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WOMEN teachers at Al-Madinah School in Derby claim they are being told to cover their heads and shoulders with a hijab – an Islamic scarf – whether or not they are Muslim.
This is one of several complaints made by staff to their unions at Al-Madinah School, which is currently under investigation by the Education Funding Agency for alleged irregularities over its grants.
Teachers at Al-Madinah Muslim school in Derby claim they have been ordered to wear the hijab | This is Derbyshire

Teacher: I quit Derby's Al-Madinah School over Muslim dress code | This is Derbyshire


Whom in their right mind would send their kids to a school that is named: al-madinah; I mean seriously. You'd expect them to have some arabic influence and why would you want influences from a culture who produces less cultural and scientific output, all the islamic world combined, than Oxford university alone. You have to be at least a cretin.


EDIT: Admins, can you please remove the: Read more: http:// bla bla from the title. I didn't notice when I posted the story that the website automatically fills itself in with every desperate chance it gets like a horny cougar on the pool-boy.
 
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Teachers at Al-Madinah Muslim school in Derby claim they have been ordered to wear the hijab | This is Derbyshire

Teacher: I quit Derby's Al-Madinah School over Muslim dress code | This is Derbyshire


Whom in their right mind would send their kids to a school that is named: al-madinah; I mean seriously. You'd expect them to have some arabic influence and why would you want influences from a culture who produces less cultural and scientific output, all the islamic world combined, than Oxford university alone. You have to be at least a cretin.


EDIT: Admins, can you please remove the: Read more: http:// bla bla from the title. I didn't notice when I posted the story that the website automatically fills itself in with every desperate chance it gets like a horny cougar on the pool-boy.

Mindless defense to follow in 5.......4......3......2......
 
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Mindless defense to follow in 5.......4......3......2......

You may well be surprised :)

Paul
 
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You may well be surprised :)

Paul

The real question for debate is how long before Ofsted put this "school" into special measures for breaking all sorts of equality laws and worse still - debasing 100 years of female rights in the classroom.
The only reason I guess Michael Gove won't close this school down is because he has pushed the American idea of "charter" or "free schools" so hard on us that a group of backwards muslims trying to run a 10th century "school" on tax payer's money won't show him how horrible the idea of free schools are.

Scotland has done the right thing by not allowing muslim faith schools to open anywhere in her borders; the idea hasn't matured enough to trust such schools to operate within western standards.
 
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I wouldn't imagine any reasonable person would consider that to be ok and something that should be tolerated.
 
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Such schools should not even be allowed.. muslim or christian.. they are brainwashing schools not leaning schools.. and this backwards 16th century idea proves it...
 
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The dress code is a minor issue, the bit that ****s me is this:

and that girls are told to sit at the back of classes.

Seriously, why the **** are people focusing on the dress code when the place is enforcing misogyny?
 
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The dress code is a minor issue, the bit that ****s me is this:

Seriously, why the **** are people focusing on the dress code when the place is enforcing misogyny?

the dress code is part of the whole misogynistic view of the school and of islam and it is a tool used to get away with such acts as to force the girls to sit in the back of the class.
 
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the dress code is part of the whole misogynistic view of the school and of islam and it is a tool used to get away with such acts as to force the girls to sit in the back of the class.

Well if this school had not been in a western country, there would be no girls.
 
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Teachers at Al-Madinah Muslim school in Derby claim they have been ordered to wear the hijab | This is Derbyshire

Teacher: I quit Derby's Al-Madinah School over Muslim dress code | This is Derbyshire


Whom in their right mind would send their kids to a school that is named: al-madinah; I mean seriously. You'd expect them to have some arabic influence and why would you want influences from a culture who produces less cultural and scientific output, all the islamic world combined, than Oxford university alone. You have to be at least a cretin.


EDIT: Admins, can you please remove the: Read more: http:// bla bla from the title. I didn't notice when I posted the story that the website automatically fills itself in with every desperate chance it gets like a horny cougar on the pool-boy.

The UK is debating Muslim issues incessantly, at the moment. ALL things Muslim is under the microscope, only today:

More than a quarter of 18 to 24-year-olds in Britain do not trust Muslims, a BBC Radio 1 Newsbeat poll suggests.

Of the 1,000 young people questioned, 28% said Britain would be better off with fewer Muslims, while 44% said Muslims did not share the same values as the rest of the population.

Some 60% thought the British public had a negative image of Muslims.

And what is most important for me:

Akeela Ahmed, from the Cross-government Working Group on Anti-Muslim Hatred, said: "These findings indicate that we need to ensure young people are mixing at local levels and that they're working on projects together so that people can get to know Muslims and vice versa."

