• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Teacher Beheaded in Paris Suburb After Showing Cartoons of Prophet Mohammad in Class

Environment Of Terror – 75% Would Not Publicly Post Mahomed Caricatures With Their Name, Address
By P Gosselin on 21. October 2020

Share this...
Share on FacebookTweet about this on Twitter
Last week the beheading of a French school teacher by an Islamic terrorist in broad daylight shocked the world. Barbaric attacks on free speech and the exchange of ideas are taking place in Europe. Similar acts have occurred in other western countries in recent years.
The grisly death of the French teacher sends a clear message: Western citizens cannot feel safe expressing their views, not even at home – on their very own soil. Our governments have failed.
At Twitter I started an unofficial small survey, below, to get an idea of the extent of fear people harbor when it comes to expressing controversial views. According to Google Analytics, the vast majority of the readers at this site reside in Europe and North America.
The results, though not representative, are somewhat shocking. 75% say they would not post the Mahomed caricatures together with their name and address because they fear retaliation. This, in their home countries. . . .
 
A teacher is beheaded, and France's war over secularism, freedom of speech and religious equality reignites

Fieschi said secularist laws had been intensifying since 1989. She believes Macron's decision to crack down on extremists may be a positive move for most French Muslims, as the government is opting to focus on extremist organizations and hate speech, rather than community integration.
"Macron has moved increasingly onto this territory since the summer," she said. "He has shifted to talking about separatism, not integration. They're not attacking the communities but these [...] vectors of hate, that are seeking to undermine these communities. They're not mentioning integration, that's not the conversation.

Interesting how different places respond to terrorist attacks.
 
Wait... free to behead people in the street?

millions dont behead any one but if any of them Muslims do we must keep all of them Muslims out
 
millions dont behead any one but if any of them Muslims do we must keep all of them Muslims out
2015 Bataclan attack- 130, mostly young people killed
2016 Nice attack- 84 killed, including children
2017- multiple attacks, police killed, French symbols targeted
2018 Strasbourg Christmas attack- 5 killed, a dozen wounded
2019 Lyon bomb attack- a dozen wounded, youngest is 10

Now, if these had been white supremacist attacks instead of radical Islamic inspired attacks, you would be swinging from the chandeliers in outrage. Muslims constitute no more than 5-7% of France, and if this population is allowed to grow, their violence and stupidity will permeate every avenue of life in France.
 
millions dont behead any one but if any of them Muslims do we must keep all of them Muslims out
If you say so. France isn't saying that. They are talking about separation, apparently
 
The reputation of Muslims is being tarnished by the few extremists. At least 99% of all Muslims in France are totally safe, we should be concerned about the remaining percentage. It's not like all Muslims are bad just because a few are.
 
The reputation of Muslims is being tarnished by the few extremists. At least 99% of all Muslims in France are totally safe, we should be concerned about the remaining percentage. It's not like all Muslims are bad just because a few are.
According to Pew, 1 in 4 Muslims living in western countries believe suicide bombers are ok if the situation calls for it. The white liberal rationale for Muslim migration doesn't include any facts, just generalities and emotional blockage.
 
The reputation of Muslims is being tarnished by the few extremists. At least 99% of all Muslims in France are totally safe, we should be concerned about the remaining percentage. It's not like all Muslims are bad just because a few are.

When 15 people have been arrested so far with more expected including four of the headless horseman's students, I doubt your made-up numbers.
 
You mean like this .........?

2:216 "Fighting is prescribed for you".
2:244 "And fight in the cause of Allah".
8:39 "Fight them until there is no fitnah and the religion, all of it, is for Allah".
8:65 "O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight".
3:142 "Do you think that you will enter Paradise while Allah has not yet made evident those of you who fight in His cause".
3:169 "Never think of those who have been killed in the cause of Allah as dead".
4:74 "Let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward".
4:76 "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan".
4:84 "Fight then in Allah's way".
61:4 "Allah loves those who fight in His way in ranks as if they were a firm and compact wall".
61:11 "Have faith in God and His Messenger and strive hard for His cause with your wealth and your persons".
9:29 "Fight those who believe not in Allah".

There are more, but they can all be summed up by verse 9:111 - "Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allah's Cause, so they kill and are killed".

These verse, and others like them, are the reason Islamic jihad (we call it terrorism) exists.

Would you like some Old Testament quotes?
 
The flaw in your comparison is that people who call themselves Christians and also commit murder are simply criminals. They're not killing anyone in the name of Christianity or in compliance with anything Jesus was supposed to have done or said.

I'm sure the murder victims find that distinction meaningful.
 
