Teen questioned for online Bush threats (1 Viewer)

[KidRocks]

Gosh, even I know that threatening the president of the United States is federal offense, that young girl should have known, someone should of informed her of that fact. Anyway it's good to see another Bush-basher but it's especially sweet that it has filtered down to our young and impressionable. Can middle-school Bush-bashers be far behind?









http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-10-14-bush-threat_x.htm

SACRAMENTO (AP) — Upset by the war in Iraq, Julia Wilson vented her frustrations with President Bush last spring on her Web page on MySpace.com.

She posted a picture of the president, scrawled "Kill Bush" across the top and drew a dagger stabbing his outstretched hand. She later replaced her page on the social-networking site after learning in her eighth-grade history class that such threats are a federal offense.

It was too late.

Federal authorities had found the page and placed Wilson on their checklist. They finally reached her this week in her molecular biology class.

The 14-year-old freshman was taken out of class Wednesday and questioned for about 15 minutes by two Secret Service agents. The incident has upset her parents, who said the agents should have included them when they questioned their daughter.

On Friday, the teenager said the agents' questioning led her to tears.

"I wasn't dangerous. I mean, look at what's (stenciled) on my backpack — it's a heart. I'm a very peace-loving person," said Wilson, an honor student who describes herself as politically passionate. "I'm against the war in Iraq. I'm not going to kill the president."...

 

[FallingPianos]

dont they got better things to do than go after a 14 year old girl?

 

[TurtleDude]

dont they got better things to do than go after a 14 year old girl?

Yeah right-no one has ever been murdered by a 14 year old. Given the level of insanity caused to the moonbats by Bush Derangement Syndrome, this sort of stuff will happen more often as whacked out losers pretending to be parents will vent their hysterical hate of Bush around their kids and the offspring of such n nutcases might try to act out their parent's irrationality

 

[Morrow]

I don't understand the history behind threatening the president as being a federal offense. That doesn't make any sense where free speech is supposed to a constitutional right. And why just the president, why not members of congress, or anyone?

 

[KidRocks]

I don't understand the history behind threatening the president as being a federal offense. That doesn't make any sense where free speech is supposed to a constitutional right. And why just the president, why not members of congress, or anyone?

Members of congress are a dime a dozen, you and I are even cheaper, that's why.

 

[Zyphlin]

Technically I believe threatening death upon ANYONE is against the law.

The President is the chief executive of the country, and is not bound to a particular "state", thus making it a federal issue.

Include on top of that, that since it is the president, such would likely be looked at more seriously and verging on threats of treason. Killing a sitting president WOULD be more impactful to the country as a whole then killing joe average guy. You might find that as being a bit callous, but you can't tell me its not true.

I'm actually happy to see that our SS is on the ball. I would guess that if they're questioning a 14 year old girl over something like this that its far from thier ONLY thing they're checking into...espicially since it hints that this was a while coming and she was down on a list.

And good job Rocks. Lets keep pushing the thought that its okay to call for the death of the United States president is a good thing for kids too do. Bravo

 

[Zyphlin]

I don't understand the history behind threatening the president as being a federal offense. That doesn't make any sense where free speech is supposed to a constitutional right. And why just the president, why not members of congress, or anyone?[/QUOTE

People really, really try to take this free speech thing too far. Guess you've never heard of slander laws? Threats? Hate Speech? City Ordinances concerning language?

Freedom of Speech is not the right to make threats on peoples lives, incite crimes to take place, cause harm to others, etc. Its the ability to speak your mind, your ideas, and your beliefs without being placed in prison as long as those things do not infringe upon other peoples rights.

Free Speech wouldn't protect me from going around every place in my town, into the papers, and on TV, stating that my neighbor rapes babies on a daily basis. Its slander. As well, Free Speech doesn't enable you to make threats upon other people's person.

 

[RightinNYC]

It's odd that this is even news. Basically, a dumb kid who didn't know better said some stuff she shouldn't have said, and two SS agents who knew she didn't know any better sat her down in a Scared Straight sort of moment. It happens all the time. Big whoop.

 

[aps]

It's odd that this is even news. Basically, a dumb kid who didn't know better said some stuff she shouldn't have said, and two SS agents who knew she didn't know any better sat her down in a Scared Straight sort of moment. It happens all the time. Big whoop.

Well, in some ways, it will teach others what NOT to do.

 

[Kelzie]

I find it kinda humourous. Kids are so stupid these days. It warms my heart to see one of them scared to tears.

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally Posted by Morrow
I don't understand the history behind threatening the president as being a federal offense. That doesn't make any sense where free speech is supposed to a constitutional right. And why just the president, why not members of congress, or anyone?

You can't be serious. You do not threaten the President, period. You do not threaten anyone, period. I hope the Secret Service had a talk with those two failures that call themselves parents of that teenager.

You do not threaten the President!

 

[CoffeeSaint]

I think the interresting element of this is how it shows the impact that MySpace/blogging/internet forums are having on our society. What this girl wrote was a diary entry, it sounds like; at any other time in the last hundred years or so, this would have been locked up in her secret hiding place, or at worst, doodled on a piece of paper in class and passed to a friend. And the worst that could have happened to her was the teacher finding it and the principal telling her parents.

Now, even though this is still effectively a diary entry -- an expression of her personal feelings and frustrations as a way to vent -- it was accessible to the entire electronic world; the Secret Service are the ones who have to catch her and lecture her, instead of the teacher/principal/parents. In addition, this embarrassing little episode becomes news, and she becomes the focus of online discussions like this one.

