Bold, Irresponsible, Lackluster, Visionary --- you will find all these words, and many more, in articles and opinions about Tesla. However, wealthy entrepeneurs continue to gamble large sums of money on large potential future payouts. What other company has had the balls to take on the American Auto Industry? Although Tesla is still struggling with profitability margins, they are rolling cars off an assembly line in California.
But the Gigafactory being built in China is enormous.
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The May 2019 article is worth a read, but here are a few excerpts...
Tesla Gigafactory 3 building in Shanghai looks almost complete - Electrek
About 7 months ago, Tesla announced a deal with the Shanghai government to build a wholly owned local factory and only about 5 months ago, they secured the 210-acres of land for Gigafactory 3 in China necessary. They officially broke ground in January and plan to be done with the building by this summer.
Considering the size of the building, it seemed almost impossible, but a new drone video update shows that the building is almost complete (from Jason Yang):
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When first announcing the plant, Tesla said that it expects “construction to begin in the near future” and that it “will take roughly two years” until they start volume production with a planned capacity of 200,000 units and “then another two to three years before the factory is fully ramped up to produce around 500,000 vehicles per year for Chinese customers.
More recently, Musk said that Tesla wants to produce 3,000 Model 3 vehicles at Gigafactory 3 in Shanghai by the end of the year.
The CEO said that they plan to start production at the beginning of the fourth quarter.
This is insane! Build a plant this size and begin producing units, all within a year.
Every KWH generated by wind is one less KWH generated by coal and natural gas. It also avoids all the associated mining, extraction, and transport of these resources. Funny how you conveniently ignore this fact.
It is sickening given how much in tax exemption promotion by the USA government to Tesla. Why again did we finance Tesla to develop a technology and company for the purpose of moving the technology and production to China?
How many KWHs does it take to gather the raw materials, then process those, all the other steps to build a wind generator, add the roads, then install the wind generator, make all the materials and install the electric line connections to the grid, and to thereafter maintain that wind generator?
How many KWHs does it take to gather the raw materials, then process those, all the other steps to build a wind generator, add the roads, then install the wind generator, make all the materials and install the electric line connections to the grid, and to thereafter maintain that wind generator?
Every KWH generated by wind is one less KWH generated by coal and natural gas. It also avoids all the associated mining, extraction, and transport of these resources. Funny how you conveniently ignore this fact.
I've responded before to that link. The cheapest price of power is around $50/megawatt-hour, and I showed how my bill charges me 6 something cents per kWh, and a link (you I think) responded back had industrial power at under 4 cents.
How much more will you or I pay with electricity added to the mix at $50+ wholsale per megawatt-hour?
I'm not arguing that Iowa doesn't get 35% of their power from wind. It is more expensive for their consumers though. What happens when the feds stop subsidization it, and 10-20 year old plants cost more to maintain than the EOM advertised?
I don't need to offer proof. I don't care if you look this type of thing up for yourself or not. I have no proof to offer from my 40+ years of experience in technical field.
How do you prove experience?
Onshore wind costs are already as low as $0.03-0.04/kWh while you have new photovoltaic solar power system with levelized cost of electricity of as low as $0.03/kWh. While the avarage cost of electricity in the US is $0.12/kWh.
Renewable Energy Costs Take Another Tumble, Making Fossil Fuels Look More Expensive Than Ever
The Price Of Electricity In Your State : Planet Money : NPR
Yes, we all know that.
It also decreases the output of a fossil fuel plan and makes it less efficient, causing the cost of power to rise.
A well-managed natural gas fired power plant can be effectively load-managed to avoid extra costs. Texas uses more wind power more than any other state. Last I looked, they were #11 in low-cost electricity in the country.
It increases their overall levelized costs when they produce less power than they can.
That 2011 NPR article is out of date. Electricity is in the neighborhood of 20% more now. That's retail price. Mine is around 11 cents now, with wholesale around 3 cents, most;y from hydro-power.
As for your 3 cents levelized cost, that's in equatorial regions, and I doubt it's really that cheap.
The difference in latitude isn't that big between southern American states and Middle Eastern countries. There southern American states also have a great opportunities for solar power with very sunny areas. Also new onshore wind project have costs as low as $0.03-0.04/kWh there latitude doesn't matter.
Sorry, I don't believe that for a levelized cost. The lowest costs to date have been seen at 5 cent estimates, and not proven to be that over time yet.
So you simple "believe" the numbers are wrong without providing any sources of your own. That the fact is that investment in renewables energy have really paid off. That investment in renewables have lead to economy of scale and innovation so that you have seen and continue to see a drastic drop in cost.
If they have paid off, then good for them
Now... by "paid off" do you mean they already sold enough electricity to cover all the design and planning costs, and now make enough money to pay all the employees operating and maintaining them?
You have provided no sources on your to refute the fact that renewables are starting to out compete fossil fuels. Also by paid off I mean that having citizens, companies, governments and communities leading the way in investment in renewables have lead to today low. While also starting the needed reduction the toxic pollution from fossil and starting the urgent transition away from fossil fuels.
More than 90% of the world’s children breathe toxic air every day
Fourth National Climate Assessment
While at the same time there also a lot more that can and should be done. For example ending subsidies to fossil fuel and transfer that money to investments in renewables and other technologies needed for the transition away from fossil fuels.
Just 10% of fossil fuel subsidy cash 'could pay for green transition' | Environment | The Guardian
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Yes it does
If it follows through with that mandate the prediction of China having 57% of global EV sales in 2035 would easily come true, as it would mean a good 13 million in EV sales just in China. Germany would likely be the next largest market as unless it has been changed will ban the sale of IC engines by 2030
Let's hope no corners are cut! remember the hoverboard fires? What would that look like in a car?This construction project continues to proceed at an unprecedented rate.
Tesla Gigafactory 3 Construction Progress September 20, 2019: Video
While the main production facility is basically complete (only little things remain), work at the second, smaller facility on the southern side (reportedly a battery workshop) is at full swing. We should see the first walls within a few weeks.
Also, the 220 V substation is well advanced, probably to be completed within a few weeks.
Tesla has produced a complete Model 3 body-in-white at Gigafactory 3 in Shanghai and full production is scheduled to start on October 14, according to a report citing Tesla officials and Chinese officials.
In recent weeks, we have been reporting on Tesla ramping up its efforts to soon start production at Gigafactory 3.
The start of production is going to be a major milestone since it’s going to be the first electric vehicle factory wholly-owned by a foreign automaker in China and Tesla’s second electric vehicle production factory.
After starting construction just in January earlier this year, Tesla has been guiding a start of production in Q4 2019.
Tesla produces complete Model 3 body-in-white at Gigafactory 3, production to start Oct. 14 - Electrek
Less than one year from starting to build the factory to producing vehicles
Tesla produces complete Model 3 body-in-white at Gigafactory 3, production to start Oct. 14 - Electrek
Less than one year from starting to build the factory to producing vehicles
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