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Ten Suggestions for Rescuing the Bush Legacy (1 Viewer)

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Nicholas Kristof writes for the New York Times editorial page. I don't always find his articles very interesting, but I liked the one in today's New York Times. The title of this thread is the title of the article. I am posting the suggestions that I particularly liked:

Particularly after all the tributes to Gerald Ford in the last few days, President Bush may be pondering his own legacy and obituary. Sorry, Mr. Bush, but it doesn’t look good right now, with your obit perhaps beginning something like this:

“George W. Bush, who achieved tremendous acclaim for his handling of the 9/11 terror attacks but left office vilified and disgraced, mired in the Iraq war and stalemated at home, his hard-line partisan tactics souring the electorate and crippling his beloved Republican Party for a generation, died. ...”

But Mr. Bush, your plight isn’t hopeless. In the holiday spirit, let me offer you 10 suggestions for what you can do in 2007 to try to rescue your legacy. . . .

Fourth, encourage Dick Cheney to look pale in public. Then he can resign on health grounds, and you can appoint Condi Rice or Bob Gates to take his place. Mr. Cheney has been the single worst influence on your foreign policy, as well as the most polarizing figure in your administration. There’s no better move you could make to signal a new beginning than to accept Mr. Cheney’s resignation. . . .

Sixth, address climate change. Nobody expects you to be an Al Gore, but you sully America’s image when you run away from any serious attempt to curb carbon emissions. . . .

Tenth, don’t toss this newspaper to the floor and curse the press for your unpopularity. Instead, borrow from your playbook after you lost the New Hampshire primary in 2000 — grit your teeth, retool and steal ideas from your critics and rivals. It worked then, and it just might help in 2007. ]

The New York Times > TimesSelect

He does a great job in his obit....so, so true!
 
Instead, borrow from your playbook after you lost the New Hampshire primary in 2000

I don't think slandering John McCain in South Carolina will save Bush's legacy.

I think it could be beyond repair, but he can partially save it, and it will depend on what he does with Iraq in the next couple weeks, and how Iraq ends up. Iraq will determine his legacy.
 
Say "Thank You" when impeached.
 
Not a cats chance in hell of him being impeached.
On top of everything else, the US cannot simply go around proposing that every President who lies should be impeached.
Goodness, we would be impeaching every president from day 1 of their Presidency.

You really need to understand that:-
Every Politician is a liar. They cannot be elected unless they lie to some of the electorate.
Most Politicians are corrupt, look at all the scandals that pop up near election time.
 
Not a cats chance in hell of him being impeached.
Only due to the fact that the Congress (even with the Democrats in the majority) is in his pocket and protecting his backside.

On top of everything else, the US cannot simply go around proposing that every President who lies should be impeached.
This one has done a lot more than lie. And his actions are entirely impeach-worthy. As were a myrad of other Presidents, but we can't impeach people who are already out of office.

EDIT: On the OP, there is nothing Bush can do to make his legacy anything but one of total shame and hatred in my book. But the majority of Americans are easier to sway with a few kind words and a smile.
 
Only due to the fact that the Congress (even with the Democrats in the majority) is in his pocket and protecting his backside.


This one has done a lot more than lie. And his actions are entirely impeach-worthy. As were a myrad of other Presidents, but we can't impeach people who are already out of office.

***Try backing up a bit by showing us where Bush lied. All those committees that told him there were WMD in Iraq weren't Bush's direct words. Besides, we did find WMD there, and WMD were not the only reason we entered that war.

EDIT: On the OP, there is nothing Bush can do to make his legacy anything but one of total shame and hatred in my book. But the majority of Americans are easier to sway with a few kind words and a smile.

***The war and Bush's presidency isn't over yet. Despite having 6 years of fighting off the liberal attempt to lose this war--Bush has persevered against all odds. Remember how the libwerals in Congress tried to handcuff Reagan during his fight against the Communist evil empire? Not much difference here with Bush's attempt to keep America free from further enemy assaults, and from further liberal assaults.
 
