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Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted...


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...H4I1Gc2tw-_C-m29x4ykaV5TMHgJ5TAT1vALlR0pYq3A8
By Timothy Meads -- On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.... “Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed." According to a press release issued by the Attorney General's office, while non-US citizens are legally allowed to obtain driver's licenses and other forms of ID, "only citizens are eligible to vote." Furthermore, the Sec. of State's office notes that "Voting in an election in which the person knows he or she is not eligible to vote is a second-degree felony in the State of Texas. "
"Nothing is more vital to preserving our Constitution than the integrity of our voting process, and my office will do everything within its abilities to solidify trust in every election in the state of Texas. I applaud Secretary of State Whitley for his proactive work in safeguarding our elections," AG Paxton added.



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Why isn't this breaking news by the biased MSM? Indeed, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Leftist media wont cover for one simple reason.... they are Democrats.
The Texas investigation is just scratching the surface. What are the odds that 100% of them voted Democratic? And how many are in the States of CA, NY, IL, FL, WA and OR?
The PMS Dem Left want wide Open Border without protection while They Fortify heir Own Mansions with Tall Walls. Others probably are Drug and Human Trafficking for Profits. Like Hillary they`ll do anything for Profits Their Sole motivation to be in Politics, even Importation of Violent Criminals are big Money Makers for Attorneys in every Specialty.
 
Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted...


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...H4I1Gc2tw-_C-m29x4ykaV5TMHgJ5TAT1vALlR0pYq3A8
By Timothy Meads -- On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.... “Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed." According to a press release issued by the Attorney General's office, while non-US citizens are legally allowed to obtain driver's licenses and other forms of ID, "only citizens are eligible to vote." Furthermore, the Sec. of State's office notes that "Voting in an election in which the person knows he or she is not eligible to vote is a second-degree felony in the State of Texas. "
"Nothing is more vital to preserving our Constitution than the integrity of our voting process, and my office will do everything within its abilities to solidify trust in every election in the state of Texas. I applaud Secretary of State Whitley for his proactive work in safeguarding our elections," AG Paxton added.



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Why isn't this breaking news by the biased MSM? Indeed, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Leftist media wont cover for one simple reason.... they are Democrats.
The Texas investigation is just scratching the surface. What are the odds that 100% of them voted Democratic? And how many are in the States of CA, NY, IL, FL, WA and OR?
The PMS Dem Left want wide Open Border without protection while They Fortify heir Own Mansions with Tall Walls. Others probably are Drug and Human Trafficking for Profits. Like Hillary they`ll do anything for Profits Their Sole motivation to be in Politics, even Importation of Violent Criminals are big Money Makers for Attorneys in every Specialty.

The Left, their media and their sycophants on the Right want to bring this country to it's knees any way possible.
 
Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted...


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...H4I1Gc2tw-_C-m29x4ykaV5TMHgJ5TAT1vALlR0pYq3A8
By Timothy Meads -- On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.... “Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed." According to a press release issued by the Attorney General's office, while non-US citizens are legally allowed to obtain driver's licenses and other forms of ID, "only citizens are eligible to vote." Furthermore, the Sec. of State's office notes that "Voting in an election in which the person knows he or she is not eligible to vote is a second-degree felony in the State of Texas. "
"Nothing is more vital to preserving our Constitution than the integrity of our voting process, and my office will do everything within its abilities to solidify trust in every election in the state of Texas. I applaud Secretary of State Whitley for his proactive work in safeguarding our elections," AG Paxton added.



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Why isn't this breaking news by the biased MSM? Indeed, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Leftist media wont cover for one simple reason.... they are Democrats.
The Texas investigation is just scratching the surface. What are the odds that 100% of them voted Democratic? And how many are in the States of CA, NY, IL, FL, WA and OR?
The PMS Dem Left want wide Open Border without protection while They Fortify heir Own Mansions with Tall Walls. Others probably are Drug and Human Trafficking for Profits. Like Hillary they`ll do anything for Profits Their Sole motivation to be in Politics, even Importation of Violent Criminals are big Money Makers for Attorneys in every Specialty.