Everything we say has more impact now. The audience for our very thoughts is global. At the same time, however, our every day thoughts no longer stand out; they are not as special as they should be, as they would be, if we were not pasting them up on a wall for anyone to read. Our thoughts are now in a competitive market, and they will have to change to meet the demands, if we want them to succeed. That is what MySpace is: it's a market for teenaged thoughts, and negative publicity or not, this girl's thoughts just became a hot commodity. Did she know that when she posted it? Was she selling her thoughts intentionally? Now that she has learned this lesson, and taught it to her peers, will they begin selling similar thoughts?

 

[ProudAmerican]

I don't understand the history behind threatening the president as being a federal offense. That doesn't make any sense where free speech is supposed to a constitutional right. And why just the president, why not members of congress, or anyone?

along with freedom comes responsibility. free speech does not mean you can say anything, about anyone, at any time, in any place.

 

[Navy Pride]

Its very sad to see a young girl like this brianwashed by our Liberal educational system........Unfortunately it happens a lot but as they grow older, wiser and more responsible and lean towards a more moderate thinking.......

 

[KidRocks]

Technically I believe threatening death upon ANYONE is against the law.

The President is the chief executive of the country, and is not bound to a particular "state", thus making it a federal issue.

Include on top of that, that since it is the president, such would likely be looked at more seriously and verging on threats of treason. Killing a sitting president WOULD be more impactful to the country as a whole then killing joe average guy. You might find that as being a bit callous, but you can't tell me its not true.

I'm actually happy to see that our SS is on the ball. I would guess that if they're questioning a 14 year old girl over something like this that its far from thier ONLY thing they're checking into...espicially since it hints that this was a while coming and she was down on a list.

And good job Rocks. Lets keep pushing the thought that its okay to call for the death of the United States president is a good thing for kids too do. Bravo

Where did I say it's ok to call for the death of the POTUS, where did you read that?

Show me now, show me the quote.

You sir are a liar and you know it. :liar2

 

[Gardener]

Its very sad to see a young girl like this brianwashed by our Liberal educational system........Unfortunately it happens a lot but as they grow older, wiser and more responsible and lean towards a more moderate thinking.......

I am happy to read that you are setting a moderate course for yourself.

This will start when?

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally Posted by Navy Pride
Its very sad to see a young girl like this brianwashed by our Liberal educational system........Unfortunately it happens a lot but as they grow older, wiser and more responsible and lean towards a more moderate thinking.......

You mean more centrist thinking?

I'll bet you a one week avatar that the Ram's
finish with a better record than the Steelers.

 

[PeteEU]

Its very sad to see a young girl like this brianwashed by our Liberal educational system........Unfortunately it happens a lot but as they grow older, wiser and more responsible and lean towards a more moderate thinking.......

So you are saying that the whole education system in the US is "liberal"? Even private schools? Note, there is no mention of what kind of school she was in.

Also not that not the whole article was quoted and hence is some what miss leading. The case was dropped or so it seems and the Secret Service are accused of being heavy handed. Something the poster failed to mention.

But its good to see the Secret Service doing there job in preventing teenage assasins in going after the President of the US.. I just hope they are also going after the real threats instead of this laughable one.

As for threatning the US President... if thats a "crime" then damn there are a lot of people in the US and around the world that are "in trouble".. we are talking billions.

 

[KidRocks]

Its very sad to see a young girl like this brianwashed by our Liberal educational system........Unfortunately it happens a lot but as they grow older, wiser and more responsible and lean towards a more moderate thinking.......

I don't think it's our educational system at all, in fact I'm positive it's not, it's more like President Bush's fault for setting a poor example as a President, as a human,

This young lady obviously saw, read, and witnessed the lies of the Bush administration, their cold, callous attitude towards dissenters and anyone who dare speak out against President Bush, she see's the scandoulous Republican "culture of corruption" on a daily basis and she see's the needless deaths of our brave soldiers in Iraq not to mention the chaos (death and destruction) there.

This young lady made a mistake, corrected it, and it's obviously she is bright, energetic and will probably be POTUS some day!

 

[Billo_Really]

Originally posted by KidRocks
I don't think it's our educational system at all, in fact I'm positive it's not, it's more like President Bush's fault for setting a poor example as a President, as a human,

This young lady obviously saw, read, and witnessed the lies of the Bush administration, their cold, callous attitude towards dissenters and anyone who dare speak out against President Bush, she see's the scandoulous Republican "culture of corruption" on a daily basis and she see's the needless deaths of our brave soldiers in Iraq not to mention the chaos (death and destruction) there.

This young lady made a mistake, corrected it, and it's obviously she is bright, energetic and will probably be POTUS some day!

Bush has done nothing in office that would justify a death threat!

 

[aps]

Its very sad to see a young girl like this brianwashed by our Liberal educational system........Unfortunately it happens a lot but as they grow older, wiser and more responsible and lean towards a more moderate thinking.......

Come on, Navy Pride, are you able to condemn or comment on the acts of someone without making a derogatory remark about liberals? Show us that you have the level of intelligence to do such.

 

[Sponge4u]

The SS is just doing thier job. Nothing political about it.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I find it kinda humourous. Kids are so stupid these days. It warms my heart to see one of them scared to tears.

You're gettin old.

haha