Taliban greets Pentagon's withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan with cries

[TU Curmudgeon]

From NBC News

Taliban greets Pentagon's withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan with cries of victory
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PESHAWAR, Pakistan — News that the White House had ordered the Pentagon to draw up plans for a troop withdrawal from Afghanistan provoked widespread criticism that the move would kneecap efforts to broker a peace deal to end America's longest war.

But there was one group on Friday celebrating the reports — the Taliban.

Senior members told NBC News the news was a clear indication they were on the verge of victory.

“The 17-year-long struggle and sacrifices of thousands of our people finally yielded fruit," said a senior Taliban commander from Afghanistan’s Helmand province. "We proved it to the entire world that we defeated the self-proclaimed world’s lone super power."

COMMENT:-

Apparently not everyone thinks that Mr. Trump is doing the wrong thing by pulling out of Afghanistan.

I wonder how the "conservatives" feel about finding themselves on the same side as the Taliban.
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[gulfman]

We don't need to fight ISIS over there anymore.They are coming across the border from Mexico.We will be fighting them here.

 

[Jredbaron96]

The cutoff in the thread title honestly gave me the mental image of a bunch of Taliban fighters weeping on their hands and knees.

 

[Saladin4]

We don't need to fight ISIS over there anymore.They are coming across the border from Mexico.We will be fighting them here.

Good Logic...Lots are dressed like woman and children....Still tough to see the US Military cut and run

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

The cutoff in the thread title honestly gave me the mental image of a bunch of Taliban fighters weeping on their hands and knees.

I know that no one will believe me, but it WAS an "oopsie".

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

We don't need to fight ISIS over there anymore.They are coming across the border from Mexico.We will be fighting them here.

ISISISISILDAESHWHATEVER doesn't have to send people "across the border from Mexico" there are THOUSANDS of "low hanging fruit" already in the US (many of them even born in the US).

 

[gulfman]

ISISISISILDAESHWHATEVER doesn't have to send people "across the border from Mexico" there are THOUSANDS of "low hanging fruit" already in the US (many of them even born in the US).

Liberals?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Good Logic...Lots are dressed like woman and children....Still tough to see the US Military cut and run

There is no "cut and run" involved.

What there is (assuming that Mr. Trump "stays the course" [not always a safe assumption]) is "a planned and coordinated retrograde advance as directed by higher headquarters in order to redeploy to more advantageous positions that will enable limited resources to more efficaciously deal with changed conditions so as to secure new objectives".

You do understand the difference don't you?

"Cut and run" is what troops do WITHOUT being told to do it.

"A planned and coordinated retrograde advance as directed by higher headquarters in order to redeploy to more advantageous positions that will enable limited resources to more efficaciously deal with changed conditions so as to secure new objectives" is what the troops do when they are told to do it.

 

[Saladin4]

There is no "cut and run" involved.

What there is (assuming that Mr. Trump "stays the course" [not always a safe assumption]) is "a planned and coordinated retrograde advance as directed by higher headquarters in order to redeploy to more advantageous positions that will enable limited resources to more efficaciously deal with changed conditions so as to secure new objectives".

You do understand the difference don't you?

"Cut and run" is what troops do WITHOUT being told to do it.

"A planned and coordinated retrograde advance as directed by higher headquarters in order to redeploy to more advantageous positions that will enable limited resources to more efficaciously deal with changed conditions so as to secure new objectives" is what the troops do when they are told to do it.

Redeploy=Cut and run

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Liberals?

Not likely.

Anyone who follows who has been actually conducting the terrorist attacks INSIDE the United States of America would know that.

Mind you, a lot of people who think in labels aren't.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Redeploy=Cut and run

If there was any "cut and run" it wasn't done by the US military (unless you consider that the Commander-in-Chief is - in reality - a MEMBER of the US military).

The troops have been ORDERED to withdraw - even though the troops don't want to - so it isn't "the US Military" that has "cut and run" it is the person who issued the orders to withdraw and that person is ...

 

[Atomic Kid]

We don't need to fight ISIS over there anymore.They are coming across the border from Mexico.We will be fighting them here.

Mexico? :lamo :lamo :lamo

 

[Saladin4]

If there was any "cut and run" it wasn't done by the US military (unless you consider that the Commander-in-Chief is - in reality - a MEMBER of the US military).

The troops have been ORDERED to withdraw - even though the troops don't want to - so it isn't "the US Military" that has "cut and run" it is the person who issued the orders to withdraw and that person is ...

The same result...The US Military turning tail , conceding defeat

 

[Perotista]

From NBC News

Taliban greets Pentagon's withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan with cries of victory
​

PESHAWAR, Pakistan — News that the White House had ordered the Pentagon to draw up plans for a troop withdrawal from Afghanistan provoked widespread criticism that the move would kneecap efforts to broker a peace deal to end America's longest war.

But there was one group on Friday celebrating the reports — the Taliban.