2015 Bataclan attack- 130, mostly young people killed
2016 Nice attack- 84 killed, including children
2017- multiple attacks, police killed, French symbols targeted
2018 Strasbourg Christmas attack- 5 killed, a dozen wounded
2019 Lyon bomb attack- a dozen wounded, youngest is 10

Now, if these had been white supremacist attacks instead of radical Islamic inspired attacks, you would be swinging from the chandeliers in outrage. Muslims constitute no more than 5-7% of France, and if this population is allowed to grow, their violence and stupidity will permeate every avenue of life in France.

How many dead at the hands of Christians before we make it so Christians aren't allowed to have children anymore? Can't let the population grow, after all.
 
Would you like some Old Testament quotes?
Quote the Old Testament, and then link us to cases of Christian terrorism from the 21st century committed because of those quotes. Can't do that? Its because you have no point. Christians are not killing people today over their holy book.
 
Quote the Old Testament, and then link us to cases of Christian terrorism from the 21st century committed because of those quotes. Can't do that? Its because you have no point. Christians are not killing people today over their holy book.

But the words in the book are important. You said the words were important.

Now they're not important? Just the actions?
 
How many dead at the hands of Christians before we make it so Christians aren't allowed to have children anymore? Can't let the population grow, after all.
Muslims can grow their population all they like, granted they do so in their own countries.

I believe we've obliged the far left and their inane theories long enough. It's time to stop mincing words with people who recite Koch Brothers propaganda.
 
But the words in the book are important. You said the words were important.

Now they're not important? Just the actions?
The argument here, as its been well presented elsewhere, is that there is a stark difference between Christians and Muslims in the 21st century, and that the difference is too great to ignore, or simply live with.
Muslims kill in the name of their prophet and religion, while Christians do not. You will not overshadow this fundamental fact by bashing the Christian holy book again, sorry.
 
Muslims can grow their population all they like, granted they do so in their own countries.

I believe we've obliged the far left and their inane theories long enough. It's time to stop mincing words with people who recite Koch Brothers propaganda.

Says a guy pretending to live in America.
 
The argument here, as its been well presented elsewhere, is that there is a stark difference between Christians and Muslims in the 21st century, and that the difference is too great to ignore, or simply live with.
Muslims kill in the name of their prophet and religion, while Christians do not. You will not overshadow this fundamental fact by bashing the Christian holy book again, sorry.

You dodged. Is it the words in the book, or the actions of the people? Both groups have terrible things in the book, but you don't care. So is it the actions? It's a simple question.
 
Would you like some Old Testament quotes?

Why? Would that change anything I quoted or the fact that the Muslims who commit acts of terrorism draw on them for instruction and inspiration?
 
Why? Would that change anything I quoted or the fact that the Muslims who commit acts of terrorism draw on them for instruction and inspiration?

What's the problem? It's ok to quote the Quran but not the Old Testament? Why? Are the words in the books important to judging the followers of said book or not? That's the question I want answered, how come conservatives keep dodging it?
 
Says a guy pretending to live in America.

Haha. Yes, that's your logic on display for all to marvel at. 'Americans don't really believe in this stuff...garf gosh dang.'
It turns out American law was opposed to immigration from the Islamic world for nearly 200 years. Your version of America has existed for precisely 55 years. Did you know that?
 
You dodged. Is it the words in the book, or the actions of the people? Both groups have terrible things in the book, but you don't care. So is it the actions? It's a simple question.

The actions of the people are based on the words in the book. The Old Testament was superceded by the New Testament.
 
2015 Bataclan attack- 130, mostly young people killed
2016 Nice attack- 84 killed, including children
2017- multiple attacks, police killed, French symbols targeted
2018 Strasbourg Christmas attack- 5 killed, a dozen wounded
2019 Lyon bomb attack- a dozen wounded, youngest is 10

Now, if these had been white supremacist attacks instead of radical Islamic inspired attacks, you would be swinging from the chandeliers in outrage. Muslims constitute no more than 5-7% of France, and if this population is allowed to grow, their violence and stupidity will permeate every avenue of life in France.
no i would not be saying we need to keep white people out of the country because of white supremacists
 
What's the problem? It's ok to quote the Quran but not the Old Testament? Why? Are the words in the books important to judging the followers of said book or not? That's the question I want answered, how come conservatives keep dodging it?

In case it escaped your notice, the killer was a Muslim acting on behalf of his religion. If you want to start a thread comparing the bible to the qur'an, please do so and I'll join in. In the meantime, any further attempts to highjack this thread will be ignored.
 
This isn't 2007 bro nobody cares about this racist crap anymore.

Bullshit **** the Muslims. Delusional to think that the thousands of years of Christians v Muslims is over, it’s still just beginning
 
Oh, look -- it's the Religion of Peace™ again:






The solution to all this barbarism is obviously more immigration and muzzling of critics by branding them as the real "intolerants" -- NOT!!!

So what is your solution? Bomb the middle east into oblivion?
 
Back
Top Bottom