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Teenage Prostitution

NoParty

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Unintended consequences:

Federal government shuts down and bans Backpage and all internet sites pertaining to prostitution.
Prostitutes invade social media and dating sites advertising for Johns. Feds asleep at the wheel.
Teenage females watch and learn, quickly.
Six months later, millions of female teenagers on social media and dating sites are selling nudes and sex for the price of a hamburger through cashapp. I’ve seen several “bring me McDonalds for oral” posts, smh.

Huge win for the Johns of the world, huge loss for parents and society. If you have a teenage daughter I would suggest you start your investigation today...
 
Unintended consequences:

Federal government shuts down and bans Backpage and all internet sites pertaining to prostitution.
Prostitutes invade social media and dating sites advertising for Johns. Feds asleep at the wheel.
Teenage females watch and learn, quickly.
Six months later, millions of female teenagers on social media and dating sites are selling nudes and sex for the price of a hamburger through cashapp. I’ve seen several “bring me McDonalds for oral” posts, smh.

Huge win for the Johns of the world, huge loss for parents and society. If you have a teenage daughter I would suggest you start your investigation today...

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Unintended consequences:

Federal government shuts down and bans Backpage and all internet sites pertaining to prostitution.
Prostitutes invade social media and dating sites advertising for Johns. Feds asleep at the wheel.
Teenage females watch and learn, quickly.
Six months later, millions of female teenagers on social media and dating sites are selling nudes and sex for the price of a hamburger through cashapp. I’ve seen several “bring me McDonalds for oral” posts, smh.

Huge win for the Johns of the world, huge loss for parents and society. If you have a teenage daughter I would suggest you start your investigation today...

When you see a teenage prostitute advertising on the internet, do you report it?
 
Millions?

Well of course I can’t count them all. What I can say is I’m single and in the dating scene and over the past six months it’s gone from zero to hundreds per day.
 
Unintended consequences:

Federal government shuts down and bans Backpage and all internet sites pertaining to prostitution.
Prostitutes invade social media and dating sites advertising for Johns. Feds asleep at the wheel.
Teenage females watch and learn, quickly.
Six months later, millions of female teenagers on social media and dating sites are selling nudes and sex for the price of a hamburger through cashapp. I’ve seen several “bring me McDonalds for oral” posts, smh.

Huge win for the Johns of the world, huge loss for parents and society. If you have a teenage daughter I would suggest you start your investigation today...

That's quite a bit of happy offered in exchange for a Happy Meal.

Watch out for those too good to be true deals...

 
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When you see a teenage prostitute advertising on the internet, do you report it?
Well no, it would be a full time job reporting them all and I already have a job.
 
Well no, it would be a full time job reporting them all and I already have a job.

So you have enough time to complain about it here, but not enough time to complain about it on the phone to the police?

BTW, you do know that you do not have to identify each and every ad? Just tell them the sites, and they can find the ads themselves.

Of do you visit too many sites that have ads for teenage prostitutes in the limited time you have available?
 
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So you have enough time to complain about it here, but not enough time to complain about it on the phone to the police?
You misunderstand, my complaint is that politicians are stupid to think they can be effective against banning prostitution after a thousand years of trying, and every time they do something it has unintended consequences most would deem “worse”. I’m 100% pro legalization of prostitution, it’s not the problem or my complaint. I would certainly support a way to turn in stupid politicians for being stupid if we had a number for that.
 
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You misunderstand, my complaint is that politicians are stupid to think they can be effective against banning prostitution after a thousand years of trying, and every time they do something it has unintended consequences most would deem “worse”. I’m 100% pro legalization of prostitution, and I would support a way to turn n stupid politicians for being stupid.

1) If your issue is prostitution, in general, then why is your thread about teenage prostitution?

2) I doubt that there are many, if any at all, criminal laws that have successfully eliminated any crime. Are you suggesting that we eliminate every criminal law that has not completely eliminated the crime they address?

3) You have presented no evidence that teenage prostitution has gotten worse since Backpage was shutdown, never mind that the cause was due to this shutdown. The only so-called evidence you have presented is your anecdotal experience
 
1) If your issue is prostitution, in general, then why is your thread about teenage prostitution?

2) I doubt that there are many, if any at all, criminal laws that have successfully eliminated any crime. Are you suggesting that we eliminate every criminal law that has not completely eliminated the crime they address?

3) You have presented no evidence that teenage prostitution has gotten worse since Backpage was shutdown, never mind that the cause was due to this shutdown. The only so-called evidence you have presented is your anecdotal experience
1. Again, my issue is with stupid politicians.
2. No, I’m suggesting when they do something stupid, undo it.
3. Correct, it is my observation and observation of people I converse with. Fully concede I could be wrong, but I do not think so.
 
