new Benghazi revelations, but I decided it was worthy of a post on its own. Tireless reporter Sharyl Attkisson ...

Obviously like Vern you got your impeccable information from the Daily Kos, Media Matters, or TPM.
 

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The Benghazi Emails: Talking Points Changed at State Dept.'s ...

Yes, the state dept wanted the reference to al Qaeda removed from the talking points. say it: talking points. But the CIA itself had already removed the reference. But if that's the extent of your 'scandal' then you have no scandal.

Indeed using the Daily Kos as a source of integrity is really a stretch of reality.

ah, the ole "I don't have to believe the librul media" dodge. And from a guy posting "human events" 'editorials! AMAZEBALLS. and that 'editorial' has already been proven to be a lie yet you cling to it. AMAZING AMAZEBALLS. the daily Kos is an article that Issa didn't want public testimony from Pickering and Mullen. Do you really think that article cant be verified?

"The rhetoric intensified Sunday during a highly contentious joint appearance with Issa and Pickering on NBC's "Meet the Press" in which Issa maintained that the two "refused to come before our committee." Pickering insisted that he was not invited despite expressing a willingness to testify.

Issa also suggested on the program that Pickering and Mullen meet with the committee behind closed doors so as not to create "some sort of stage show."
Obama seeks bigger diplomatic security budget - CNN.com

So whats your next Deflect-O-Matic post going to be? And why is Issa lying and what is he trying to hide? this is a classic coverup
 
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Seems a guy by the name of Michael Morell in the CIA was key and responsible for changing the original talking points to please the Obama/Clinton narrative. He resigned his CIA post and "President Barack Obama announced Morell's appointment to the President's Intelligence Advisory Board". Payoff? You tell me. Then of course like the rest of you Lefties you claim that Susan Rice did not lie on five different talk shows.

thank you for again proving that cons cant criticize President Obama in an honest or intelligent fashion. The "spontaneous reaction" to Cairo protest was in the very first draft of the CIA talking points (yes, talking points). The Cairo protest was about the movie. And the republican lies about a 'coverup' were debunked when President Obama released the WH emails to the public. I say public because republicans already had the emails.

Wow, stockman suggests it. He may be right, Issa is refusing to allow witnesses to testify in public. He wants it behind closed doors. Maybe Issa should start an investigation into his investigation. How many have there been already?

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Last weekend, Issa said he would consider letting Pickering and Mullen testify, but only behind closed doors. Apparently, letting the co-chairman of the independent Benghazi review board testify in an open hearing would be too partisan:"

Daily Kos: Co-chairmen of independent Benghazi review blow the whistle on Darrell Issa

"too partisan"?!?!?! How does Issa say that with a straight face? Anyhoo, every thing you've been told about Benghazi has been a lie but I don't really think you care.
 

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Benghazi "stand down" order confirmed by new testimony | …

www.humanevents.com/2013/05/06/benghazi-stand-down-order-confirmed...

I thought about adding this to my earlier post on the new Benghazi revelations, but I decided it was worthy of a post on its own. Tireless reporter Sharyl Attkisson ...

Obviously like Vern you got your impeccable information from the Daily Kos, Media Matters, or TPM.

LOL, your link actually confirms what my link says. Notice Hicks uses the term "stand down" but as the general said it wasn't one.
 

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Seems a guy by the name of Michael Morell in the CIA was key and responsible for changing the original talking points to please the Obama/Clinton narrative. He resigned his CIA post and "President Barack Obama announced Morell's appointment to the President's Intelligence Advisory Board". Payoff? You tell me. Then of course like the rest of you Lefties you claim that Susan Rice did not lie on five different talk shows.

Susan Rice didn't lie, she spoke about what the "unclassified" talking points said.
 

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Seems a guy by the name of Michael Morell in the CIA was key and responsible for changing the original talking points to please the Obama/Clinton narrative. He resigned his CIA post and "President Barack Obama announced Morell's appointment to the President's Intelligence Advisory Board". Payoff? You tell me. Then of course like the rest of you Lefties you claim that Susan Rice did not lie on five different talk shows.

"Michael Morell served 33 years in the agency and was appointed the acting head after the abrupt resignation of retired Gen. David Petraeus. Brennan was eventually confirmed for that post.

Morell was the man who briefed President George Bush on Sept. 11. And he was at President Obama's side the day Osama bin Laden was killed during "

wow 33 years. And you discredit his service by creating another lying republican narrative. But again, you were babbling about a scandal. How's that coming?

And why do you pretend that Susan didn't say exactly what was on the CIA talking points. Oh that's right, with cons its not about the facts. It's about their continued lying narratives about President Obama. Serious question, did we invade another country, kill over 4000 Americans, kill hundreds of thousands Iraqis and spend a trillion dollars because of those talking points? yea, they were talking points. So on a scale from 1 to 10 where lying about the intel to invade Iraq killing over 4000 Americans, killing hundreds of thousands Iraqis and spending a trillion dollars is a 10, how do you rate the CIA talking points that said from the very first draft the attack in Libya was a "spontaneously inspired"?
 

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Susan Rice didn't lie, she spoke about what the "unclassified" talking points said.

Which shows incompetence. No one goes on public TV with talking points that aren't verified unless they are incompetent and we see that a lot with this Administration
 

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pbrauer;1062125657]You don't know what "unclassified" means?

Susan Rice's unclassified talking points released - POLITICO.com


Susan Rice was sacrificed by the Obama Administration and she was an idiot for going on TV without verifying what she was given. Just goes to show what the Obama Administration will do to get the message out it wants. They couldn't care less about people like Susan Rice or even people like you yet you continue to support this Administration. You know the question I have to ask? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?






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susan rice was sacrificed by the obama administration and she was an idiot for going on tv without verifying what she was given. Just goes to show what the obama administration will do to get the message out it wants. They couldn't care less about people like susan rice or even people like you yet you continue to support this administration. You know the question i have to ask? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?/
Sure she was Conservative. :lamo:lamo Still don't know what "unclassified" talking points are? What is it about conservatism that create this kind of idiocy?






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