BBC - Newsbeat - Quarter of young British people 'do not trust Muslims'

Paul
 
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while 44% said Muslims did not share the same values as the rest of the population.

Interestingly enough, this is very similar to the percentage of Muslims who want Britain to be governed by Sharia law........ and ironic,as well, how the article displays the image of two women who most obviously DON'T share the same values as the rest of the population while blathering away about "Islamophobia".
 
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Interestingly enough, this is very similar to the percentage of Muslims who want Britain to be governed by Sharia law.

Many commentators are now pointing towards the media, and suggesting the media is at fault over how it's reporting issues to do with Muslims, and are distorting the issue .I feel the issue is more complex, but we are definitely addressing the issue!

Paul
 
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The UK is debating Muslim issues incessantly, at the moment. ALL things Muslim is under the microscope, only today:

More than a quarter of 18 to 24-year-olds in Britain do not trust Muslims, a BBC Radio 1 Newsbeat poll suggests.

Of the 1,000 young people questioned, 28% said Britain would be better off with fewer Muslims, while 44% said Muslims did not share the same values as the rest of the population.

Some 60% thought the British public had a negative image of Muslims.

And what is most important for me:

Akeela Ahmed, from the Cross-government Working Group on Anti-Muslim Hatred, said: "These findings indicate that we need to ensure young people are mixing at local levels and that they're working on projects together so that people can get to know Muslims and vice versa."

BBC - Newsbeat - Quarter of young British people 'do not trust Muslims'

Paul

British people don't need to become more "muslim" and adopt muslim values. it is muslim values that make the muslim world less scientifically literate than the university of oxford alone and if they didn't have oil, the wealth underneath their feet, they'd be poor as hell.
It's not british people who need to learn how to stone women or kill them for adultery.
 
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Many commentators are now pointing towards the media, and suggesting the media is at fault over how it's reporting issues to do with Muslims, and are distorting the issue .I feel the issue is more complex, but we are definitely addressing the issue!

Paul

One cannot simultaneously address an issue while pretending it doesn't exist.
 
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One cannot simultaneously address an issue while pretending it doesn't exist.

That depends entirely on what we define as, the problem...

Paul
 
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-- Akeela Ahmed, from the Cross-government Working Group on Anti-Muslim Hatred, said: "These findings indicate that we need to ensure young people are mixing at local levels and that they're working on projects together so that people can get to know Muslims and vice versa --
Thanks for posting this, I read the article a day or so ago when it first appeared on Newsbeat.What I am in total disagreement is Akeela Ahmed's statement; I know many in the muslim community have moved mountains to integrate and that is not reported but when there are examples like the recent case where a muslim woman refused to remove her niqab to give evidence, or where Birmingham College was forced into a u-turn on policy regarding Niqab's on college grounds (and in classes) then I can totally understand why young people are beginning to harden their view on muslim integration. Worse still - this example of an American style "free-school" which was just begging for the idea to be abused by a faith school.I'm afraid I wasn't surprised to read it was a muslim school that was trying to enforce sexual discrimination and inequality. I don't want us to enforce a ban on clothing in public areas but common sense by the firebrands in the muslim community is much needed. They are not helping the cause of the majority who are integrating and not wearing niqabs in defiance of the greater culture and community.
 
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The real question for debate is how long before Ofsted put this "school" into special measures for breaking all sorts of equality laws and worse still - debasing 100 years of female rights in the classroom--

Ofsted inspection of this school imminent if not actually happening this week, alongside investigation by the Education Funding Agency.
 
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Ofsted inspection of this school imminent if not actually happening this week, alongside investigation by the Education Funding Agency.

LOL - Inspection is happening today and tomorrow - a notice on the school website announces a full Ofsted inspection - right next to an announcement that -

Al-Madinah School said:
Short term closure
Owing to a health and safety issue, I have taken the decision to close the school to primary and secondary pupils until I am confident that all children are safe on site.
As parents, you will be informed directly, and on the website, when you are able to send your children back to school. I expect this to be in the very near future.

Very handy that a sudden health & safety alert and subsequent closure of primary and secondary classes has happened right now..

Or am I being too suspicious at just how timely the issue is?
 
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Very handy that a sudden health & safety alert and subsequent closure of primary and secondary classes has happened right now..

Or am I being too suspicious at just how timely the issue is?

Nope!
 
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LOL - Inspection is happening today and tomorrow - a notice on the school website announces a full Ofsted inspection - right next to an announcement that -



Very handy that a sudden health & safety alert and subsequent closure of primary and secondary classes has happened right now..

Or am I being too suspicious at just how timely the issue is?

