Texas GOP: We’re Gonna Try To Leave The Union Again!

[EMNofSeattle]

Oh I see. So you want to secede from the US but keep relying on it for defense so you don’t have to pay for it. And then brag about how you can defend yourselves and don’t need no stinkin’ bubmint because you have your own shotgun. Smart!

You have politicians and a populace who do not believe in basic evolutionary biology, and don’t want it taught in their schools. This is science dating back to the first half of the 19th century. So you can see why more modern ideas like climate change science, or new technology regarding new energy sources, vaccines, or recommendations on pandemic control, etc...are going to have a lot of trouble getting any traction in this new country. They want their understanding of the world and how things are done to remain just like they were in the days of the Alamo. That’s why they are called “conservative”, after all.

It’s actually the left that opposes evolutionary biology but sure whatever

 

[bearpoker]

Texas would likely inpose higher taxes as an independent Republic but would still have a lower burden than the Texas + federal taxes are today.

Federal relief dollars are greatly overstated, most are wasted and never see their way to effected people anyway

All the Federal jobs in the state would disappear overnight. That's a huge chunk of money that would leave the state and not return.

 

[bearpoker]

It’s actually the left that opposes evolutionary biology but sure whatever

link?

 

[EMNofSeattle]

All the Federal jobs in the state would disappear overnight. That's a huge chunk of money that would leave the state and not return.

Oh no! How will the economy ever survive without the EEOC?

 

[ataraxia]

It’s actually the left that opposes evolutionary biology but sure whatever

Really? How?

 

[bearpoker]

Oh no! How will the economy ever survive without the EEOC?

There are a bunch of military bases in Texas and all the soldiers and civilians who work there get paychecks. There also the weapons factories that Checker mentioned. All those workers get paychecks. All the workers in Federal offices get paychecks. All the post office workers and letter carriers get paychecks. Are you starting to get the picture? All those paychecks go away. They leave the Texas economy for good.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

There are a bunch of military bases in Texas and all the soldiers and civilians who work there get paychecks.

Texas if independent would have its own military force and spend far less because they wouldn’t be carrying out imperialism abroad. Texas was a wealthy place before America was the worlds policeman. [/quote]There also the weapons factories that Checker mentioned. All those workers get paychecks[/quote] but not federal ones

. All the workers in Federal offices get paychecks.

most of whom are worthless and bring no real value, in fact they’re parasites.

All the post office workers and letter carriers get paychecks.

Texas would have a postal system if independent.

Are you starting to get the picture? All those paychecks go away. They leave the Texas economy for good.

So you’re saying Texas would be poorer because we wouldn’t be killing brown people overseas at weddings?

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

There are a bunch of military bases in Texas and all the soldiers and civilians who work there get paychecks. There also the weapons factories that Checker mentioned. All those workers get paychecks. All the workers in Federal offices get paychecks. All the post office workers and letter carriers get paychecks. Are you starting to get the picture? All those paychecks go away. They leave the Texas economy for good.

Not to mention, both CBS and ABC have now moved their national broadcast operations centers to South Texas, from New York City. If secession occurred, US national broadcast ops are now in "a foreign country".
Sounds like those networks may want to retain their real estate holdings in New York City after all.

 

[bearpoker]

Texas if independent would have its own military force and spend far less because they wouldn’t be carrying out imperialism abroad. Texas was a wealthy place before America was the worlds policeman.

There also the weapons factories that Checker mentioned. All those workers get paychecks[/quote] but not federal ones most of whom are worthless and bring no real value, in fact they’re parasites. Texas would have a postal system if independent.
So you’re saying Texas would be poorer because we wouldn’t be killing brown people overseas at weddings?
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No I'm saying that billions of dollars would leave the Texas economy. Texas would have to pay for postal services instead of the Feds. Whether or not they replaced the other jobs or not, they would lose the money that once flowed into their economy from the US federal government. That's what would make Texas poorer.

 

[Tigerace117]

Texas if independent would have its own military force and spend far less because they wouldn’t be carrying out imperialism abroad. Texas was a wealthy place before America was the worlds policeman.