What the hell is a "non-US citizen"

Shouldn't that be a "citizen of another country" or an "illegal alien"?
 
What the hell is a "non-US citizen"

Shouldn't that be a "citizen of another country" or an "illegal alien"?

It's as the name implies. A person that is not a citizen of the US. This can include both people that are here legally and illegally.
 
Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted...


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...H4I1Gc2tw-_C-m29x4ykaV5TMHgJ5TAT1vALlR0pYq3A8
By Timothy Meads -- On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.... “Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed." According to a press release issued by the Attorney General's office, while non-US citizens are legally allowed to obtain driver's licenses and other forms of ID, "only citizens are eligible to vote." Furthermore, the Sec. of State's office notes that "Voting in an election in which the person knows he or she is not eligible to vote is a second-degree felony in the State of Texas. "
"Nothing is more vital to preserving our Constitution than the integrity of our voting process, and my office will do everything within its abilities to solidify trust in every election in the state of Texas. I applaud Secretary of State Whitley for his proactive work in safeguarding our elections," AG Paxton added.



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Why isn't this breaking news by the biased MSM? Indeed, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Leftist media wont cover for one simple reason.... they are Democrats.
The Texas investigation is just scratching the surface. What are the odds that 100% of them voted Democratic? And how many are in the States of CA, NY, IL, FL, WA and OR?
The PMS Dem Left want wide Open Border without protection while They Fortify heir Own Mansions with Tall Walls. Others probably are Drug and Human Trafficking for Profits. Like Hillary they`ll do anything for Profits Their Sole motivation to be in Politics, even Importation of Violent Criminals are big Money Makers for Attorneys in every Specialty.

It was posted last night. I Googled it, the first citation was...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/us/noncitizens-voting-texas.html

Does the NY Times count as 'biased mainstream media'?
Don't you guys have enough to get poutraged about without pulling stuff out of your butts?


edit- Just for context, if the worst-case were true, it would mean that about 1/2 of 1% of votes in last year's governor election were ineligible.

"But Democrats and voting rights advocates were skeptical of the state’s claims. More than 8.3 million people voted in the Texas governor’s race last year, which means that even if all 58,000 people who voted were, in fact, found to be noncitizens and voted in 2018 — a claim that no state official has made — they would have amounted to only 0.69 percent of all votes that were cast."
 
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Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted...


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...H4I1Gc2tw-_C-m29x4ykaV5TMHgJ5TAT1vALlR0pYq3A8
By Timothy Meads -- On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.... “Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed." According to a press release issued by the Attorney General's office, while non-US citizens are legally allowed to obtain driver's licenses and other forms of ID, "only citizens are eligible to vote." Furthermore, the Sec. of State's office notes that "Voting in an election in which the person knows he or she is not eligible to vote is a second-degree felony in the State of Texas. "
"Nothing is more vital to preserving our Constitution than the integrity of our voting process, and my office will do everything within its abilities to solidify trust in every election in the state of Texas. I applaud Secretary of State Whitley for his proactive work in safeguarding our elections," AG Paxton added.



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Why isn't this breaking news by the biased MSM? Indeed, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Leftist media wont cover for one simple reason.... they are Democrats.
The Texas investigation is just scratching the surface. What are the odds that 100% of them voted Democratic? And how many are in the States of CA, NY, IL, FL, WA and OR?
The PMS Dem Left want wide Open Border without protection while They Fortify heir Own Mansions with Tall Walls. Others probably are Drug and Human Trafficking for Profits. Like Hillary they`ll do anything for Profits Their Sole motivation to be in Politics, even Importation of Violent Criminals are big Money Makers for Attorneys in every Specialty.

As Texas is a GOP controlled State, well it looks like the GOP got some explaining to do. I wonder how many voted for lying Ted?
 
Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted...