How very convenient.

Paul
 
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The present school's fate seems to be sealed.

Al-Madinah Derby Muslim free school 'rated inadequate'.

A Muslim free school in Derby is expected to be rated as inadequate in all areas, the BBC understands.

The Al-Madinah school closed on Tuesday after one day of an Ofsted inspection over "health and safety concerns".

Sources said this was due to incomplete records of child protection checks being done on all staff. The school said it will reopen on Monday.

While the Ofsted report has not been finalised, preliminary findings have given it the lowest possible rating. Link

As for Charter or Free Schools, only the govt and Michael Gove seem so keen- especially when the principle can become abused by Faith based schools.

Regional Officer for the National Union of Teachers, Nick Raine, said they only had a handful of members in the school but all had complained about various issues at Al-Madinah.

"There were concerns about some of the things going on in the classroom, concerns about the quality of the education the children were getting," he said.

"Our members are very concerned about children as a whole and obviously took this job thinking it was a new and exciting school.

"We did say, being a free school, it's a completely different paradigm and we are very worried this is going to be run out across the country.

"It's an experiment on our children's education."

I've definitely switched over to the anti-Faith school argument. Goes hard against my libertarian instinct but the children involved have no say and no choice in their education - the adults make the decisions and as this example shows, adults cannot always be trusted to do best for the children in their charge.
 
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The present school's fate seems to be sealed.



As for Charter or Free Schools, only the govt and Michael Gove seem so keen- especially when the principle can become abused by Faith based schools.



I've definitely switched over to the anti-Faith school argument. Goes hard against my libertarian instinct but the children involved have no say and no choice in their education - the adults make the decisions and as this example shows, adults cannot always be trusted to do best for the children in their charge.

Like you IC, I've been following this story intensely and I now feel Gove has some explaining to do. Unlike yourself I have never been very keen on this kind of school policy.

Paul
 
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Teachers at Al-Madinah Muslim school in Derby claim they have been ordered to wear the hijab | This is Derbyshire

Teacher: I quit Derby's Al-Madinah School over Muslim dress code | This is Derbyshire


Whom in their right mind would send their kids to a school that is named: al-madinah; I mean seriously. You'd expect them to have some arabic influence and why would you want influences from a culture who produces less cultural and scientific output, all the islamic world combined, than Oxford university alone. You have to be at least a cretin.


EDIT: Admins, can you please remove the: Read more: http:// bla bla from the title. I didn't notice when I posted the story that the website automatically fills itself in with every desperate chance it gets like a horny cougar on the pool-boy.
True...but a school named "Funky Cold Medinah"...now...that would be aiiiiiiight....
 
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Like you IC, I've been following this story intensely and I now feel Gove has some explaining to do. Unlike yourself I have never been very keen on this kind of school policy.

Paul

I don't know what I thought about Charter or Free schools originally so I guess you mean Faith Schools; yeah - it's a shame one religious group is spoiling the idea of religious education for others. I'm aware I'm broadbrushing islamic schools here but the recent experience of madrassars in the UK as well as schools like Al-Madinah shows that the principle of faith schools has serious problems.

If Alexa is correct and Scotland has not allowed any muslim faith schools to open, that shows one way of dealing with the problem - Scotland's muslims have tended to be better integrated in society there (that doesn't mean 100% integration). There is only one Jewish school in Scotland but there also haven't been any problems. There are however lots of Church of Scotland schools (Catholic and Protestant as well as others) and we see the "benefits" in continued religious strife in Glasgow as well as rural religious strife between christian branches of society.

True...but a school named "Funky Cold Medinah"...now...that would be aiiiiiiight....


Clever.


 
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If Alexa is correct and Scotland has not allowed any muslim faith schools to open, that shows one way of dealing with the problem - Scotland's muslims have tended to be better integrated in society there (that doesn't mean 100% integration).

No State schools but there have been private schools which generally have not lived up to standards. A couple of years ago one in Dundee was closed for poor standard of teaching and keeping the children apart from society. That seems to be where we are stronger than in England. I once perused s Scottish Muslim site interested in State Muslim schools - funnily enough their biggest complaint seemed to be 'we all know what it is like to come home and find the sign 'KEEP OUT' on our children's bedroom doors. They also particularly wanted a state school as they felt money had stopped them being able to provide sufficiently good teachers before.

However a search has shown that a new Private Muslim school is opening in Glasgow to the usual concerns of dividing the community. They will need to have learned from previous experience and have managed to get good teachers as well as making the effort to build up good relations with the rest of the community and integrating their children in it. It is up to them.

New school is a first for Scottish Muslims | UK | News | Daily Express
 
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