Texas Republicans Ask to Replace DeLay

[Navy Pride]

Democrats be careful what you wish for, you just might get it........

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/st...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-07-31-12-29-43

xas Republicans Ask to Replace DeLay

By KELLEY SHANNON
Associated Press Writer


NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Texas Republicans asked a federal appeals court on Monday to let them replace former U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay on the November congressional ballot, but Democrats argued that Texas state law requires keeping DeLay as the GOP candidate.

DeLay won a March primary before resigning from Congress in June amid a growing scandal. He is awaiting trial on money laundering and conspiracy charges connected to the financing of Texas legislative campaigns in 2002 with alleged illegal corporate money.

 

[hipsterdufus]

Democrats be careful what you wish for, you just might get it........

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/st...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2006-07-31-12-29-43

xas Republicans Ask to Replace DeLay

By KELLEY SHANNON
Associated Press Writer


NEW ORLEANS (AP) -- Texas Republicans asked a federal appeals court on Monday to let them replace former U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay on the November congressional ballot, but Democrats argued that Texas state law requires keeping DeLay as the GOP candidate.

DeLay won a March primary before resigning from Congress in June amid a growing scandal. He is awaiting trial on money laundering and conspiracy charges connected to the financing of Texas legislative campaigns in 2002 with alleged illegal corporate money.

I love how Delay tried to say that he didn't live in Texas anymore to get out from under this election. Then a Houston reporter knocked on Delay's house in Sugarland, and Tom answered the door. :doh

 

[danarhea]

I love how Delay tried to say that he didn't live in Texas anymore to get out from under this election. Then a Houston reporter knocked on Delay's house in Sugarland, and Tom answered the door. :doh

Yes, that is EXACTLY what happened. It was on Channel 13. Navy talks about how the Democrats might get what they wished for as if Delay will beat all comers. At the present time, Delay is about 20% behind Nick Lampson, and everyone here says that he will be toast. What is so ironic about the situation is that Delay, in his own arrogance, had his own district stuffed with more Democrats during the redistricting, thinking that he would be a shoe-in. Those Democrats are now coming home to roost, and to make matters worst, most honest Republicans here in Texas want nothing to do with him. If Delay is Replaced, the GOP still has a fair to middling shot at keeping the seat, but otherwise, his District will flip this fall. No matter how Delay throws the dice, they are coming up craps. Stick a fork in Hot Tub Tom. He is done.

 

[aps]

I love how Delay tried to say that he didn't live in Texas anymore to get out from under this election. Then a Houston reporter knocked on Delay's house in Sugarland, and Tom answered the door. :doh

OMG, LMAO! Priceless--totally priceless! :2funny:

 

[Kandahar]

Democrats be careful what you wish for, you just might get it........

Weren't you just saying a couple months ago how DeLay's primary victory represented a big win for the GOP and a big defeat for Dem Der Libruhls? Make up your mind.

 

[Navy Pride]

OMG, LMAO! Priceless--totally priceless! :2funny:

He actually is residing in Va. now.....

 

[Navy Pride]

Weren't you just saying a couple months ago how DeLay's primary victory represented a big win for the GOP and a big defeat for Dem Der Libruhls? Make up your mind.

No, in a primary you only run against people in your own party but that article that I posted said Delay is very popular in the Houston area.......Stay tuned......

 

[danarhea]

No, in a primary you only run against people in your own party but that article that I posted said Delay is very popular in the Houston area.......Stay tuned......

From all the polls here, he is not as popular as Nick Lampson. Hehe.

 

[Navy Pride]

From all the polls here, he is not as popular as Nick Lampson. Hehe.

We shall see..I would not bet the farm on those polls if I were you.................

 

[Pen]

I was disgusted when I read that this whole thing about DeLay being on the ballot was initiated by the Texas Dems. The Republicans should have the right to put forward a candidate of their choice, after DeLay chose not to run again. Whatever law is allowing this to go through the courts needs a major fix imo.

As things stand now, a new Republican candidate is at an extreme disadvantage in terms of name recognition and campaign financing. If an unknown wins at this late date in the race, it will be due to party loyalty in the district.

I hate partisan crap. :damn

 

[danarhea]

We shall see..I would not bet the farm on those polls if I were you.................

You do not understand the demographics here in Houston, but I would not expect you to. Sugar Land, which is where Delay hails from, and where most of his support used to be, is very Conservative, and when I say Conservative, I mean in the traditional sense, where morals count for something.

