Terror is only ok when America/Israel does it (1 Viewer)

[nogoodname]

Hidden Masacre of Fallujah:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...dden+Masac re What about the other masacres?
Convoy Of Death:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...11493&q=convoy
Massacre in Haditha:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...raq+massacr e

Solider saying US troops kill women and children:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...raq+massacr e theres many more God bless are soldiers and the fat bastereds leading them right?:roll:
Don;t forget how Israel does it many countless times, and don;t forget Americas torture camps in other countries and Isles.

 

[Joby]

Re: Terror is only ok when America/Isreal does it

proud to be an american, were at least i know...

 

[nogoodname]

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proud to be an american, were at least i know...

i dont know what to say about your comment but i hope you are proud to be american even with all this bad stuff going on and i am proud to be arab/muslim and american and i am proud to stay that i think what America is doing is wronge same with terroists.

 

[akyron]

Re: Terror is only ok when America/Isreal does it

Hidden Masacre of Fallujah:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...dden+Masac re What about the other masacres?
Convoy Of Death:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...11493&q=convoy
Massacre in Haditha:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...raq+massacr e

Solider saying US troops kill women and children:http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...raq+massacr e theres many more God bless are soldiers and the fat bastereds leading them right?:roll:
Don;t forget how Israel does it many countless times, and don;t forget Americas torture camps in other countries and Isles.

The difference is

Five soldiers charged in Iraq rape-murder case

Soldiers charged with killing Iraqi prisoners

Sabrina Harman Was Convicted On 6 Counts Of Mistreating Inmates

Alleged offenders will face an investigation and trial and jail time or worse if wrongdoing is proven.





On the flip side of the coin.




Investigators pick through London carnage

Man linked to London bombings threatens Sweden

“I am proud of Osama bin Laden. I am proud of everyone who wages war for justice.”

The man also told Dagens Nyheter that he thought the September 11th attacks against the United States were “very good.”

“They are not terrorists, as they are doing what Islam requires,” he said."

One in four Muslims sympathises with motives of terrorists

"100,000 individuals who, if not prepared to carry out terrorist acts, are ready to support those who do."

"a third of British Muslims, 32 per cent, are far more censorious, believing that "Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to bring it to an end"."


There is plenty more to be said but I will leave it at that for now.

 

[nogoodname]

Re: Terror is only ok when America/Isreal does it

The difference is

Five soldiers charged in Iraq rape-murder case

Soldiers charged with killing Iraqi prisoners

Sabrina Harman Was Convicted On 6 Counts Of Mistreating Inmates

Alleged offenders will face an investigation and trial and jail time or worse if wrongdoing is proven.





On the flip side of the coin.




Investigators pick through London carnage

Man linked to London bombings threatens Sweden

“I am proud of Osama bin Laden. I am proud of everyone who wages war for justice.”

The man also told Dagens Nyheter that he thought the September 11th attacks against the United States were “very good.”

“They are not terrorists, as they are doing what Islam requires,” he said."

One in four Muslims sympathises with motives of terrorists

"100,000 individuals who, if not prepared to carry out terrorist acts, are ready to support those who do."

"a third of British Muslims, 32 per cent, are far more censorious, believing that "Western society is decadent and immoral and that Muslims should seek to bring it to an end"."


There is plenty more to be said but I will leave it at that for now.

i think western society is immoral but i wouldnt seek to end it. I mean common teenagers getting drunk at partys? Drinking pracitcly ok? Smoking is alright? Is that what you want your kids to grow up in? or beliving in?

 

[CaptainCourtesy]

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i think western society is immoral but i wouldnt seek to end it. I mean common teenagers getting drunk at partys? Drinking pracitcly ok? Smoking is alright? Is that what you want your kids to grow up in? or beliving in?

No, I'd much prefer teenagers to be learning that strapping a bomb to yourself and blowing up a cafe or bus filled with civilians is OK. Note the sarcasm.

