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Taliban say they now control 85% of Afghanistan's territory

Breaking news - Afghans run Afghanistan
Can you prove that all the current members of the Taliban are Afghan? For all we know, there are jihadists from other areas of the world in their ranks.
 
MOSCOW (AP) — The Taliban claimed on Friday that they now control 85% of Afghanistan’s territory amid a surge in wins on the ground and as American troops complete their pullout from the war-battered country.

The announcement came at a press conference at the end of a visit by a senior Taliban delegation to Moscow this week — a trip meant to offer assurances that the insurgents’ quick gains in Afghanistan do not threaten Russia or its allies in Central Asia.


The first Biden did was shut down American oil and gas exploration to give all that national wealth to Russia. Next, he lifted sanctions to give Russia all of the EU's gas and oil business - trillions for his pal Putin and Russia.

He also ordered shutting down gas pipeline and pushing ending using fossil fuels - as all energy costs to Americans - and pushing electric cars - to benefit China by giving China a massive low energy costs for their industries and people - as China is building dozens of new coal burn plants.

He is open that he will allow Iran to get nuclear warheads to put on their missiles.

Did anyone doubt he would give Afghanistan to the Taliban?

It seems obvious he will comply with his instructions from Kim Jung Un

Biden is the most traitorous president possible, essentially a foreign agent of Russia and China. It's just a lie to fly the American flag over the White House. It should be the Chinese flag above the Russian flag, and the White House should be painted red. Stop the lies. He is converting the USA to being nothing but one of China's provinces, while completely rebuilding Russia's economy - and therefore military - ultimately trillions from the American economy to the Russian economy. He gave Russia control of world oil and therefore energy, and is giving China the last of American industry.

Basically the future of the USA is that economy is Big Tech, Amazon, WalMart and other big box international companies - all of which are the advertising agencies and retailers for Chinese products made in Chinese factories in joint Chinese plutocrats - American plutocrats global monopoly. The guardians of freedom, the middle merchant class, was destroyed by the covid-19 bioterrorism campaign on TV, in newspapers and and online - that the plutocrats 90+% control. The propaganda was that all small low traffic businesses must be ordered illegal and permanently eliminated (over half a million so far) - claiming you are not safe unless packed into a WalMart, other big box store, or from Amazon Prime with 20,000 covid-19 postive employees mailing covid 19 all over the country. In fact, they would get covid-19 to you often within a day to assure maximum remaining covid-19 on the packaging and product.

You may want to convert any money and accounts you have to necessities of life. Inflation is going to erase money and savings. Also liquidate stock, that will not be able to keep up with increasing inflation rates. It isn't long before the world and petro monetary system will not longer be the American dollar. When that happened the value of the dollar falls thru the floor - permanently - and there is no domestic production to even try to fall back on. The USA already is a beggar to China for goods and products paid for on IOUs and by American land and businesses.

BIden fully surrendered to Russia and China, the easiest colonization of another country probably in known history.
And trump surrendered to Erdogan and left the kurds guarding our terrorist prisoners THOUSANDS OF THEM letting them back on the battlefield. ALSO YOU KNOW TRUMP WOULD HAVE PULLED OUT OF AFGHANASTAN AS WELL - GET REAL.
 
If people didn't want Biden to end Trump's Forever Wars they would've voted for Trump. As it is, Landslide Biden is finally bringing our boys home.
Trump started the war in Afghanistan? I had no idea he was Prez back in 2001! Damn....you learn something new every day!
 
Can you prove that all the current members of the Taliban are Afghan? For all we know, there are jihadists from other areas of the world in their ranks.

No need to move the goalposts. It's a simple google search away, but there are books out there as well.

The vast majority are from Afghanistan, yes with some Pakistanis since the Pashtun regions cross the border into North West Frontier Province, though its hard to call them 'foreign' in that sense. There have always been a handful of foreign jihadis in the movement, but at its core and in its leadership, it is a local movement. This is fairly common knowledge to anyone who's studied or read up, or been over there as either a journalist or doctor or aid worker or soldier for that matter because its their books and articles we read anyway.

In any case it is hardly incumbent on little old me out here on the internet to pwove there are no foreign Taliban at all, whatsoever, and it would hardly be relevant.

Now if it's really foreign jihadis you're looking for,ISIS has been making inroads in Afghanistan and the Taliban have actually been fighting them. not that either are a particularly nice bunch but here's the thing about the Taliban - it's their country. They were there before in one form or another, will be there after, and it's not called the Graveyard of Empires for nothing.

The West tried for twenty years to rein it in, that's long enough. Might as well let the country sort itself out because apparently all the king's horses and all the king's men and two decades of occupation couldn't do it for them. We'll always be there anyway, backing one warlord or arming another or selling planes to the government, just as it has always been.

 
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What were the Trump republicans here saying about Syria not long ago?
 
