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Texas is a lot like China.

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The United States can sometimes be seen as a scale version of the entire world. Every state is different; every state has its own government and its own laws, largely independent from other states.

So, I will use this "scale" theory when comparing Texas to China. Basically, when it comes to human rights (or, lack thereof), Texas is to the United States what China is to the entire world.

Both have the highest flat number of death penalties, and the second highest per capita death penalties, of their respective scales. Only Singapore has more per capita executions than China, on a national scale, and only Oklahoma has more per capita executions than Texas, on a state scale. For proof of this statistic, click here

It was Texas who's flag-burning laws were struck down as unconstitutional, showing that Texas has little respect for freedom of speech... kinda like China. Both have constitutions that are SUPPOSED to guarantee the right to free speech, but Texas wanted to ban flag burning (symbolic speech), and China uses the "subversion of state power" statute to criminalize those who criticize the government.

It was Texas - not Alabama, not Georgia, not Mississippi, not Louisiana, not Arkansas, but Texas - who's laws were struck down as unconstitutional, prohibiting abortion and homosexual conduct, even in the privacy of one's own home. This proves that, like China, Texas has very little respect for privacy rights.

Texas is one of the few states that has not enacted any state employment discrimination laws. They are one of only six states that does not recognize public policy - and only one of thirteen states that does not recognize implied contract - as an exception to at-will employment. Here is proof of that. This seems awfully similar to China's sweatshop factors.

In Texas criminal law, a trial by ambush is legal. The law is supposed to require the prosecutor to turn over, to the defendant and his counsel, all evidence that can be useful in getting an acquittal. However, in Texas, only the prosecutor gets to decide what evidence meets that standard. Here is proof. Hmmm, kinda sounds like China!

So, there you have it. Stats, along with citations, that Texas has about the human rights abuse record of China. The only problem is, with Texas, we have the U.S. Supreme Court to step in and tell them no; China has no such higher power.
 

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Yes, Texas trying to ban flag burning is totally the same thing as China putting dissidents in prison or worse.
It's a first amendment violation. They might as well be the same thing.
 

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Might as well be =/= is/are

Try again.
**facepalm**

There is a common denominator amongst them, and, considering all the vast similarities between Texas and China, they are close enough.
 

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**facepalm**

There is a common denominator amongst them, and, considering all the vast similarities between Texas and China, they are close enough.
No there is no common denominator among them. And there is no such thing as close enough.
 

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No there is no common denominator among them.
Yes, they are. I'll make you a bet: I bet you twenty thousand dollars that I can point out a common denominator among them, that I have already stated. If you accept the bet, and the loser refuses to pay within one week of loosing, then 1) the amount in dispute is increased to $50,000, and 2) we arbitrate that case online, using internet-ARBitration: Online arbitration firm for internet arbitration & dispute resolution.

Accept those terms, and I will repeat myself. Do you accept?

And there is no such thing as close enough.
Do you even realize what you're saying?

I'm on a game show. I'm asked "Who was the first President of the United States?" I buzz in and say "Washington."

"Ooooh, sorry, we were looking for GEORGE Washington. Sorry, there's no such thing as 'close enough.'"
 

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The United States can sometimes be seen as a scale version of the entire world. Every state is different; every state has its own government and its own laws, largely independent from other states.

So, I will use this "scale" theory when comparing Texas to China. Basically, when it comes to human rights (or, lack thereof), Texas is to the United States what China is to the entire world.

Both have the highest flat number of death penalties, and the second highest per capita death penalties, of their respective scales. Only Singapore has more per capita executions than China, on a national scale, and only Oklahoma has more per capita executions than Texas, on a state scale. For proof of this statistic, click here

It was Texas who's flag-burning laws were struck down as unconstitutional, showing that Texas has little respect for freedom of speech... kinda like China. Both have constitutions that are SUPPOSED to guarantee the right to free speech, but Texas wanted to ban flag burning (symbolic speech), and China uses the "subversion of state power" statute to criminalize those who criticize the government.