There will *always* be consequences, unintended or otherwise, when government responds to some issue while ignoring the economics of why the issue exists in the first place.

We can argue all day long about why something is or should be illegal, and we can argue all day long about the reasons behind the government forcing the closure of something like this. But until something is done about the economics of why something is happening, the demand suggests those involved will find other means.

While I do not agree, what we are talking about is already illegal (in most places.) It is not rocket science to suggest supply will find alternatives for that demand. As for the social impact when crossing swim lanes into social media and the like, that should surprise no one.
 
You misunderstand, my complaint is that politicians are stupid to think they can be effective against banning prostitution after a thousand years of trying, and every time they do something it has unintended consequences most would deem “worse”. I’m 100% pro legalization of prostitution, it’s not the problem or my complaint. I would certainly support a way to turn in stupid politicians for being stupid if we had a number for that.

Here is my question to you, NoParty: Are you pro-legalization of prostitution because you believe it will help these young girls who are in such desperate straits that they are, as you put it, willing to prostitute themselves for a hamburger? Or is it because you want to help the men who believe they should be entitled to buy the bodies of these young girls more easily and without legal repercussion? In other words, do you see prostitution and conditions leading to many of the young women caught in it as a social ill that needs to be cured, or do you see it as a physical commercial transaction of no greater moral consequence than purchasing the service of a masseuse?

Because if the former, then I applaud your compassion, and I urge you to look at the Swedish Model of prostitution legalization, in which selling sex is legal, but purchasing sex is prohibited. The rates of prostitution have plummeted in Sweden, because the law targets those who demand the sex (i.e., men who think they are entitled to purchase sex and exploit or outright victimize desperate women), but not those often-desperate women who supply the sex.

However, if your reason for supporting prostitution legalization is the latter, then I cannot disagree with you more. I do not believe it is right or proper that we teach our sons that women's bodies are commercial goods to be bought and sold for their pleasure on the market.
 
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Here is my question to you, NoParty: Are you pro-legalization of prostitution because you believe it will help these young girls who are in such desperate straits that they are, as you put it, willing to prostitute themselves for a hamburger? Or is it because you want to help the men who believe they should be entitled to buy the bodies of these young girls more easily and without legal repercussion? In other words, do you see prostitution and conditions leading to many of the young women caught in it as a social ill that needs to be cured, or do you see it as a physical commercial transaction of no greater moral consequence than purchasing the service of a masseuse?

Because if the former, then I applaud your compassion, and I urge you to look at the Swedish Model of prostitution legalization, in which selling sex is legal, but purchasing sex is prohibited. The rates of prostitution have plummeted in Sweden, because the law targets those who demand the sex (i.e., men who think they are entitled to purchase sex and exploit or outright victimize desperate women), but not those often-desperate women who supply the sex.

However, if your reason for supporting prostitution legalization is the latter, then I cannot disagree with you more. I do not believe it is right or proper that we teach our sons that women's bodies are commercial goods to be bought and sold for their pleasure on the market.
I’m not sure why you are assuming they are poor, desperate or anything of the kind. I’m sure that exists but these are kids with iPhones doing this for beer, tree, vape money, boredom, food, sugar daddies, and on and on while sitting out by the parents pool. I’m not trying to be rude or dismiss you, but I think you should research some anonymous posting, dating, and chat apps to actually see what I am referring to.

I’m pro-legalization because I don’t believe the government or anyone has the right to know what anybody does in private. As long as no other citizen is harmed or had their rights infringed upon, of course. So neither to your questions. In other words, I see this as absolutely terrifying as a parent with children, and even more terrifying as a citizen that this has been created by our own government.
 
Unintended consequences:

Federal government shuts down and bans Backpage and all internet sites pertaining to prostitution.
Prostitutes invade social media and dating sites advertising for Johns. Feds asleep at the wheel.
Teenage females watch and learn, quickly.
Six months later, millions of female teenagers on social media and dating sites are selling nudes and sex for the price of a hamburger through cashapp. I’ve seen several “bring me McDonalds for oral” posts, smh.

Huge win for the Johns of the world, huge loss for parents and society. If you have a teenage daughter I would suggest you start your investigation today...

I heard it was actually closer to 300,000,000,000,000,014 female teenagers.
 
I’m not sure why you are assuming they are poor, desperate or anything of the kind. I’m sure that exists but these are kids with iPhones doing this for beer, tree, vape money, boredom, food, sugar daddies, and on and on while sitting out by the parents pool. I’m not trying to be rude or dismiss you, but I think you should research some anonymous posting, dating, and chat apps to actually see what I am referring to.