GOP is worse than taliban
No, they are not. That kind of divisive language is exactly the same as Trump liked to use. Why do you want to be like Trump?
 
No, they are not. That kind of divisive language is exactly the same as Trump liked to use. Why do you want to be like Trump?
Wouldn't expect a self-proclaimed fascist to understand. Are you sure you aren't a trumper yourself?
 
Do you want to strawman? I can ask strawman questions.
Just a question…You seem to want the taxpayer to give up/pay for more and more…So, I was just curious…
 
Just a question…You seem to want the taxpayer to give up/pay for more and more…So, I was just curious…
Ok. I don't support a 100 percent tax rate.
 
In a country where, even under the Americans, Sharia law was in force... um... are you serious?
A democracy only for men from destroyed clans? This is something new.
Afghanistan is a deeply religious country, what kind of democracy are we talking about?

A one size fits all, set of laws, that you would enforce on Iraq and Afghanistan, all the same. Going to elections for all levels of government, very many times. Keeping them busy with it. And then leave after 2 years maximum.
 
MOSCOW (AP) — The Taliban claimed on Friday that they now control 85% of Afghanistan’s territory amid a surge in wins on the ground and as American troops complete their pullout from the war-battered country.

The announcement came at a press conference at the end of a visit by a senior Taliban delegation to Moscow this week — a trip meant to offer assurances that the insurgents’ quick gains in Afghanistan do not threaten Russia or its allies in Central Asia.


The first Biden did was shut down American oil and gas exploration to give all that national wealth to Russia. Next, he lifted sanctions to give Russia all of the EU's gas and oil business - trillions for his pal Putin and Russia.

He also ordered shutting down gas pipeline and pushing ending using fossil fuels - as all energy costs to Americans - and pushing electric cars - to benefit China by giving China a massive low energy costs for their industries and people - as China is building dozens of new coal burn plants.

He is open that he will allow Iran to get nuclear warheads to put on their missiles.

Did anyone doubt he would give Afghanistan to the Taliban?

It seems obvious he will comply with his instructions from Kim Jung Un

Biden is the most traitorous president possible, essentially a foreign agent of Russia and China. It's just a lie to fly the American flag over the White House. It should be the Chinese flag above the Russian flag, and the White House should be painted red. Stop the lies. He is converting the USA to being nothing but one of China's provinces, while completely rebuilding Russia's economy - and therefore military - ultimately trillions from the American economy to the Russian economy. He gave Russia control of world oil and therefore energy, and is giving China the last of American industry.

Basically the future of the USA is that economy is Big Tech, Amazon, WalMart and other big box international companies - all of which are the advertising agencies and retailers for Chinese products made in Chinese factories in joint Chinese plutocrats - American plutocrats global monopoly. The guardians of freedom, the middle merchant class, was destroyed by the covid-19 bioterrorism campaign on TV, in newspapers and and online - that the plutocrats 90+% control. The propaganda was that all small low traffic businesses must be ordered illegal and permanently eliminated (over half a million so far) - claiming you are not safe unless packed into a WalMart, other big box store, or from Amazon Prime with 20,000 covid-19 postive employees mailing covid 19 all over the country. In fact, they would get covid-19 to you often within a day to assure maximum remaining covid-19 on the packaging and product.

You may want to convert any money and accounts you have to necessities of life. Inflation is going to erase money and savings. Also liquidate stock, that will not be able to keep up with increasing inflation rates. It isn't long before the world and petro monetary system will not longer be the American dollar. When that happened the value of the dollar falls thru the floor - permanently - and there is no domestic production to even try to fall back on. The USA already is a beggar to China for goods and products paid for on IOUs and by American land and businesses.

BIden fully surrendered to Russia and China, the easiest colonization of another country probably in known history.
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This is a logic at the level of the Holocaust... which lasted longer than the Second World War... it started earlier... and if you think like you, Jews, Gypsies, Balts and Slavs, were not strong against the Holocaust... however, still no.
Wow. Straight to the Holocaust. Its clear that discussing this with you will be pointless.
 
MOSCOW (AP) — The Taliban claimed on Friday that they now control 85% of Afghanistan’s territory amid a surge in wins on the ground and as American troops complete their pullout from the war-battered country.

The announcement came at a press conference at the end of a visit by a senior Taliban delegation to Moscow this week — a trip meant to offer assurances that the insurgents’ quick gains in Afghanistan do not threaten Russia or its allies in Central Asia.


The first Biden did was shut down American oil and gas exploration to give all that national wealth to Russia. Next, he lifted sanctions to give Russia all of the EU's gas and oil business - trillions for his pal Putin and Russia.

He also ordered shutting down gas pipeline and pushing ending using fossil fuels - as all energy costs to Americans - and pushing electric cars - to benefit China by giving China a massive low energy costs for their industries and people - as China is building dozens of new coal burn plants.

He is open that he will allow Iran to get nuclear warheads to put on their missiles.