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...H4I1Gc2tw-_C-m29x4ykaV5TMHgJ5TAT1vALlR0pYq3A8
By Timothy Meads -- On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.... “Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed." According to a press release issued by the Attorney General's office, while non-US citizens are legally allowed to obtain driver's licenses and other forms of ID, "only citizens are eligible to vote." Furthermore, the Sec. of State's office notes that "Voting in an election in which the person knows he or she is not eligible to vote is a second-degree felony in the State of Texas. "
"Nothing is more vital to preserving our Constitution than the integrity of our voting process, and my office will do everything within its abilities to solidify trust in every election in the state of Texas. I applaud Secretary of State Whitley for his proactive work in safeguarding our elections," AG Paxton added.



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Why isn't this breaking news by the biased MSM? Indeed, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Leftist media wont cover for one simple reason.... they are Democrats.
The Texas investigation is just scratching the surface. What are the odds that 100% of them voted Democratic? And how many are in the States of CA, NY, IL, FL, WA and OR?
The PMS Dem Left want wide Open Border without protection while They Fortify heir Own Mansions with Tall Walls. Others probably are Drug and Human Trafficking for Profits. Like Hillary they`ll do anything for Profits Their Sole motivation to be in Politics, even Importation of Violent Criminals are big Money Makers for Attorneys in every Specialty.

This is how Texas is going to become blue!
 
It's as the name implies. A person that is not a citizen of the US. This can include both people that are here legally and illegally.

The phrase makes it sound like they are citizens of the US. it is a clever way of making them sound legit...
 
Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted...


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...H4I1Gc2tw-_C-m29x4ykaV5TMHgJ5TAT1vALlR0pYq3A8
By Timothy Meads -- On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.... “Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed." According to a press release issued by the Attorney General's office, while non-US citizens are legally allowed to obtain driver's licenses and other forms of ID, "only citizens are eligible to vote." Furthermore, the Sec. of State's office notes that "Voting in an election in which the person knows he or she is not eligible to vote is a second-degree felony in the State of Texas. "
"Nothing is more vital to preserving our Constitution than the integrity of our voting process, and my office will do everything within its abilities to solidify trust in every election in the state of Texas. I applaud Secretary of State Whitley for his proactive work in safeguarding our elections," AG Paxton added.



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Why isn't this breaking news by the biased MSM? Indeed, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Leftist media wont cover for one simple reason.... they are Democrats.
The Texas investigation is just scratching the surface. What are the odds that 100% of them voted Democratic? And how many are in the States of CA, NY, IL, FL, WA and OR?
The PMS Dem Left want wide Open Border without protection while They Fortify heir Own Mansions with Tall Walls. Others probably are Drug and Human Trafficking for Profits. Like Hillary they`ll do anything for Profits Their Sole motivation to be in Politics, even Importation of Violent Criminals are big Money Makers for Attorneys in every Specialty.

Here are the links to the official sites for those doubting the veracity of Townhalls claims:

Texas Secretary of State David Whitley
Ken Paxton Attorney General of Texas

Hmm....58,000 illegal votes. Fraud. Easily enough to sway a local State election or even a national election. Wonder how many vote in California or NY...
 
The phrase makes it sound like they are citizens of the US. it is a clever way of making them sound legit...

"Non"-US Citizen.....only to those that don't know the meaning of "non". Which is something you learn in elementary school. So yeah...doubtful. Very very doubtful.
 
The phrase makes it sound like they are citizens of the US. it is a clever way of making them sound legit...

The phrase “non-US citizen” is the opposite of a US citizen. The term is used throughout official US government paperwork and websites.
 
https://www.texastribune.org/2019/01/25/texas-flags-tens-thousands-voters-citizenship-check/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1548463366&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

"It’s unclear exactly how many of those individuals are not actually U.S. citizens and whether that number will be available in the future. In its notice to counties, the secretary of state's office said the names should be considered "WEAK" matches, using all capital letters for emphasis."