This poll is from the Houston Chronicle, one of the most Conservative papers in the country, which says that only half the people who voted for Delay in 2004 would vote for him again. Once more, this boils down to a question of morals, or more specifically, Tom's lack of them. Also running against Delay is Stockton, a Conservative Independent. A Libertarian candidate is also running. Both will take even more votes away from Delay.

 

[Navy Pride]

You do not understand the demographics here in Houston, but I would not expect you to. Sugar Land, which is where Delay hails from, and where most of his support used to be, is very Conservative, and when I say Conservative, I mean in the traditional sense, where morals count for something.

This poll is from the Houston Chronicle, one of the most Conservative papers in the country, which says that only half the people who voted for Delay in 2004 would vote for him again. Once more, this boils down to a question of morals, or more specifically, Tom's lack of them. Also running against Delay is Stockton, a Conservative Independent. A Libertarian candidate is also running. Both will take even more votes away from Delay.

I only know what the article says that Delay is very popular in the Houston area.....They could be lying though...

 

[danarhea]

I was disgusted when I read that this whole thing about DeLay being on the ballot was initiated by the Texas Dems. The Republicans should have the right to put forward a candidate of their choice, after DeLay chose not to run again. Whatever law is allowing this to go through the courts needs a major fix imo.

As things stand now, a new Republican candidate is at an extreme disadvantage in terms of name recognition and campaign financing. If an unknown wins at this late date in the race, it will be due to party loyalty in the district.

I hate partisan crap. :damn

1) Nick Lampson is hardly unknown, but you would have to live here in Texas to know that. Lampson is a very renowned Conservative Democrat, who bucks his own party frequently.

2) Delay registered for his party's primary, then when his legal issues looked bad enough, he told everyone he was living in Virginia, and so had to give up his seat. However, when a reporter from the Houston Chronicle knocked on the door of his Sugar Land, Texas residence, he answered the door. This event also made it onto channel 13 here in houston. Delay registered as a candidate for the primary, so he has no choice but to be the candidate represented, since he had no intention of moving out of state when he registerd as a candidate in the primary. That is the law here in Texas. Always has been.

3) We can argue all night as to whether Delay's prosuction was politically motivated, and we would both make good points. However, the law is the law, and this law existed when Delay registered for his primary. At the time, he had no intention of moving, and Texas law spells this out to a tee.

Who is playing partisan politics? Delay is, of course, but he is not above the law here in Texas, and this case is about the law, and will be decided according to the law.

 

[Alex]

Want to know more about how arrogant and guilty Delay is? Watch The Big Buy: How Tom DeLay Stole Congress. It is a documentary about Delay's rise and fall in politics. It is a very good film.

A few Texas Republicans were interviewed for the film and they stated that they are still hard-core Conservatives, but they would never vote for Delay again. It also gives background information on the people who replaced Delay on leadership positions. They are all just as corrupt as Delay.

I rented it from my local Blockbuster. It is also on NetFlix.

 

[Navy Pride]

We shall see what happens.............It should be interesting if he can't get off the ballot........

I think it said in that article that Bush carried that district by a 64% margin..........Must have been a lot of dems voted for him to do that..........

 

[26 X World Champs]

I was disgusted when I read that this whole thing about DeLay being on the ballot was initiated by the Texas Dems. The Republicans should have the right to put forward a candidate of their choice, after DeLay chose not to run again. Whatever law is allowing this to go through the courts needs a major fix imo.

Are you asking for the a Texas judge to be an activist and overturn a law passed by the Texas legislature????

 

[Navy Pride]

Are you asking for the a Texas judge to be an activist and overturn a law passed by the Texas legislature????

This will probably be appealed the SCOTUS.....stay tuned.....

 

[26 X World Champs]

This will probably be appealed the SCOTUS.....stay tuned.....

You're complete lack of knowledge of the Supreme Court is mind-boggling! There's no way something like this can be appealed to the Supreme Court and ruled upon before November. They do not even start a new session until October!

I find it utterly odd that you actually believe that Delay would win the election! Talk about being out of touch with reality! Why do you think Republicans want to get his name off the ballot????? DUH!!!!

Delay cut and ran Navy, he cut and ran...Using your words "your hero Tom Delay Cut and Ran".

 

[Pen]

1) Nick Lampson is hardly unknown, but you would have to live here in Texas to know that. Lampson is a very renowned Conservative Democrat, who bucks his own party frequently.