There also the weapons factories that Checker mentioned. All those workers get paychecks[/quote] but not federal ones most of whom are worthless and bring no real value, in fact they’re parasites. Texas would have a postal system if independent.
So you’re saying Texas would be poorer because we wouldn’t be killing brown people overseas at weddings?
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It’s really quite funny watching the guy who idolizes thugs like Franco and Pinochet pretend to care about “brown people being killed at weddings”.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

There also the weapons factories that Checker mentioned. All those workers get paychecks

but not federal ones most of whom are worthless and bring no real value, in fact they’re parasites. Texas would have a postal system if independent.
So you’re saying Texas would be poorer because we wouldn’t be killing brown people overseas at weddings?
[/QUOTE]

It’s really quite funny watching the guy who idolizes thugs like Franco and Pinochet pretend to care about “brown people being killed at weddings”.
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Franco and Pinochet Had to protect their own people from subversives within their own borders. They did not go abroad to kill civilians who did not harm their own people

 

[Tigerace117]

but not federal ones most of whom are worthless and bring no real value, in fact they’re parasites. Texas would have a postal system if independent.
So you’re saying Texas would be poorer because we wouldn’t be killing brown people overseas at weddings?

It’s really quite funny watching the guy who idolizes thugs like Franco and Pinochet pretend to care about “brown people being killed at weddings”.
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Franco and Pinochet Had to protect their own people from subversives within their own borders. They did not go abroad to kill civilians who did not harm their own people
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Franco and Pinochet were psychotic thugs who murdered vast numbers of innocent people for shits and giggles....something you whole heartedly support.

Which is why your attempts to pretend you care about people killed in drone strikes gone awry are such a joke.

 

[Dayton3]

I wonder how well Texas would fair if all they had was their national guard to protect them once the national military pulls out.

You ignore the obvious. The national military has a disproportionate number of Texans serving in it.

 

[Tigerace117]

You ignore the obvious. The national military has a disproportionate number of Texans serving in it.

You ignore the obvious....there’s no guarantee all that many of them would feel obligated to run off to join the “Texan military”.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

It’s really quite funny watching the guy who idolizes thugs like Franco and Pinochet pretend to care about “brown people being killed at weddings”.


Franco and Pinochet were psychotic thugs who murdered vast numbers of innocent people for shits and giggles....something you whole heartedly support.

Which is why your attempts to pretend you care about people killed in drone strikes gone awry are such a joke.

None of that is true. But believe whatever you want

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I wonder how well Texas would fair if all they had was their national guard to protect them once the national military pulls out.

Who would they need protection from? The Texas National Guard would be more then sufficient to protect from Mexico.


And they wouldn’t even invade anyway

 

[Slartibartfast]

You ignore the obvious. The national military has a disproportionate number of Texans serving in it.

You assume they will all be primarily loyal to texas versus things like the gi bill or america or that once they succeed they will have access to munitions or other resources not located in texas.

Also if texas pulls out, I suspect deployments will change to get ready since it will not happen over night and the military has time to react.

 

[Tigerace117]

None of that is true. But believe whatever you want

Are you seriously trying to deny Franco and Pinochet murdered vast numbers of innocent people in the name of “anti communism”?

 

[swing_voter]

Pinochet was anti communist.

Allende would've killed just as many as Pinochet, if not more.

Franco was anti communist too.

So was Hitler.

But the communists were far from sweethearts.


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[bomberfox]

You're assuming Texas would be treated poorly? You're probably right though considering how weak the current administration treats countries like Iran.

 

[bomberfox]

Pinochet was anti communist.

Allende would've killed just as many as Pinochet, if not more.

Franco was anti communist too.

So was Hitler.

But the communists were far from sweethearts.


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This is the biggest bunch of bullshit pinochet apologia i’ve ever heard. Question, were Allende’s “thugs” dragging people into enclosed areas to be raped by dogs? Gawd America is so pretentious.

 

[bomberfox]

Why would Texas want or need nukes? You don't think the US would want Texas to be a strong partner and ally? Canada doesn't have them, Mexico doesnt have them. You're making pretty out there assumptions.

Nah. Why bother?

 

[d0gbreath]

We don't grow enough food here to feed 29 million people. No where near enough.

 

[bomberfox]

Secure borders is not the opposite of small government and small government is not anarchy. You can have limited government with a secure border and professional law enforcement along with citizen involvement.

The citizenry would allow genocide. No dice.

 

[Dayton3]

Are you seriously trying to deny Franco and Pinochet murdered vast numbers of innocent people in the name of “anti communism”?

To make an omelet a few eggs must be broken. Collateral damage