Did anyone doubt he would give Afghanistan to the Taliban?

It seems obvious he will comply with his instructions from Kim Jung Un

Biden is the most traitorous president possible, essentially a foreign agent of Russia and China. It's just a lie to fly the American flag over the White House. It should be the Chinese flag above the Russian flag, and the White House should be painted red. Stop the lies. He is converting the USA to being nothing but one of China's provinces, while completely rebuilding Russia's economy - and therefore military - ultimately trillions from the American economy to the Russian economy. He gave Russia control of world oil and therefore energy, and is giving China the last of American industry.

Basically the future of the USA is that economy is Big Tech, Amazon, WalMart and other big box international companies - all of which are the advertising agencies and retailers for Chinese products made in Chinese factories in joint Chinese plutocrats - American plutocrats global monopoly. The guardians of freedom, the middle merchant class, was destroyed by the covid-19 bioterrorism campaign on TV, in newspapers and and online - that the plutocrats 90+% control. The propaganda was that all small low traffic businesses must be ordered illegal and permanently eliminated (over half a million so far) - claiming you are not safe unless packed into a WalMart, other big box store, or from Amazon Prime with 20,000 covid-19 postive employees mailing covid 19 all over the country. In fact, they would get covid-19 to you often within a day to assure maximum remaining covid-19 on the packaging and product.

You may want to convert any money and accounts you have to necessities of life. Inflation is going to erase money and savings. Also liquidate stock, that will not be able to keep up with increasing inflation rates. It isn't long before the world and petro monetary system will not longer be the American dollar. When that happened the value of the dollar falls thru the floor - permanently - and there is no domestic production to even try to fall back on. The USA already is a beggar to China for goods and products paid for on IOUs and by American land and businesses.

BIden fully surrendered to Russia and China, the easiest colonization of another country probably in known history.
Tldr
 

This is an adult site involving reading and thinking. But, for you, there are messages with videos you can watch. Even sometimes videos that are no more than 15 seconds long ideal for you. lol
 
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People have no clue how many little countries we are in and protecting against the Religion of War, Islam, created by a sociopathic genocidal warlord for which the religion calls for using lying, breaking treaties, torture, mass murder and war to expand the religion. It is estimated the Great Muslim Empire killed over 200,000,000 people, the equal to more than a billion today as a percentage of world population.
 
And then we were shocked by all of Olgino... that is, we have worked so much on the topic of Trump... and it turns out Biden... you will first decide who our agent is there, otherwise it is impossible to work.

But seriously. For 20 years, America has been spending a lot of money to win a war that has no end... and which makes no sense. No reputation, because the control is imaginary, and Afghanistan has become an even more bandit country. No income from this country.
Why the United States needs this is not clear. Take your soldiers from Afghanistan, Poland, the Baltic States, we will take care of everyone.

Who is the "we" that you claim can stop or defeat the Empire of Islam?
 
People have no clue how many little countries we are in and protecting against the Religion of War, Islam, created by a sociopathic genocidal warlord for which the religion calls for using lying, breaking treaties, torture, mass murder and war to expand the religion. It is estimated the Great Muslim Empire killed over 200,000,000 people, the equal to more than a billion today as a percentage of world population.

Roughly 99 percent of Afghans are Muslims bud.

Trying to pretend we are “protecting them from Islam” is incredibly stupid.
 
Trump started the war in Afghanistan? I had no idea he was Prez back in 2001! Damn....you learn something new every day!

Obama bombed more countries than any president since WW2 and saw no reason to askf or a declaration of war, even when the open goal was to overthrow a government and assassin the leadership and the leader's family (Libya).
 
These wars are impossible to win unless using ancient tactics and the tactics Mohammed himself used to covert people all the way to France and India.

The method? Killing 200,000,000 - the equal to well over a billion today. Ancient war was war of terror and no tolerance. If any city or village didn't do everyone demanded, turn over they young males to serve in their military, pay and do anything demanded, did not convert, everyone would be killed - no exceptions - and the city destroyed. Then move on to the next. There was little tolerance for other religions and if allowed, highly oppressed and taxed.

This was how war was done. Unless willing to kill and mass kill at the slightest opposition, making it clear the way you deal with insurgents hiding out is to kill everyone that may possibly be related, their entire clam, their village and just keep killing. Torture. Rape. That was the practice of every empire and nearly all ancient warfare - and it works if the goal is conquest, occupation and PERMANENT submission generation to generation - those people literally becoming one of your own nationality and military service.
 
imo, Afghanistan was going to fall back to its old ways no matter when the US withdraws.

How many remember Trump wanting US out by May 1 2021?
Yeah, I think this is the classic political BS. Neither side wanted to be there forever, neither side had a way for us to get out without gotcha consequences occurring, so neither side knew WTF to do about this situation. Those who claim otherwise and try to use this to attack their political opponents are just hacks.
 
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