2) Delay registered for his party's primary, then when his legal issues looked bad enough, he told everyone he was living in Virginia, and so had to give up his seat. However, when a reporter from the Houston Chronicle knocked on the door of his Sugar Land, Texas residence, he answered the door. This event also made it onto channel 13 here in houston. Delay registered as a candidate for the primary, so he has no choice but to be the candidate represented, since he had no intention of moving out of state when he registerd as a candidate in the primary. That is the law here in Texas. Always has been.

3) We can argue all night as to whether Delay's prosuction was politically motivated, and we would both make good points. However, the law is the law, and this law existed when Delay registered for his primary. At the time, he had no intention of moving, and Texas law spells this out to a tee.

Who is playing partisan politics? Delay is, of course, but he is not above the law here in Texas, and this case is about the law, and will be decided according to the law.

Thanks Dana for giving me the full picture. I once lived in Texas, but I would never claim to understand the politics there. I agree that the "law is the Law", and if it needs changing, that comes from the legislative body of the state.

I simply view one party taking advantage over another via manipulation of the law a partisan move that I don't care for. I assure you that Rovian political moves are equally disgusting imo, and he is certainly far more adept at implimenting them nation wide.

I also admit that wishing these tactics between parties never happened is a losing cause.

 

[Pen]

Are you asking for the a Texas judge to be an activist and overturn a law passed by the Texas legislature????

Of course not. The law doesn't work that way. If the lege doesn't like how this particular instance is playing out, my suggestion was that *they* change or tighten down that specific law.

Sheesh...you do know the distinction between the judiciary and the legislature?

 

[Navy Pride]

You're complete lack of knowledge of the Supreme Court is mind-boggling! There's no way something like this can be appealed to the Supreme Court and ruled upon before November. They do not even start a new session until October!

I find it utterly odd that you actually believe that Delay would win the election! Talk about being out of touch with reality! Why do you think Republicans want to get his name off the ballot????? DUH!!!!

Delay cut and ran Navy, he cut and ran...Using your words "your hero Tom Delay Cut and Ran".

Its already went to the circuit court in New Orleans and could be put on a fast track for the SCOTUS......I have a flash for you champs, October comes before November........:rofl

Republicans appealed to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans.

 

[26 X World Champs]

Its already went to the circuit court in New Orleans and could be put on a fast track for the SCOTUS......I have a flash for you champs, October comes before November........:rofl

Let mget this straight NP....You're cool with The Supremes changing Texas law (activist court) because it suits your purposes in this instance but not when you disagree with the result? Is it possible for any single person to be more of a flip flopper than you are? I think not!

Do you have any idea how often you've written about how you are against "activist" courts? I did a quick search for Navy Pride and "Activist" and came up with 73 posts in the last 6 months alone!

Flip Flop....Flip Flop....Flip Flop....Flip Flop....Flip Flop....Flip Flop....Flip Flop....

I know a hell of a lot more Conservatives then you do and the great majority of them would be ok with civil unions but to be honest they are getting tired of the gay marriage issue being jammed down their throats by liberal activist judges

http://www.debatepolitics.com/358393-post52.html

Here's a link to 73 posts that you bash activist judges...in your own words....

http://www.debatepolitics.com/search.php?searchid=106322

 

[hipsterdufus]

He actually is residing in Va. now.....

With Santorum...

 

[Gill]

With Santorum...

Uhhh, I believe Santorum lives in Pennsylvania although all Representatives maintain a residence in the D.C. area.

What I find hypocritical is that the Democrats sued in court in New Jersey (activist judges??) to replace Senator Torrecelli on the ballot after he got in trouble on ethics violations. The New Jersey Supreme Court ruled Torrecelli could be replaced even though the deadline for substitutions had passed. They replaced him with Lautenburg who won the race.

 

[danarhea]

Thanks Dana for giving me the full picture. I once lived in Texas, but I would never claim to understand the politics there. I agree that the "law is the Law", and if it needs changing, that comes from the legislative body of the state.

I simply view one party taking advantage over another via manipulation of the law a partisan move that I don't care for. I assure you that Rovian political moves are equally disgusting imo, and he is certainly far more adept at implimenting them nation wide.

I also admit that wishing these tactics between parties never happened is a losing cause.

Of course, you are right on that. The Democrats will take political advantage (sometimes in sleazy ways) of a situation just as readily as the GOP does. On this, we are in agreement.