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Texas Death Penalty for Abortions

Northern Light said:
It's called involuntary termination, a form of manslaughter.

When women want their pregnancies it becomes homicide.

When they don't want their pregnancies it becomes abortion.

Women decide, not you.
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Hitler, not God, decided it was OK to murder Jews. Black Lives Matter morons, not God, decided it was OK to murder cops. White moronic slave owners, not God, decided it was OK to enslave, beat and even murder black slaves. Mueller and his leftist pals, not God, decided it was OK to raid Manafort's house in the middle of the night with camera crews in tow for crimes equally committed by democrat associates who were not charged. Humans, not God, decide whether it is OK to murder infants either inside or outside the womb.
 
Northern Light said:
It's called involuntary termination, a form of manslaughter.

When women want their pregnancies it becomes homicide.

When they don't want their pregnancies it becomes abortion.

Women decide, not you.
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why isbit homicide when they want it but abortion when they don't? And can we apply this thinking to the rest of our laws?
 
AlphaOmega said:
why isbit homicide when they want it but abortion when they don't? And can we apply this thinking to the rest of our laws?
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Unborn children have the right to life, don't they? It just doesn't apply to women exercising their self-defense right to remove an unwanted person from their womb.

If I shoot a homeless person who is threatening me and refusing to leave my home, it's self-defense. If you shoot the same homeless person through my living room window, it's murder.
 
YouveBeenTrumpd said:
The death penalty should definitely go to the abortion provider.

As for the woman, just like in all homicide cases, extenuating circumstances are taken into account. People charged with murder can get any sentence from life in prison to simple probation if there are mitigating circumstances, and charges can be dropped from murder to manslaughter. I am sure the same thing would happen with this as well.
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Why the provider? Does the provider hold that pregnant woman down by force and perform an abortion on her?
 
straykatz said:
Why the provider? Does the provider hold that pregnant woman down by force and perform an abortion on her?
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He is complicit in acts of feminism and witchcraft, and his soul must be purified by the flames.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
Unborn children have the right to life, don't they? It just doesn't apply to women exercising their self-defense right to remove an unwanted person from their womb.

If I shoot a homeless person who is threatening me and refusing to leave my home, it's self-defense. If you shoot the same homeless person through my living room window, it's murder.
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A fetus isn't threatening anyone. It's the killing of a defenseless human no matter which way you view it. You are killing a human being who is at their most vulnerable state. Special place in hell right next to hitler for baby killers.
 
AlphaOmega said:
A fetus isn't threatening anyone. It's the killing of a defenseless human no matter which way you view it. You are killing a human being who is at their most vulnerable state. Special place in hell right next to hitler for baby killers.
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Why should a woman risk her life when she doesn't want to?
 
vegas giants said:
Why should a woman risk her life when she doesn't want to?
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To avoid the need of killing another innocent human being. You guys crack me up...shooting innocent humam beings in a classroom....horrific...ripping an innocent human being apart by the limbs in the womb..... perfecrly normal.
 
AlphaOmega said:
To avoid the need of killing another innocent human being. You guys crack me up...shooting innocent humam beings in a classroom....horrific...ripping an innocent human being apart by the limbs in the womb..... perfecrly normal.
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So the teacher is required to jump in front of that bullet intended for the child?

That is what you are saying. Someone MUST risk their life for another?
 
Anyone who thinks a change in laws will stop abortions is deluding themselves. It's not about abortion, it's about safe abortion. If the right gets away with this they'll only feel encouraged and start looking around to see what other rights and freedoms that their religion doesn't like can be rolled back. Gay marriage? Drug laws? It's Christian sharia trying to creep back in to society.
 
vegas giants said:
So the teacher is required to jump in front of that bullet intended for the child?

That is what you are saying. Someone MUST risk their life for another?
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No...the correct scenario would be the teacher shouldn't shoot the children. The teacher didn't make the decision to bring a human into the world.
 
AlphaOmega said:
A fetus isn't threatening anyone. It's the killing of a defenseless human no matter which way you view it. You are killing a human being who is at their most vulnerable state. Special place in hell right next to hitler for baby killers.
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All I know is NOBODY better get between me and my post-workout fetal shakes and smoothies.
 