It was Texas - not Alabama, not Georgia, not Mississippi, not Louisiana, not Arkansas, but Texas - who's laws were struck down as unconstitutional, prohibiting abortion and homosexual conduct, even in the privacy of one's own home. This proves that, like China, Texas has very little respect for privacy rights.

Texas is one of the few states that has not enacted any state employment discrimination laws. They are one of only six states that does not recognize public policy - and only one of thirteen states that does not recognize implied contract - as an exception to at-will employment. Here is proof of that. This seems awfully similar to China's sweatshop factors.

In Texas criminal law, a trial by ambush is legal. The law is supposed to require the prosecutor to turn over, to the defendant and his counsel, all evidence that can be useful in getting an acquittal. However, in Texas, only the prosecutor gets to decide what evidence meets that standard. Here is proof. Hmmm, kinda sounds like China!

So, there you have it. Stats, along with citations, that Texas has about the human rights abuse record of China. The only problem is, with Texas, we have the U.S. Supreme Court to step in and tell them no; China has no such higher power.
Maybe you're right. After all, Hank Jr. wrote a song about it:

If heaven ain't a lot like Peking
I don't wanna go
If heaven ain't a lot like Peking
I'd just as soon stay home

I was one of the chosen few
To be born in Mudanjiang
I'm just alike my babas son
I'm proud of who I am
I went through a lot of good women
And shook Ikusa's hand
If I never see the pearly gates
I've walked through the promised land

If heaven ain't a lot like Peking
I don't wanna go
If heaven ain't a lot like Peking
I'd just as soon stay home
If they don't have a China Disney
Like they do in Old Shanghai
Just send me to hell or New York City
It would be about the same, oh my...

I've got wild ginkgo trees
and crazy little weeds
Growin around my fangzi
These dusty roads ain't streets of gold
But I'm a happy right where I be
All these pretty little Rè nǚshì
Are a country boy's dream
They ain't got wings or halos
But they sure look hao to me

...
 
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The United States can sometimes be seen as a scale version of the entire world. Every state is different; every state has its own government and its own laws, largely independent from other states.

So, I will use this "scale" theory when comparing Texas to China. Basically, when it comes to human rights (or, lack thereof), Texas is to the United States what China is to the entire world.

Both have the highest flat number of death penalties, and the second highest per capita death penalties, of their respective scales. Only Singapore has more per capita executions than China, on a national scale, and only Oklahoma has more per capita executions than Texas, on a state scale. For proof of this statistic, click here

It was Texas who's flag-burning laws were struck down as unconstitutional, showing that Texas has little respect for freedom of speech... kinda like China. Both have constitutions that are SUPPOSED to guarantee the right to free speech, but Texas wanted to ban flag burning (symbolic speech), and China uses the "subversion of state power" statute to criminalize those who criticize the government.

It was Texas - not Alabama, not Georgia, not Mississippi, not Louisiana, not Arkansas, but Texas - who's laws were struck down as unconstitutional, prohibiting abortion and homosexual conduct, even in the privacy of one's own home. This proves that, like China, Texas has very little respect for privacy rights.

Texas is one of the few states that has not enacted any state employment discrimination laws. They are one of only six states that does not recognize public policy - and only one of thirteen states that does not recognize implied contract - as an exception to at-will employment. Here is proof of that. This seems awfully similar to China's sweatshop factors.

In Texas criminal law, a trial by ambush is legal. The law is supposed to require the prosecutor to turn over, to the defendant and his counsel, all evidence that can be useful in getting an acquittal. However, in Texas, only the prosecutor gets to decide what evidence meets that standard. Here is proof. Hmmm, kinda sounds like China!

So, there you have it. Stats, along with citations, that Texas has about the human rights abuse record of China. The only problem is, with Texas, we have the U.S. Supreme Court to step in and tell them no; China has no such higher power.

Wait. Are you really attempting to suggest that Texas is, at large, an uneducated backwater filled with intesnely ignorant hicks and equally ignorant Tea Party extremists?

Your audacity astounds me -- where on Earth did you come up with such a radical conclusion?!

Next you'll say Arizona has immigration problems.
 

