Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through

[Excon]

You know, if I wasn't able to read, I'd be much more likely to agree with you.



Did you know that "I do not agree with you." does not mean the same thing as "You're argument is not valid."?



You know, if I couldn't count I'd be much more likely to agree with you.



I see, so your position is "It is not up to me to make myself clear, it is up to you to guess what I am saying.", is it?

PS - Unfortunately "I don't agree with you." does not mean the same thing as "You are wrong.". Mr. Trump's most ardent supporters most certainly seem like they will believe anything that he says - no matter how absurd.

BTW, what "offends" some people doesn't offend others. There is no "constitutional right" NOT to be offended.

Just more absurdity and deflection from you.
Figures.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Just more absurdity and deflection from you.
Figures.

Actually, since all of the "demonstration units" have been demolished (apparently it took about one hour to do so) the whole discussion has now become moot.

 

[Excon]

Actually, since all of the "demonstration units" have been demolished (apparently it took about one hour to do so) the whole discussion has now become moot.

No. But do tell, how do you figure.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

No. But do tell, how do you figure.

You can't take down a wall that doesn't exist.

However, if you want to provide a specific example of a non-existent wall being taken down by any means whatsoever I will gladly reconsider that conclusion.

 

[Excon]

You can't take down a wall that doesn't exist.

However, if you want to provide a specific example of a non-existent wall being taken down by any means whatsoever I will gladly reconsider that conclusion.

Your reply is absurdly silly.
Did you really think we were only speaking to possible breaching methods on the prototypes instead of on the portions of the wall that also already exist?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Your reply is absurdly silly.
Did you really think we were only speaking to possible breaching methods on the prototypes instead of on the portions of the wall that also already exist?

I know what I was talking about. Heck I even provided you references so that you could read up on it.

I have no idea what you were talking about - and on that point we appear to be in accord.

 

[Sandokan]

That's just nonsense. From a blimp's camera, you see a group of illegals dash across the border uninhibited into a USA border city, splitting apart as they do. Within seconds they are lost in that border city. Seeing them do so accomplished absolutely nothing whatsoever. Nothing.

So you saw them do it by a camera on a blimp. So what? That is worthless information since they have dispersed before law enforcement can arrive. The purpose of ALL static barrier security - locks, shatter resistance glass, fences and walls - are to slow people down to allow law enforcement time to respond and arrive.

If you believe your claim, you would remove the locks from your windows and doors - and you leave those all open in good weather when you leave and when you sleep - and instead just install a security camera in your belief that a security camera stops people from illegal entry. Do you do that? Leave all your doors and windows open because you have a security camera?

Your message is one of those annoying messages as I stated. So, you have a helium balloon over where you live with a camera pointing down at your residence, correct? If you believe what you just posted you do. So, do you?

Ocasio-Cortez said that: “No matter how you feel about the wall, I think it’s a moral abomination…. I think it’s like the Berlin Wall. I think it’s like any other wall designed to separate human beings and block out people who are running away from the humanitarian disasters. I just think it’s wrong.”

The Socialist regime of East Germany built The Berlin wall to stop East Germans from escaping into freedom in West Germany, to keep them in captivity. Many East Germans were killed trying to escape by armed guards garrisoned at the wall. The U.S. Wall at the south border intention is to block the flow of illegal immigrants, smugglers and terrorists, in order to protect U.S. citizens.

Most of the 654 mile of wall existing on the south border until 2017 were built under the Obama administration, as part of the Secure Fence Act of 2006. Then the construction of the wall by the Democrat party, she “think it’s a moral abomination.” I wonder if she think that fences and walls around schools are “wrong” too.

Democrats funded Wall built under Obama.

Wall being built under Trump

All Communist countries had armed guards along the border and in some places they built walls to prevent their people to escape to the free world. I think too that those walls built by “socialist” regimes are “a moral abomination designed to separate human beings and to block in people who are running away from the humanitarian disasters.”

Aerial view of Berlin border wall, 1978.

 

[Excon]

I know what I was talking about. Heck I even provided you references so that you could read up on it.

I have no idea what you were talking about - and on that point we appear to be in accord.

As usual, your reply is absurdly silly. You are deflecting from providing nothing of relevance and from being wrong.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

As usual, your reply is absurdly silly. You are deflecting from providing nothing of relevance and from being wrong.

Your position is/was "This specific thing has not been done yet, so it cannot be done. However, as soon as you show me that this specific thing has been done, I will consider admitting that it can be done."

My position is/was "Regardless of whether this specific thing has been done yet, science and practical experience with other analogous things shows that it can be done.".

Equus mortuus laxatur tincidunt.

 

[Excon]

Your position is/was "This specific thing has not been done yet, so it cannot be done. However, as soon as you show me that this specific thing has been done, I will consider admitting that it can be done."

Wrong as usual and a lie to boot.

My position is/was "Regardless of whether this specific thing has been done yet, science and practical experience with other analogous things shows that it can be done.".

Your position was and still is irrelevant.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Wrong as usual and a lie to boot.


Your position was and still is irrelevant.

Yes, I quite agree that that is what you "think".

 

[j-mac]

The cross-border migrant inflow may reach 100,000 people in March, according to the Washington Post.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/04/washington-post-border-rush-may-hit-100000-migrants-in-march/

How many is enough?

 

[Excon]

Yes, I quite agree that that is what you "think".

My statement is accurate which is why you fail to refute it.

 

[PoppyCock]

This is news or something? You mean you can cut steel? Did the liberal reporters just learn about that? You can also cut concrete or stone. By golly, even diamonds are cut and sanded. Who'da thunk it?

 

[Lord of Planar]

From NBC News

Test of steel prototype for border wall showed it could be sawed through
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President Donald Trump has repeatedly advocated for a steel slat design for his border wall, which he described as "absolutely critical to border security" in his Oval Office address to the nation Tuesday. But Department of Homeland Security testing of a steel slat prototype proved it could be cut through with a saw, according to a report by DHS.

A photo exclusively obtained by NBC News shows the results of the test after military and Border Patrol personnel were instructed to attempt to destroy the barriers with common tools.

The Trump administration directed the construction of eight steel and concrete prototype walls that were built in Otay Mesa, California, just across the border from Tijuana, Mexico. Trump inspected the prototypes in March 2018. He has now settled on a steel slat, or steel bollard, design for the proposed border barrier additions. Steel bollard fencing has been used under previous administrations.

However, testing by DHS in late 2017 showed all eight prototypes, including the steel slats, were vulnerable to breaching, according to an internal February 2018 U.S. Customs and Border Protection report.

COMMENT:-

Well, back to the drawing board.
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So?

Sensor indicate a breech is in progress, and security can be there before the breech occurs.

Nothing to see here.

 

[Lord of Planar]

As I read this thread, all that comes to mind is it is a stupid thread, made by people who don't know there is such a thing called a transducer.

 

[PeteEU]

So?

Sensor indicate a breech is in progress, and security can be there before the breech occurs.

Nothing to see here.

Problem is the security has not been hired because of the incompetent Trump administration...

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[TU Curmudgeon]

This is news or something? You mean you can cut steel? Did the liberal reporters just learn about that? You can also cut concrete or stone. By golly, even diamonds are cut and sanded. Who'da thunk it?

Ahh, but you see (as Excon so clearly does) since no one has cut one of the "demonstration modules" that **P*R*O*V*E*S** that it can never be done.