Senior members told NBC News the news was a clear indication they were on the verge of victory.

“The 17-year-long struggle and sacrifices of thousands of our people finally yielded fruit," said a senior Taliban commander from Afghanistan’s Helmand province. "We proved it to the entire world that we defeated the self-proclaimed world’s lone super power."

COMMENT:-

Apparently not everyone thinks that Mr. Trump is doing the wrong thing by pulling out of Afghanistan.

I wonder how the "conservatives" feel about finding themselves on the same side as the Taliban.
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Does anybody else find it strange that the left is switching from Peace Doves to War Hawks. That perhaps the right is going back to their isolationist mode of pre-Vietnam? It's my opinion that G.W. Bush fought a very smart war in the beginning. A few SF and paramilitary on the ground, our air power, the 13 tribe northern alliance doing the fighting on the ground. Driving the Taliban out of Afghanistan.

Then the screw up, the thing G.W. called nation building which was in essence of us forcing democracy upon the Afghani which didn't want it. We've been there ever since. The remainder of Bush, all through Obama and now the beginnings of Trump. Just so we can ensure we choose their form of government. By not letting the Afghani choose themselves, they wanted Tribal rule by their elders and shamans or whatever they call their religious folks. This has caused a fall out of 8 or 9 of the 13 tribes originally on our side to oppose us.

Think about it. The Taliban wanted to bring all of Afghanistan under a single ruler instead of Tribal rulers. So we help them drive the Taliban out, then force them to be ruled by a single ruler from one of the tribes. All they wanted was to be ruled by their own tribal elders and religious folks.

what we have here is colonization by another name, nation building.

 

[ElChupacabra]

We don't need to fight ISIS over there anymore.They are coming across the border from Mexico.We will be fighting them here.

:lamo

Oh are they now? Are they ISIS fighters who are also members of MS13?

 

[Fletch]

From NBC News

Taliban greets Pentagon's withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan with cries of victory
​

PESHAWAR, Pakistan — News that the White House had ordered the Pentagon to draw up plans for a troop withdrawal from Afghanistan provoked widespread criticism that the move would kneecap efforts to broker a peace deal to end America's longest war.

But there was one group on Friday celebrating the reports — the Taliban.

Senior members told NBC News the news was a clear indication they were on the verge of victory.

“The 17-year-long struggle and sacrifices of thousands of our people finally yielded fruit," said a senior Taliban commander from Afghanistan’s Helmand province. "We proved it to the entire world that we defeated the self-proclaimed world’s lone super power."

COMMENT:-

Apparently not everyone thinks that Mr. Trump is doing the wrong thing by pulling out of Afghanistan.

I wonder how the "conservatives" feel about finding themselves on the same side as the Taliban.
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What do you suggest? Another 17 years?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Liberals?

Actually folks with significantly more conservative views. Remember, Islamic fundamentalists are religious conservatives who want to reinstate Islamic law in order to conserve and revive the old values.

 

[upsideguy]

We don't need to fight ISIS over there anymore.They are coming across the border from Mexico.We will be fighting them here.

If they believe that crossing the border in Mexico to come to the US is an intelligent approach, then we have nothing to worry as they are stupid.

Sorry, I think you have much to learn about ISIS, its goals and what is actually happening on the US Mexico border. The threat there is not ISIS, its brown people.

 

[ElChupacabra]

If they believe that crossing the border in Mexico to come to the US is an intelligent approach, then we have nothing to worry as they are stupid.

Sorry, I think you have much to learn about ISIS, its goals and what is actually happening on the US Mexico border. The threat there is not ISIS, its brown people.

I did have a real laugh when Trump made that statement only to watch Pence try to weasel his way out of saying that was definitively the case. Man, it must really be like having to supervise your wacky uncle in this administration. "No...NO UNCLE DONNIE....we DO NOT repeat InfoWars articles as fact at the dinner table....NO...put the iPhone down you NOW! YOU ARE NOT TWEETING!"

 

[Fletch]

The same result...The US Military turning tail , conceding defeat

Thats just stupid. We are not conceding anything. We are ending our 17 year nation building effort. But go ahead, tell me how much longer you would like us to stay there

 

[spud_meister]

Liberals?

Religious conservatives...

 

[Saladin4]

Thats just stupid. We are not conceding anything. We are ending our 17 year nation building effort. But go ahead, tell me how much longer you would like us to stay there

The Military commanders on the ground disagree......Looks to the US Allies like the US Military is cutting and Running

 

[eohrnberger]

We don't need to fight ISIS over there anymore.They are coming across the border from Mexico.We will be fighting them here.

So we repeat the failed and damaging European experience here?
Oh joy. :roll:

 

[Rogue Valley]

Pakistan and AQ has to love this Trump move.

 

[sangha]

Does anybody else find it strange that the left is switching from Peace Doves to War Hawks.

Two words: Hillary Clinton

The DNC hasnt been a pacifist party since the 60s, and not even then

But you are right about the nation building part