 

[MrFungus420]

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I have one simple statement for most of the Middle East:

If you don't like the way the Israel retaliates, don't attack them.

Personally, I think that every time that Israel is attacked, they should step up their response.

 

[akyron]

Re: Terror is only ok when America/Isreal does it

i think western society is immoral but i wouldnt seek to end it. I mean common teenagers getting drunk at partys? Drinking pracitcly ok? Smoking is alright? Is that what you want your kids to grow up in? or beliving in?

Drinking under 21 is illegal and proescuted.
Smoking underage is illegal. and prosecuted.

"All 50 U.S.states set a minimum age of at least 18 following a directive fromCongress in 1992. In three states -- Alabama, Alaska and Utah -- the legal smoking age is set at 19. "



on the flipside:

Encouraging Women Terrorists


Indoctrination of Children to Seek
Heroic Death for Allah



Al-Dura Calls Children to Follow him to Paradise - Clip


Young Children Convinced of Death

A young boy leaves a farewell letter to his parents and goes off to seek Shahada


"We Teach Children Shahada"



dead Palestinian children are "the greatest message to the world."



violence is the best way to resolve conflict, and that Shahada [death for Allah] is a goal to be pursued.

Hamas launches kiddie suicide bomber website to encourage 'the fun of martyrdom'


and on and on etc., etc.




I am having a hard time believing you got me to even compare the apples and oranges of smoking underage and encouraging children to kill themselves and others violently.


Not in the same ballpark.

 

[Red_Dave]

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i think western society is immoral but i wouldnt seek to end it. I mean common teenagers getting drunk at partys? Drinking pracitcly ok? Smoking is alright? Is that what you want your kids to grow up in? or beliving in?

Whats wrong with drinking? I can understand objecting to drunkeness but i cant see the problem with drinking in moderation.

 

[nogoodname]

Re: Terror is only ok when America/Isreal does it

Whats wrong with drinking? I can understand objecting to drunkeness but i cant see the problem with drinking in moderation.

ya im fine with that its your choice man but in America culture its pretty much ok for anyone to drink parents give their kids beers. If you want to get into this what about girls wearing slutty things? What about our tv? they dont filter anything besides cuss words they can put anything on the TV.

 

[nogoodname]

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Drinking under 21 is illegal and proescuted.
Smoking underage is illegal. and prosecuted.

"All 50 U.S.states set a minimum age of at least 18 following a directive fromCongress in 1992. In three states -- Alabama, Alaska and Utah -- the legal smoking age is set at 19. "



on the flipside:

Encouraging Women Terrorists


Indoctrination of Children to Seek
Heroic Death for Allah



Al-Dura Calls Children to Follow him to Paradise - Clip


Young Children Convinced of Death

A young boy leaves a farewell letter to his parents and goes off to seek Shahada


"We Teach Children Shahada"



dead Palestinian children are "the greatest message to the world."



violence is the best way to resolve conflict, and that Shahada [death for Allah] is a goal to be pursued.

Hamas launches kiddie suicide bomber website to encourage 'the fun of martyrdom'


and on and on etc., etc.




I am having a hard time believing you got me to even compare the apples and oranges of smoking underage and encouraging children to kill themselves and others violently.


Not in the same ballpark.

i think tats only palestine and hamas.

 

[MrFungus420]

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ya im fine with that its your choice man but in America culture its pretty much ok for anyone to drink parents give their kids beers.

Have you ever been to Europe? As far as I know, drinking ages are a lot lower, if not nonexistent, in most European countries.

If you want to get into this what about girls wearing slutty things?

Is this supposed to be justifying suicide bombers??????

What about our tv?

What about it? If you don't like something, change the channel or turn it off.

they dont filter anything besides cuss words

Again, have you ever been to Europe? There is nowhere near the nudity taboo that we have here.

Also again, is this supposed to be justifying suicide bombers??????

they can put anything on the TV.