***Try backing up a bit by showing us where Bush lied. All those committees that told him there were WMD in Iraq weren't Bush's direct words. Besides, we did find WMD there, and WMD were not the only reason we entered that war.
Oh jeez, I don't have to use Iraq to get to a lie that killed thousands of honest, hardworking Americans who were risking their lives for others. Let's look at what happened after September 11th, during the cleanup. Everyone who is even semi-informed is aware of what happened. The government let the fire-fighters, police, and volunteers go into a dangerous environment filled with high amounts of contaminants in the air and didn't properly equip or even warn them of the danger, instead just telling them they'd be alright. Well thanks to that, 12,000-some workers and volunteers were subject these dangerous air contaminants and have fallen ill with long-term, lower and upper respiratory problems and other problems linked to the air contaminants, some dying and some already dead.
That alone is an impeachable offense, if you ask me.

But, we also have his constant attacks on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, shown in his many acts and other activities (signing statements redefining laws, claiming that he doesn't have to follow the law, etc) - also very impeachable.

I've brought up DU before, and I'll do it again. Thousands will die from illnesses caused by their own weapons, and our government brought about these deaths knowingly. This is entirely impeachable.

He has spent billions in government money to pay off reporters, journalists, etc.

What more do you want? I didn't even have to go to him lying about WMDs, the Downing Street memos, nothing of the sort. He is impeachable on stuff that is openly admitted.

Plus he never won the 2000 election anyway, so he is an illegal usurper appointed by 9 men in black robes - not elected by the American people.

***The war and Bush's presidency isn't over yet. Despite having 6 years of fighting off the liberal attempt to lose this war--Bush has persevered against all odds.
Liberal attempt to lose this war? Whoa, someone's been drinking too much Kool-Aid.
The Democrats, as I'm assuming that's who you are referring to, didn't stop him from starting this war. They didn't appoint incompetant Secretaries of Defense. They didn't ignore the generals who were telling Bush and Rummy that they needed things. They didn't go in saying 'Bring it on' and thinking it would be a cakewalk with insurgency, or any resistance at all. They didn't claim that the Iraqis would greet us with roses and cheers. They didn't start this unwinnable war.
There is no 'winning' the war in Iraq. We've already lost. We lost the moment we put troops on the ground. Now there are two choices - Continue having soldiers die for a pipe dream and conquest OR leave now and cut our losses.

Remember how the libwerals in Congress tried to handcuff Reagan during his fight against the Communist evil empire?
Yes, because we had to do a lot of 'fighting' for the USSR to collapse on its inefficent, unworkable self. :roll: Reagan didn't beat anybody. He was just in the right place at the right time - and got us a nice debt to go with our celebrations.

Not much difference here with Bush's attempt to keep America free from further enemy assaults, and from further liberal assaults
America free from assaults, huh? Have you read the Patriot Act? Well, I don't expect you to, most of the people who voted on it in Congress didn't read it. How about the Military Commissions Act? How about any of the many freedom-killing bills that Bush has pushed through Congress? No? That's too bad. Read those and get back to me on how 'free' Bush is keeping America.
 
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***The war and Bush's presidency isn't over yet. Despite having 6 years of fighting off the liberal attempt to lose this war--Bush has persevered against all odds. ...

Against all odds? Isn't he the CiC?
 
Originally posted by jujuman13
Not a cats chance in hell of him being impeached.
On top of everything else, the US cannot simply go around proposing that every President who lies should be impeached.
Goodness, we would be impeaching every president from day 1 of their Presidency.

You really need to understand that:-
Every Politician is a liar. They cannot be elected unless they lie to some of the electorate.
Most Politicians are corrupt, look at all the scandals that pop up near election time.
Not even lies that resulted in possibly a half-million people losing their life!
 