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It's a first amendment violation. They might as well be the same thing.
Yes, like a shaving cut and an axe wound might as well be the same thing. Seeing the world in pure black and white is always going to mislead you.
 

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Yes, like a shaving cut and an axe wound might as well be the same thing. Seeing the world in pure black and white is always going to mislead you.
If somebody actually takes that shaving razor and cuts your face in your sleep, that is just as illegal as if they took an axe and lopped your arm off. Assault is assault; battery is battery. You either attempted to cause him bodily harm or you didn't. You either left a physical mark on his body, that one can see with one's naked eye, or you didn't. If you didn't leave a mark, it's misdemanor battery; if you did leave a mark, it's felony battery (at least, in my state, it is). It's that simple.

A government (emphasis on that last word) is infringing on peoples' right to free speech; it doesn't matter how severe the infringement is.
 

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Well at least we can put things on the plate and see what happens.
 

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If somebody actually takes that shaving razor and cuts your face in your sleep, that is just as illegal as if they took an axe and lopped your arm off. Assault is assault; battery is battery. You either attempted to cause him bodily harm or you didn't. You either left a physical mark on his body, that one can see with one's naked eye, or you didn't. If you didn't leave a mark, it's misdemanor battery; if you did leave a mark, it's felony battery (at least, in my state, it is). It's that simple.

A government (emphasis on that last word) is infringing on peoples' right to free speech; it doesn't matter how severe the infringement is.
You can't shout fire in a crowded theater. That must, then, be the same thing as executing you for disagreeing with the People's Party.
 

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You can't shout fire in a crowded theater. That must, then, be the same thing as executing you for disagreeing with the People's Party.
Stupid idiot.

I never said that freedom of speech didn't have limitations. For example, I can't defame anyone, or threaten to kill anyone. I also can't harass anyone.

But, a prohibition on a certain type of speech either passes strict scrutiny, or it doesn't. THAT is where the "gray area" ends.
 

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Having lived in Dallas for a few years some time back I can tell you one damn thing for sure.

Don't mess with Texas!

They have Guns.
 

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You can't shout fire in a crowded theater. That must, then, be the same thing as executing you for disagreeing with the People's Party.

It really is a shame and I'm ashamed that my home state that I should be Texas proud is known as the killem' state.
 

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Having lived in Dallas for a few years some time back I can tell you one damn thing for sure.

Don't mess with Texas!

They have Guns.

And a good Texan has respect for their weapons.
 

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Yes, they are. I'll make you a bet: I bet you twenty thousand dollars that I can point out a common denominator among them, that I have already stated. If you accept the bet, and the loser refuses to pay within one week of loosing, then 1) the amount in dispute is increased to $50,000, and 2) we arbitrate that case online, using internet-ARBitration: Online arbitration firm for internet arbitration & dispute resolution.

Accept those terms, and I will repeat myself. Do you accept?


Do you even realize what you're saying?

I'm on a game show. I'm asked "Who was the first President of the United States?" I buzz in and say "Washington."

"Ooooh, sorry, we were looking for GEORGE Washington. Sorry, there's no such thing as 'close enough.'"
There is no such thing as close enough. Your comparison is bunk.
 

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Having lived in Dallas for a few years some time back I can tell you one damn thing for sure.

Don't mess with Texas!

They have Guns.

I've always been amused by this specific tidbit of nonsense -- the almost religious Texan belief that somehow, a bunch of hicks with civilian arms will pose any threat whatsoever to an invading military.

I always hear that slogan, "Don't Mess With Texas". I always want to say, if the Mexican Army felt like it, it could swallow Texas in a day -- provided, of course, the Texans lived up to their idiotic anti-government reputation and refused the help of the national US military.

Hicks with guns will always and necessarily be crushed by proper, trained, equiped military forces -- and it's laughable to think that Texan partisan action by civilians would have a serious impact on an invading force.



There's a major difference between historical partisan groups, like the French Resistance or the Red Army, and a bunch of gun-toting rednecks with little to no training -- organisation, organisation, organisation.
 

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Texas is a socialist communist state?

Yea, sure, alright. I'll buy that.
 
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