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Teleprompter to make its debut in Parliament when Obama speaks

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I honestly don't know what is more embarrassing, the thought of Obama having to rely on a teleprompter because he's too damn stupid to speak without it, or the prospect of having the imbecile go before a foreign Parliament and ah & uming, stuttering and stammering his way through a speech a 12 year old could deliver with more finesse, than this idiot.

I am honestly amazed that anyone can still make the dubious claim that Obama is somehow even marginally intelligent. If he is so smart why are his school records locked away and hidden from view?

Don't listen to me. Listen to Obama on his own ah, um, ah, ah, um, words?



Teleprompter to make its debut in Parliament when Obama speaks - India - DNA

A teleprompter will be in use for the first time in the Central Hall of Parliament when US President Barack Obama addresses MPs on November eight.

As per the tentative programme being worked out, the address by Obama, who once said that "America has its roots in the India of Mahatma Gandhi", would not be for more than 20 minutes.

The president's programme in Parliament House complex itself will be less than an hour affair, Parliament sources said today. It is scheduled to start at 5pm.
 

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Dude - you're holding too much in. Let it out and say what you feel.

After watching the Brits on C-Span2 (or is it 3?) chomp on each other and the PM for an entire hour- the jousting, parry, thrust, parry, parry .... all without the benefit of Mr. Teleprompter. It's pretty impressive actually. They have to know what they hell they're talking about or they get run out of town pretty quick. Will there be snickering about it when Obama speaks? Probably - but hey, that's who this country wanted as President - c'est la vie.
 

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Such the Manchurian Candidate.

Turn that prompter off, and he spits out more umms and uhhs than any president in history. Makes Bush look like Zig Ziglar.
 

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Oh my freaking gods I am so SICK of hearing about this non-issue crap. Presidents and leaders have used teleprompters since the technology was invented, Obama is no different. Get a new ****ing line
 

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Oh my freaking gods I am so SICK of hearing about this non-issue crap. Presidents and leaders have used teleprompters since the technology was invented, Obama is no different. Get a new ****ing line
Ever watch the British Parliment during the Q&A asessions with the PM?
 

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Ever watch the British Parliment during the Q&A asessions with the PM?
The Canadian Parliment is the same way. NO teleprompters allowed in there. Harper, although not the most perfect conservative, is ten times more well spoken than Obama. My Gowd, Hoplite, Obama brought a teleprompter in to an elementary school for crying out loud. You have to admit it's a bit much?

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The Canadian Parliment is the same way. NO teleprompters allowed in there. Harper, although not the most perfect conservative, is ten times more well spoken than Obama. My Gowd, Hoplite, Obama brought a teleprompter in to an elementary school for crying out loud. You have to admit it's a bit much?

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As I said, they have been virtually standard issue since the technology has been invented for speakers of all kinds. They are no different than notes on a piece of paper in front of you. They were used extensively by every US president since the advent of television. They are used by politicians and speakers all over the world today. Nobody ****ing cares.

Get a new line
 

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The Canadian Parliment is the same way. NO teleprompters allowed in there. Harper, although not the most perfect conservative, is ten times more well spoken than Obama. My Gowd, Hoplite, Obama brought a teleprompter in to an elementary school for crying out loud. You have to admit it's a bit much?

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It really would be a good thing if the U.S. had something similar where the Congress could have an unscriped, impromptu Q&A with the President on what he's doing, what he's planning and the results of what he and the Executive branch has accomplished. Instead of the canned, written, and projected speaches with no questions from the press after. Even when there are questions our Presidents have chosen who they want and, to my understanding, know what the questions will be before it's asked. No teleprompter to the rescue with the Brits or Canadians.
 

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Its truly sick to see some of the ways people talk about a political opponent, and the President no less, these days. There's not respect anymore left in politics and thats what's really dividing people. People can still get along if they disagree politically however today if someone isn't perfectly in line they suddenly become the scum of the earth.

How can you claim any moral high ground? Is that the America you want to create, one where one's political party is in charge and all dissents against it are mocked, called vile insults, treated as idiots, and disrespected in all other aspects of life to the point where there's not even communication between the two? Pardon me if I don't want to create a cult of snobbery, and this goes out to people on both sides by the way, where all non-members are treated as second class citizens and not as equals and Americans one and the same.