Except for foul language, nudity, sex and a few other things, you're right...:roll:

 

[MrFungus420]

Re: Terror is only ok when America/Isreal does it

i think tats only palestine and hamas.

Remember Nick Berg?
Al Muhajiroun's Bakri tells Muslims "terrorism is part of Islam"

How about a quote from the Hizballah mnifesto:

"Therefore our struggle will end only when this entity (Israel) is obliterated. We recognize no treaty with it, no cease fire, and no peace agreements, whether separate or consolidated."

To put it more succinctly, the conflict won't be over until either Hizballah or Israel is destroyed.

 

[nogoodname]

Re: Terror is only ok when America/Isreal does it

Have you ever been to Europe? As far as I know, drinking ages are a lot lower, if not nonexistent, in most European countries.



Is this supposed to be justifying suicide bombers??????



What about it? If you don't like something, change the channel or turn it off.



Again, have you ever been to Europe? There is nowhere near the nudity taboo that we have here.

Also again, is this supposed to be justifying suicide bombers??????



Except for foul language, nudity, sex and a few other things, you're right...:roll:

I never said it was justifying anything stop jumping to conclusions?:shock:
Anyways no i havent been to Europe and Europe is Western Culture.

 

[Red_Dave]

Re: Terror is only ok when America/Isreal does it

ya im fine with that its your choice man but in America culture its pretty much ok for anyone to drink parents give their kids beers. If you want to get into this what about girls wearing slutty things? What about our tv? they dont filter anything besides cuss words they can put anything on the TV.

Sorry if that sounded defensive i was just curious as to why some muslims [and christians] are so hung up about it. As someone else said drinking ages are lower in europe. In the uk you can buy alcohol at 18 [though thats not strictly enforced, ive known shops to sell alchol to 13 year olds, not that i condone that ] and drink it in your own home from 5. The french are more relaxed

I dont see whats wrong with kids drinking alchol in moderation. My parents gave me wine most weeks when i was a kid and it never did me any harm [i hope]. Im 18 and have only been drunk to the extent that i wasnt in control of what i was doing once or twice so its not like its turned me into some sort of alcoholic.

If theres anything about american/anglo-american media/culture im worried about its materialism. Thats far more damamgeing to society then the odd swear word. That said there is certainly a problem with women being objectified in the media.

 

[nogoodname]

Re: Terror is only ok when America/Isreal does it

Sorry if that sounded defensive i was just curious as to why some muslims [and christians] are so hung up about it. As someone else said drinking ages are lower in europe. In the uk you can buy alcohol at 18 [though thats not strictly enforced, ive known shops to sell alchol to 13 year olds, not that i condone that ] and drink it in your own home from 5. The french are more relaxed

I dont see whats wrong with kids drinking alchol in moderation. My parents gave me wine most weeks when i was a kid and it never did me any harm [i hope]. Im 18 and have only been drunk to the extent that i wasnt in control of what i was doing once or twice so its not like its turned me into some sort of alcoholic.

If theres anything about american/anglo-american media/culture im worried about its materialism. Thats far more damamgeing to society then the odd swear word. That said there is certainly a problem with women being objectified in the media.

Its the thing that goes on with beer and wine and stuff is that kids don't drink it in moderations at parties.

 

[ProudAmerican]

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i think western society is immoral but i wouldnt seek to end it. I mean common teenagers getting drunk at partys? Drinking pracitcly ok? Smoking is alright? Is that what you want your kids to grow up in? or beliving in?

yeah, I mean hell, I would much rather teens in my country grow up to saw the heads off innocent civilians instead.

 

[Red_Dave]

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Its the thing that goes on with beer and wine and stuff is that kids don't drink it in moderations at parties.

im aware of that but whats immoral about drinking alcohol in itself?

As for sawing the heads off people alot of the governments its often american/brittish supported governments like saudi-arabia that do that. So its not like america has the moral highground.

 

[nogoodname]

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yeah, I mean hell, I would much rather teens in my country grow up to saw the heads off innocent civilians instead.