I’m pro-legalization because I don’t believe the government or anyone has the right to know what anybody does in private. As long as no other citizen is harmed or had their rights infringed upon, of course. So neither to your questions. In other words, I see this as absolutely terrifying as a parent with children, and even more terrifying as a citizen that this has been created by our own government.

Can you tell me more about the research into teenage prostitution that you have done?
 
I’m not sure why you are assuming they are poor, desperate or anything of the kind. I’m sure that exists but these are kids with iPhones doing this for beer, tree, vape money, boredom, food, sugar daddies, and on and on while sitting out by the parents pool. I’m not trying to be rude or dismiss you, but I think you should research some anonymous posting, dating, and chat apps to actually see what I am referring to.

I do not find it dismissive, NoParty. I am willing to take it as read that there are many young girls who come from a position of relative privilege (but few marketable skills on account of their youth) such that they want a little easy money in order to have some thrills and/or purchase a little glamour. I imagine the reasons for them engaging in it are not unlike those of Marie Antoinette when she pretended to be a shepherdess for fun. While I would need to see some hard data to determine whether this number of middle-to-upper-class girls ranges into the millions, I have no doubt that such young women exist.

But I do not find their existence of any greater substance than if I found that some child actors or prostitutes who are in the black market child pornography industry are totally willing and happy participants. I would still want child sexual exploitation illegal, and I would still want purchasing the bodies of women to remain illegal, even if not every prostitute is a desperate victim.

I’m pro-legalization because I don’t believe the government or anyone has the right to know what anybody does in private. As long as no other citizen is harmed or had their rights infringed upon, of course. So neither to your questions. In other words, I see this as absolutely terrifying as a parent with children, and even more terrifying as a citizen that this has been created by our own government.

Perhaps I am misunderstanding you, NoParty. Is it your thesis that these young girls would stop selling their bodies to horny older men who can provide them with the money or goods they desire if the government simply legalized prostitution? How do we get there from here? How is a system in which our children can sell their bodies legally or horny old men can buy their bodies legally any less terrifying? Because at least right now if a parent finds out their child is being prostituted, at the most extreme, a parent can call the cops on the John. What legal recourse do the parents have in a system in which it is permitted?
 
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When you see a teenage prostitute advertising on the internet, do you report it?

I kind of doubt the OP has serious discussion in mind. But, I did see this article from October which points to and intelligently reports on the problem.

https://phys.org/news/2018-10-link-social-media-sex-trafficking.html

The study, which was requested by the Ohio Attorney General's Human Trafficking Commission, reveals how traffickers quickly target and connect with vulnerable children on the Internet through social media.

"It is vitally important to educate parents, professionals and youth—especially our middle school or teenage daughters who may be insecure—about the dangers of online predatory practices used by master manipulators," said Dr. Celia Williamson, UT professor of social work and director of the UT Human Trafficking and Social Justice Institute. "Through this outreach and education, we can help save children from becoming victims of modern-day slavery."

"We know predators are using the internet to find their victims, and this eye-opening study highlights what a predator looks for in a victim and helps parents recognize the signs that their child may be a target," Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine said. "Using real-life examples, this study provides valuable information that parents can use to start open and honest conversations with their children about staying safe online."
 
Can you tell me more about the research into teenage prostitution that you have done?

When I became single I ventured into the online dating scene. I have remained single since and active online for a few years. Recently, I started seeing more and more posts and now to the point of being crazy. Very few even try to hide it, pull up Tinder, boom there it is, “not 25, 17 followed by all the app info you need to contact them and pay. My kid is male and an older teen so I had little worry but I talked with him about. I can’t remember verbatim what he said but it was something like “Welcome to my world”. It wasn’t until recently when I started dating a lady with teenage girls who I discussed with and heavily researched that I understood the full scope of what is going on. It’s like the bracelet colors on steroids.
 
When I became single I ventured into the online dating scene. I have remained single since and active online for a few years. Recently, I started seeing more and more posts and now to the point of being crazy. Very few even try to hide it, pull up Tinder, boom there it is, “not 25, 17 followed by all the app info you need to contact them and pay. My kid is male and an older teen so I had little worry but I talked with him about. I can’t remember verbatim what he said but it was something like “Welcome to my world”. It wasn’t until recently when I started dating a lady with teenage girls who I discussed with and heavily researched that I understood the full scope of what is going on. It’s like the bracelet colors on steroids.

Does Tinder, or these other social media apps, have a way to notify them of inappropriate posts? Most social media does, so I would assume they do.
 
Does Tinder, or these other social media apps, have a way to notify them of inappropriate posts? Most social media does, so I would assume they do.
Some do, some are completely anonymous, some you can block from your view only. It’s the internet, just like some forums are modded with alerts and some are wide open.
 
If the teen is 18 or 19, it's legal in some jurisdictions.
 
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