AlphaOmega said:
No...the correct scenario would be the teacher shouldn't shoot the children. The teacher didn't make the decision to bring a human into the world.
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In your scenario the teacher is safe but the mothers life is at risk? You are ok with these women dying?
 
vegas giants said:
In your scenario the teacher is safe but the mothers life is at risk? You are ok with these women dying?
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I'm not ok with anyone dying. The women however made the choice to have sex...the unborn did not. The onus is on her to bear the risk of her own decision.
 
AlphaOmega said:
I'm not ok with anyone dying. The women however made the choice to have sex...the unborn did not. The onus is on her to bear the risk of her own decision.
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Or to get an abortion. It's an easy fix and available everywhere in the civilized world. Perhaps you would prefer El Salvador?
 
AlphaOmega said:
A fetus isn't threatening anyone. It's the killing of a defenseless human no matter which way you view it. You are killing a human being who is at their most vulnerable state. Special place in hell right next to hitler for baby killers.
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You're right, I chose a poor analogy. If a bystander looked into my house and saw a homeless person actively harming me, they would not legally require my permission to rescue me, even if-- unbenownst to them-- I was consenting to the harm.

I guess a better analogy would be felony murder. If you committed an assault with a deadly weapon upon me while a homeless persoin were beating me, and then ended up killing the homeless person also/instead, you would be liable for the homeless person's murder.
 
Frigidweirdo said:
Seems it's increasing.

The internet is far from the liberating force it was hoped it would be. In fact it seems to make people more ignorant.
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It's actually not increasing, if you research the demographics. Pro-life is decreasing. They're just getting louder as their old vanguard is dying out.

The internet is a liberating force in this case because it is allowing people to mobilize faster to protest government intrusion into people's reproductive lives.

marke said:
Hitler, not God, decided it was OK to murder Jews. Black Lives Matter morons, not God, decided it was OK to murder cops. White moronic slave owners, not God, decided it was OK to enslave, beat and even murder black slaves. Mueller and his leftist pals, not God, decided it was OK to raid Manafort's house in the middle of the night with camera crews in tow for crimes equally committed by democrat associates who were not charged. Humans, not God, decide whether it is OK to murder infants either inside or outside the womb.
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The fact that you think all of these things are the same shows how totally delusional you are.

Nobody has the right to the bodily resources of another human being. No one. We even protect the rights of dead people to not have their organs harvested unless they signed a document prior to their death saying it was OK. So what makes you think you get access to the resources of a female's womb and her livelihood?

The answer is that you don't.

It doesn't matter what laws get created. If I have an unwanted pregnancy, I'm ending it. I don't care if I have to use a coat hanger or something else. If I don't want the pregnancy, it's gone. Nobody tells me that I have to be pregnant.

AlphaOmega said:
why isbit homicide when they want it but abortion when they don't? And can we apply this thinking to the rest of our laws?
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Because a woman gets to decide what happens in her own body. She gets to decide what her pregnancy means to her, or doesn't. Nobody has a right to her bodily resources, not you, not a fetus, not anybody.

That's why.
 
AlphaOmega said:
I'm not ok with anyone dying. The women however made the choice to have sex...the unborn did not. The onus is on her to bear the risk of her own decision.
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The woman made a choice to have sex with a man. He too is culpable, for not using a condom, especially since most abortions are decided upon by the couple
 
Manc Skipper said:
The woman made a choice to have sex with a man. He too is culpable, for not using a condom, especially since most abortions are decided upon by the couple
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A woman can have sex with 100 men in a year and only have one pregnancy. A man can have sex with 100 women in a year and create 100 pregnancies. Yet all the laws focus on punishing women for being sluts. Men have zero culpability according to laws.
 
Manc Skipper said:
The woman made a choice to have sex with a man. He too is culpable, for not using a condom, especially since most abortions are decided upon by the couple
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And do men have a legal choice as to whether the mother can abort or not?
 
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