"In announcing the review of the rolls, Secretary of State David Whitley — who was appointed to the post last month after serving as deputy chief of staff to Republican Gov. Greg Abbott — immediately handed the data over to the Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, a Republican who said his office will "spare no effort in assisting with these troubling cases."

But without additional verification, you can't say these individuals all engaged in illegal voting, said Chris Davis, the head of the Texas Association of Elections Administrators."


Let's all just slow down a little bit.
 
As Texas is a GOP controlled State, well it looks like the GOP got some explaining to do. I wonder how many voted for lying Ted?

Every big city in Texas is blue as far as I'm aware. Not red. Which is why the "experts" have been predicting that Texas will soon be turning blue. There was even a whole campaign about it...

Can Texas Democrats turn the Lone Star State blue?
How To Turn Texas Blue
Could Texas turn blue in 2018? Stranger things have happened
Could Democrats Really Turn Texas Blue In 2018?
 
My guess is that the non-citizens most likely to be voting would be those here legally. Those are the ones most likely to have valid ID such as a driver's license to use to register.
 
Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted...


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...H4I1Gc2tw-_C-m29x4ykaV5TMHgJ5TAT1vALlR0pYq3A8
By Timothy Meads -- On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.... “Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed." According to a press release issued by the Attorney General's office, while non-US citizens are legally allowed to obtain driver's licenses and other forms of ID, "only citizens are eligible to vote." Furthermore, the Sec. of State's office notes that "Voting in an election in which the person knows he or she is not eligible to vote is a second-degree felony in the State of Texas. "
"Nothing is more vital to preserving our Constitution than the integrity of our voting process, and my office will do everything within its abilities to solidify trust in every election in the state of Texas. I applaud Secretary of State Whitley for his proactive work in safeguarding our elections," AG Paxton added.



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Why isn't this breaking news by the biased MSM? Indeed, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Leftist media wont cover for one simple reason.... they are Democrats.
The Texas investigation is just scratching the surface. What are the odds that 100% of them voted Democratic? And how many are in the States of CA, NY, IL, FL, WA and OR?
The PMS Dem Left want wide Open Border without protection while They Fortify heir Own Mansions with Tall Walls. Others probably are Drug and Human Trafficking for Profits. Like Hillary they`ll do anything for Profits Their Sole motivation to be in Politics, even Importation of Violent Criminals are big Money Makers for Attorneys in every Specialty.

Rather conspicuously missing from this report is why, with alleged evidence of 58K felony violations, there were no prosecutions mentioned. Registering voters and allowing them to vote (supervising elections) is a government function. It would seem that those doing the "illegal" voter registration (and/or allowing those "illegally" registered to vote) are complicit in, if not directly responsible for, this criminal activity.
 
This is how Texas is going to become blue!

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Texas remained true to the GOP in this week's general election, but the blue spots on the map that represent Democratic votes and mark many of the state's biggest cities are getting bluer. We know that Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, Laredo and Houston have turned blue. Meanwhile towns along the border with Mexico are now blue.
 
As Texas is a GOP controlled State, well it looks like the GOP got some explaining to do. I wonder how many voted for lying Ted?

Sounds like a Republican conspiracy of the worst sort. Lock them up!!!!!
 
If all 58,000 voted in the Governor election last year it would be about 1/2 of 1% of 8.3 million votes cast.

When a vote can come down to just a few hundred actual votes does the percentage of total votes that they make up really matter?

Note: I know that in this last election Cruz won handily by a margin of 200k plus votes. But this is not always the case in all States or even in Texas. Bush's election against Gore for example came down to just a few hundred votes cast.
 
My guess is that the non-citizens most likely to be voting would be those here legally. Those are the ones most likely to have valid ID such as a driver's license to use to register.

Except that those here illegally love to use fake or stolen identities so you can't discount them from this.
 
It was posted last night. I Googled it, the first citation was...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/us/noncitizens-voting-texas.html

Does the NY Times count as 'biased mainstream media'?
Don't you guys have enough to get poutraged about without pulling stuff out of your butts?


edit- Just for context, if the worst-case were true, it would mean that about 1/2 of 1% of votes in last year's governor election were ineligible.