Regardless of your political viewpoints Americans are or at least were, and should be a people of unregulated equality in politics. One man's vote is worth the same as any other's, to the bum on the street to the wealthiest American. To a left-wing Commie and a right-wing fascist. Being an American citizen and having the ability to cast a vote gives us each the RIGHT to an equally valid viewpoint and perspective. We're all Americans, and we all have a say in our government, and each one of us should respect each other's right to that say. When you say these things, there's no respect.

Now don't give me any crap about how the other side isn't showing me any respect so why should I as a party member/support/individual? Again, its about the moral high ground. You take the moral high ground because you are better, its your sign and banner that proves the level of maturity and devotion to the principles of this country you have achieved. And there will be sacrifices for taking that stance. Whether its having to bite one's tongue, educate yourself beyond pundits and biased news, accepting one's errors when they realized rather than simply rationalizing it away because one cannot accept the enemy's victory, or even taking a bullet for those principles. However Americans were killed in Iraq or Afghanistan because we choose the moral high ground? I'll tell you the answer is every single of one of them, we have the nuclear capacity to have destroyed both those countries ending whatever threat may have existed there without losing a single life. Of course there are realpolitik considerations but many Americans on the ground have died to avoid civilian causalities, avoid destruction of building, etc. They have died because as a nation we have said that we will conduct warfare in a way which is morally higher than our enemies and we have paid for it in lives. One may not see the reason, but there is a value in that banner when we say that we took the RIGHT action even though it cost us more, and though the world may or may not recognize it, we as Americans should and be damn proud we tried even if we fail. And we should recognize when we fail in that standard, whether its Abu Graid or referring to a political opponent as some childish insult, or mocking him like an elementary school child.

That is the standard for the country, that is the standard for the individual. Without it you as a political advocate are no better than your opponents who use the same tactics against you, regardless of what they believe, and as a nation we'd be no better than our enemies. At the point we lose that standard the fight is meaningless, because even though the rhetoric and names will change nothing else will. In politics we go from Dems to Reps and from Reps to Dems and all it is for all practical concerns is a D or an R on TV screen and a different face, but for the citizens nothing changes. In war it simply becomes a war of extermination waged by both sides, and regardless of who wins, everybody loses when its all said and done. People, civilians, are died, control has moved from one group to another, but humanity as a whole as not been advanced forward. Luckily we hold onto some of that high standard in our warfare, Iraq and Afghanistan will hopefully one day be better places for us having that standard and if they fail then we should be held to that failure but at least we can say we tried, some.
 

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I hope you don't think President Bush was a better speaker than Obama is.
Sometimes, yeah, I think so. Obama can spend an hour-long speech saying absolutely nothing, so I guess it's a matter of perspective whether you think spending an hour to say nothing can qualify as "good" speaking.
 

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To teleprompter or not to teleprompter - that is the question. Whether 'tis nobler to the ear to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous ums and ahs...............or to take arms against a sea of stuttering.............:lamo
 

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Its truly sick to see some of the ways people talk about a political opponent, and the President no less, these days. There's not respect anymore left in politics and thats what's really dividing people. People can still get along if they disagree politically however today if someone isn't perfectly in line they suddenly become the scum of the earth.

How can you claim any moral high ground? Is that the America you want to create, one where one's political party is in charge and all dissents against it are mocked, called vile insults, treated as idiots, and disrespected in all other aspects of life to the point where there's not even communication between the two? Pardon me if I don't want to create a cult of snobbery, and this goes out to people on both sides by the way, where all non-members are treated as second class citizens and not as equals and Americans one and the same.

Regardless of your political viewpoints Americans are or at least were, and should be a people of unregulated equality in politics. One man's vote is worth the same as any other's, to the bum on the street to the wealthiest American. To a left-wing Commie and a right-wing fascist. Being an American citizen and having the ability to cast a vote gives us each the RIGHT to an equally valid viewpoint and perspective. We're all Americans, and we all have a say in our government, and each one of us should respect each other's right to that say. When you say these things, there's no respect.