Originally posted by Morty:
Oh jeez, I don't have to use Iraq to get to a lie that killed thousands of honest, hardworking Americans who were risking their lives for others. Let's look at what happened after September 11th, during the cleanup. Everyone who is even semi-informed is aware of what happened. The government let the fire-fighters, police, and volunteers go into a dangerous environment filled with high amounts of contaminants in the air and didn't properly equip or even warn them of the danger, instead just telling them they'd be alright. Well thanks to that, 12,000-some workers and volunteers were subject these dangerous air contaminants and have fallen ill with long-term, lower and upper respiratory problems and other problems linked to the air contaminants, some dying and some already dead.
That alone is an impeachable offense, if you ask me.

But, we also have his constant attacks on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, shown in his many acts and other activities (signing statements redefining laws, claiming that he doesn't have to follow the law, etc) - also very impeachable.

I've brought up DU before, and I'll do it again. Thousands will die from illnesses caused by their own weapons, and our government brought about these deaths knowingly. This is entirely impeachable.

He has spent billions in government money to pay off reporters, journalists, etc.

What more do you want? I didn't even have to go to him lying about WMDs, the Downing Street memos, nothing of the sort. He is impeachable on stuff that is openly admitted.

Plus he never won the 2000 election anyway, so he is an illegal usurper appointed by 9 men in black robes - not elected by the American people.


Liberal attempt to lose this war? Whoa, someone's been drinking too much Kool-Aid.
The Democrats, as I'm assuming that's who you are referring to, didn't stop him from starting this war. They didn't appoint incompetant Secretaries of Defense. They didn't ignore the generals who were telling Bush and Rummy that they needed things. They didn't go in saying 'Bring it on' and thinking it would be a cakewalk with insurgency, or any resistance at all. They didn't claim that the Iraqis would greet us with roses and cheers. They didn't start this unwinnable war.
There is no 'winning' the war in Iraq. We've already lost. We lost the moment we put troops on the ground. Now there are two choices - Continue having soldiers die for a pipe dream and conquest OR leave now and cut our losses.


America free from assaults, huh? Have you read the Patriot Act? Well, I don't expect you to, most of the people who voted on it in Congress didn't read it. How about the Military Commissions Act? How about any of the many freedom-killing bills that Bush has pushed through Congress? No? That's too bad. Read those and get back to me on how 'free' Bush is keeping America.
Welcome to DP Morty!

Glad to have you on board.
 
Plus he never won the 2000 election anyway, so he is an illegal usurper appointed by 9 men in black robes - not elected by the American people.


I've said this before and I'll say it again...


Sandra Day O'Connor does NOT have a penis!:lol:
 
Originally posted by RightatNYU:
I've said this before and I'll say it again...


Sandra Day O'Connor does NOT have a penis
Say's who?
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again...


Sandra Day O'Connor does NOT have a penis!:lol:

And I suppose it's your assertion that Alito and Roberts do? :roll:
Hah!
 
Welcome to DP Morty!

Glad to have you on board.
Heh, thanks.

I've said this before and I'll say it again...


Sandra Day O'Connor does NOT have a penis!
Haha, yes, I will rephrase: Eight men and one woman in black robes.
That doesn't really roll off the tongue as well, but not much else to do.
 
Haha, yes, I will rephrase: Eight men and one woman in black robes.
That doesn't really roll off the tongue as well, but not much else to do.

Ginsburg would also take offense to that, but don't let her fool you. She definitely has a wang.
 
Ginsburg would also take offense to that, but don't let her fool you. She definitely has a wang.

Perhaps Ginsberg is the "one woman" he was referring to.
It is my understanding that O'Connor is officially retired now; Ayotte v. Planned Parenthood was to be her last opinion on the Supreme Court.
 
Perhaps Ginsberg is the "one woman" he was referring to.
It is my understanding that O'Connor is officially retired now; Ayotte v. Planned Parenthood was to be her last opinion on the Supreme Court.

This is true, but the incident he was referring to was the Bush v. Gore case when both were on.

Just a bit of lighthearted banter.
 

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