"But Democrats and voting rights advocates were skeptical of the state’s claims. More than 8.3 million people voted in the Texas governor’s race last year, which means that even if all 58,000 people who voted were, in fact, found to be noncitizens and voted in 2018 — a claim that no state official has made — they would have amounted to only 0.69 percent of all votes that were cast."

That is a deflection.

Isn't one of the primary arguments about election voter fraud that illegals don't vote?

So extrapolating from your own figure of .69% applied nationwide to just Democrat totals in 2016 that would make nearly 500,000, but actually more like over 1 million if applied to the total of the 2016 national vote, and IMO almost all would likely have been voting Democrat.

But even then the concentration would most likely be in those "sanctuary" States with the largest populations of illegal migrants, including California, and other once "Red" States. Easily enough to affect local Statewide elections, not to mention adding numbers to the national elections.

That is only one example of possible voter fraud. Not even touching on things like possible mail-in voter fraud (valid voters, like the elderly or disabled who allow a "trusted" caretaker to vote for them), etc.
 
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Texas remained true to the GOP in this week's general election, but the blue spots on the map that represent Democratic votes and mark many of the state's biggest cities are getting bluer. We know that Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, Laredo and Houston have turned blue. Meanwhile towns along the border with Mexico are now blue.

I'm from CA. and that's how the blue-ing of a state happens, in the major cities first where it is heavily populated.
Eventually, TX will be blue.
 
Texas Finds 95,000 Non-US Citizens Registered To Vote -- 58,000 Have Actually Voted...


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...H4I1Gc2tw-_C-m29x4ykaV5TMHgJ5TAT1vALlR0pYq3A8
By Timothy Meads -- On Friday January 25, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced that 95,000 individuals registered to vote in the Lone Star State have been identified as "Non-US Citizens," meaning they are illegally registered to vote. Further evidence brought forth by Texas Secretary of State David Whitely confirms that 58,000 of these individuals have broken the law and voted in "one or more" recent elections.... “Every single instance of illegal voting threatens democracy in our state and deprives individual Texans of their voice," AG Paxton said in a statement. "My Election Fraud Unit stands ready to investigate and prosecute crimes against the democratic process when needed." According to a press release issued by the Attorney General's office, while non-US citizens are legally allowed to obtain driver's licenses and other forms of ID, "only citizens are eligible to vote." Furthermore, the Sec. of State's office notes that "Voting in an election in which the person knows he or she is not eligible to vote is a second-degree felony in the State of Texas. "
"Nothing is more vital to preserving our Constitution than the integrity of our voting process, and my office will do everything within its abilities to solidify trust in every election in the state of Texas. I applaud Secretary of State Whitley for his proactive work in safeguarding our elections," AG Paxton added.



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Why isn't this breaking news by the biased MSM? Indeed, the Progressive Marxist Socialist Leftist media wont cover for one simple reason.... they are Democrats.
The Texas investigation is just scratching the surface. What are the odds that 100% of them voted Democratic? And how many are in the States of CA, NY, IL, FL, WA and OR?
The PMS Dem Left want wide Open Border without protection while They Fortify heir Own Mansions with Tall Walls. Others probably are Drug and Human Trafficking for Profits. Like Hillary they`ll do anything for Profits Their Sole motivation to be in Politics, even Importation of Violent Criminals are big Money Makers for Attorneys in every Specialty.

Yawn. Until I see something more substantive, I'll write this off as just more of your Maoist propaganda.

Here, let me set you straight on this, esp. in light of the fact that Donnie Twumpie's own voter commission found no evidence of voter fraud.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/us/noncitizens-voting-texas.html?login=email&auth=login-email
 
Except that those here illegally love to use fake or stolen identities so you can't discount them from this.

You can bet your bottom dollar that if they are voting illegally, they are also users of stolen or forged documents; green cards, drivers licenses, and social security cards
 
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