Now don't give me any crap about how the other side isn't showing me any respect so why should I as a party member/support/individual? Again, its about the moral high ground. You take the moral high ground because you are better, its your sign and banner that proves the level of maturity and devotion to the principles of this country you have achieved. And there will be sacrifices for taking that stance. Whether its having to bite one's tongue, educate yourself beyond pundits and biased news, accepting one's errors when they realized rather than simply rationalizing it away because one cannot accept the enemy's victory, or even taking a bullet for those principles. However Americans were killed in Iraq or Afghanistan because we choose the moral high ground? I'll tell you the answer is every single of one of them, we have the nuclear capacity to have destroyed both those countries ending whatever threat may have existed there without losing a single life. Of course there are realpolitik considerations but many Americans on the ground have died to avoid civilian causalities, avoid destruction of building, etc. They have died because as a nation we have said that we will conduct warfare in a way which is morally higher than our enemies and we have paid for it in lives. One may not see the reason, but there is a value in that banner when we say that we took the RIGHT action even though it cost us more, and though the world may or may not recognize it, we as Americans should and be damn proud we tried even if we fail. And we should recognize when we fail in that standard, whether its Abu Graid or referring to a political opponent as some childish insult, or mocking him like an elementary school child.

That is the standard for the country, that is the standard for the individual. Without it you as a political advocate are no better than your opponents who use the same tactics against you, regardless of what they believe, and as a nation we'd be no better than our enemies. At the point we lose that standard the fight is meaningless, because even though the rhetoric and names will change nothing else will. In politics we go from Dems to Reps and from Reps to Dems and all it is for all practical concerns is a D or an R on TV screen and a different face, but for the citizens nothing changes. In war it simply becomes a war of extermination waged by both sides, and regardless of who wins, everybody loses when its all said and done. People, civilians, are died, control has moved from one group to another, but humanity as a whole as not been advanced forward. Luckily we hold onto some of that high standard in our warfare, Iraq and Afghanistan will hopefully one day be better places for us having that standard and if they fail then we should be held to that failure but at least we can say we tried, some.
I really have no idea what you're talking about....
 

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If you are going to argue an issue only a partisan could potentially care about, there is probably no reason to start a thread about it. Hardly anybody is going to make a value judgment one way or the other about Obama because he relies on a teleprompter. It is a nitpicking issue.
 
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Every single person that has ever brought up the teleprompter as a way to attack a political opponent is literally an idiot.
It's not the teleprompter per se, it's how much the President relies on it. No other politician in my memory has ever used it to the extent that he does, and when off it, he does in fact sound like all the other Presidents, if not worse. I don't know about you, but my feeling is that Obama off script is an average speaker, if not slightly below.


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If you are going to argue an issue only a partisan could potentially care about, there is probably no reason to start a thread about it. Hardly anybody is going to make a value judgment one way or the other about Obama because he relies on a teleprompter. It is a nitpicking issue.
Well, the "nitpick" is in how many hail the Presidents speaking ability. On the prompter, he's competent, off it, not so much.. That's all, really.


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It's not the teleprompter per se, it's how much the President relies on it. No other politician in my memory has ever used it to the extent that he does, and when off it, he does in fact sound like all the other Presidents, if not worse. I don't know about you, but my feeling is that Obama off script is an average speaker, if not slightly below.


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Every single time a president gives a prepared speech they use a teleprompter. Every time. Your partisan beliefs are giving you a confirmation bias. They've done this for decades, because it doesn't make any sense to have a president wasting hours of his day memorizing a speech.
 

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Every single time a president gives a prepared speech they use a teleprompter. Every time. Your partisan beliefs are giving you a confirmation bias. They've done this for decades, because it doesn't make any sense to have a president wasting hours of his day memorizing a speech.
Hmm.. Partisan eh? Well, maybe, it's possible, but that doesn't change the fact that off the prompter the President is a boob..


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The Canadian Parliment is the same way. NO teleprompters allowed in there. Harper, although not the most perfect conservative, is ten times more well spoken than Obama. My Gowd, Hoplite, Obama brought a teleprompter in to an elementary school for crying out loud. You have to admit it's a bit much?

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Apparently, President Obama is not smarter than a 5th grader.
 

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As I said, they have been virtually standard issue since the technology has been invented for speakers of all kinds. They are no different than notes on a piece of paper in front of you. They were used extensively by every US president since the advent of television. They are used by politicians and speakers all over the world today. Nobody ****ing cares.

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So, since Obama uses one everywhere else, it's not a big deal for him to use one in Parliment, whent it's never been done before. Got it.
 

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It's not the teleprompter per se, it's how much the President relies on it. No other politician in my memory has ever used it to the extent that he does and when off it, he does in fact sound like all the other Presidents, if not worse. I don't know about you, but my feeling is that Obama off script is an average speaker, if not slightly below.
Then you need to pay more attention. Watch some of the unscripted events Bush or Clinton spoke at where there were no teleprompters or notes of any kind, watch the answers given in debates by senatorial candidates.
 
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