Ya only Saduai Arabia does that?:2wave:

 

[Voidwar]

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As for sawing the heads off people alot of the governments its often american/brittish supported governments like saudi-arabia that do that. So its not like america has the moral highground.

You are lying out of your boyfriend's favorite orifice.

Find me a beheading performed by a government.

Islamic terror groups behead infidels, and you try to blame the U.S. ???

You are a terrorist propaganda spreader.

After we kill them, there will be a housecleaning, never doubt it.

 

[Red_Dave]

Re: Terror is only ok when America/Isreal does it

You are lying out of your boyfriend's favorite orifice.

Find me a beheading performed by a government.

Islamic terror groups behead infidels, and you try to blame the U.S. ???

You are a terrorist propaganda spreader.

After we kill them, there will be a housecleaning, never doubt it.

I dont see how schoolboyish insults are furthering your argument but whatever floats your boat.

You can read all about beheadings in saudi-arabia here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia and check on the amnesty websites section in saudi arabia when its up and running. All this happens with the help of U.S investment and Brittish weapons of course.

 

[nogoodname]

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I dont see how schoolboyish insults are furthering your argument but whatever floats your boat.

You can read all about beheadings in saudi-arabia here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saudi_Arabia and check on the amnesty websites section in saudi arabia when its up and running. All this happens with the help of U.S investment and Brittish weapons of course.

exactly what i said with out aid the Saudi Arabia police and militray would be weak and harmless.

 

[Voidwar]

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All this happens with the help of U.S investment and Brittish weapons of course.

You are a liar, smearing my country with falsehoods you can't prove, and reasoning that only works on morons.

I think the beheaders and their Imams are responsible for the beheadings, and the U.S. and U.K. have nothing to do with it other than supply the occasional victim.

The world turns and the stars abide, with exactly the same "help of U.S. investment and U.K. weapons." I.E. one has nothing to do with the other, unless you are a terrorism supporting apologist and liar.

 

[Red_Dave]

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You are a liar, smearing my country with falsehoods you can't prove, and reasoning that only works on morons.

I think the beheaders and their Imams are responsible for the beheadings, and the U.S. and U.K. have nothing to do with it other than supply the occasional victim.

The world turns and the stars abide, with exactly the same "help of U.S. investment and U.K. weapons." I.E. one has nothing to do with the other, unless you are a terrorism supporting apologist and liar.

Seams you have opted to stick with the schoolboyish insults.

If the saudi monarcy has decided people should be beheaded then its the saudi-governments responsibility. Saying that the beheadings arent the governments responsibility is like saying that if i pay hired goons to smash up your house then its the fault of the hired goons and not myself. The U.S and Uk support the saudi-government through aid and taxpayer-subsidised weapons ergo they are responsible

Its absurd to act as though you can either support the american government or the terroists for two reasons.

1 the american government has a long history of supporting terroism. The C.I.A has been actively involved in the overthrow of over 12 latin american governments and i will gladly provide the details.
2 Some people [myself included] support neither

 

[Voidwar]

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Seams you have opted to stick with the schoolboyish insults.

Seems has no "A", schoolboy.

If the saudi monarcy has decided people should be beheaded

They have not. Your assertion is blatantly false.

Saying that the beheadings arent the governments responsibility is like saying that if i pay hired goons to smash up your house then its the fault of the hired goons and not myself.

This is about as stupid as blaming the guy who built the road for a bank heist that involved a getaway car.

The Beheaders were Jihadis, acting in the name of Islam.
Find me a paystub that proves otherwise or shut your conspiracy hole.

Your reasoning is a disingenuous lie. The situation is not like the one you describe at all. You imply direct connections that do not exist, when you know they do not, so you are a liar. You do it in a manner that supports a poitical goal, and spout it in public, so you are a propagandist also. You practice selective morality with regards to Islam's gross misbehavior, so you are an apologist as well. I'm not name calling you here, I'm educating you about yourself.