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Taliban Bring Back ‘Virtue’ Ministry, Stoning and Amputations for ‘Major Sins’

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In other news, the Taliban announced a major shift in domestic policy in allowing women to attend universities.
 

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As long as they aren’t hurting Americans

now if they do, we need to respond
With what? A sternly worded letter?

They have hundreds of Americans. What do you think they will do with them if we start threatening them?
 

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we need to invade and occupy that country.
 

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The Ministry for Propagation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice -- something that Democrats are slowly building towards, with their Ministry of Truth -- is now officially back in force with the Taliban:

Afghanis did not want to fight for there freedoms they gained in 20 years. They will get no sympathy from this corner.
 

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Afghanis did not want to fight for there freedoms they gained in 20 years. They will get no sympathy from this corner.

Most of their main army folded, but their special forces did not. There are Afghans who are still fighting the Taliban.

The problem was that they were being made to fight a war with one arm tied behind their backs. Just like in Vietnam. When US withdrew, ANA folded, just like ARVN folded. It's easy to see why.
 

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Cool story. Are you saying Trump should not have signed a deal with them to withdraw? Or that Biden should not have followed through with it?

Did you want to stay there for another 20 years and a few more $trillion and then leave?
How can we not act when people are being beheaded and women whipped and tortured in public because."sharia law ". Its ****ing disgusting
 

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How can we not act when people are being beheaded and women whipped and tortured in public because."sharia law ". Its ****ing disgusting
The same way we don't act when the same or worse kinds of bad shit happens in other areas of the world.

Because it's not to our benefit.

Which is not to say the failure to act is right, just that it isn't new.
 

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With what? A sternly worded letter?

They have hundreds of Americans. What do you think they will do with them if we start threatening them?
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was that an answer to

"With what? A sternly worded letter?"

or

"They have hundreds of Americans. What do you think they will do with them if we start threatening them?"
 

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was that an answer to

"With what? A sternly worded letter?"

or

"They have hundreds of Americans. What do you think they will do with them if we start threatening them?"
It looks like the latest estimate is around 100


I don't care about green card holders, but if the Taliban does harm the citizens, then we should rain holy hell on them.
 

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It looks like the latest estimate is around 100

:snorts: it isn't, though. That is the number they are saying out loud. The real number is higher, and we are finally managing to pull out numbers in public regarding legal permanent residents (which the Administration has previously studiously avoided mentioning), to say nothing of our Allies citizens, whom we forced them to abandon, or the Afghans to whom we promised protection, and then abandoned.

We were talking about around a 1500 citizens a few days before we flew out, however, the only people that got to fly out were those who were in Kabul, and could make it through the survival-of-the-fittest fight through the crowd around HKIA (that's important because A) not all citizens were in Kabul and B) many of them couldn't fight their way through the crowds, and C) the Taliban turned back some of them who did so) Then, when we flew out, we said "Hundreds" of citizens. Since then, the State Department has proudly boasted that 4 have managed to escape.

Meanwhile, Blinken went from saying 350, to 250 to 150 to 100 in the space of, what, a day or two?

I'm not a math doctor, but, "Low Hundreds" - 4 =/= 100.
 

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:snorts: it isn't, though. That is the number they are saying out loud. The real number is higher, and we are finally managing to pull out numbers in public regarding legal permanent residents (which the Administration has previously studiously avoided mentioning), to say nothing of our Allies citizens, whom we forced them to abandon, or the Afghans to whom we promised protection, and then abandoned.

We were talking about around a 1500 citizens a few days before we flew out, however, the only people that got to fly out were those who were in Kabul, and could make it through the survival-of-the-fittest fight through the crowd around HKIA (that's important because A) not all citizens were in Kabul and B) many of them couldn't fight their way through the crowds, and C) the Taliban turned back some of them who did so) Then, when we flew out, we said "Hundreds" of citizens. Since then, the State Department has proudly boasted that 4 have managed to escape.

Meanwhile, Blinken went from saying 350, to 250 to 150 to 100 in the space of, what, a day or two?

I'm not a math doctor, but, "Low Hundreds" - 4 =/= 100.
To be fair, you are much more likely to know people who are more intimately involved with this sort of thing.
 

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was that an answer to

"With what? A sternly worded letter?"

or

"They have hundreds of Americans. What do you think they will do with them if we start threatening them?"
Technically, it could be both.
 

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To be fair, you are much more likely to know people who are more intimately involved with this sort of thing.
:( There are people broken by this process. Not that it compares to the situation of those left behind, but, I'm glad I didn't have to be one of the ones answering the phone.
 

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It looks like the latest estimate is around 100


I don't care about green card holders, but if the Taliban does harm the citizens, then we should rain holy hell on them.
The problem becomes, if they (say) beat and rape 3 female AMCIT'S, and so we strike them,

A) does Pakistan even let us do that?

B) what do we do when the Taliban start scooping up ALL the Americans left behind in response? Is it worth hundreds of Americans to avenge 3?

Because we left them with so many potential hostages, we are kinda toothless. Biden & Co. are taking a beating in the conservative press because they aren't saying bad things about the Taliban, but, because of the decisions they made, antagonizing the Taliban could come with a heavy cost to innocent Americans :(

A shit show, from beginning to end :(
 

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:( There are people broken by this process. Not that it compares to the situation of those left behind, but, I'm glad I didn't have to be one of the ones answering the phone.
Unfortunately, this whole thing appears to be a slowly moving ****up that took over a year to finally crash.
 

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Unfortunately, this whole thing appears to be a slowly moving ****up that took over a year to finally crash.
It's like the old adage about going broke - it happened very slowly, and then all of a sudden.
 

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The Ministry for Propagation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice -- something that Democrats are slowly building towards, with their Ministry of Truth -- is now officially back in force with the Taliban:

Well I'd be careful with throwing that stone, if I were you. It's the Republicans trying to Handmaid Tale this shit, just look at their oppressive anti-abortion laws already.

As for the Taliban, they're a bunch of ultra-right religious nutjobs. You can't trust those folk.
 

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Well I'd be careful with throwing that stone, if I were you. It's the Republicans trying to Handmaid Tale this shit, just look at their oppressive anti-abortion laws already.

I think that if the Left wouldn't try to Thought Police others on abortion, wouldn't try to suppress people from publishing footage of aborted fetuses, etc, then the Left would be better positioned to make their case. But instead they try to short-circuit that by muzzling opponents, and resorting to political tricks. Look at the smearing of Bret Kavanaugh, all because of their unfounded fear that his being a judicial conservative somehow automatically made him a political conservative, and thus anti-abortion.

As for the Taliban, they're a bunch of ultra-right religious nutjobs. You can't trust those folk.

And yet the Biden administration is trying to get into bed with the Taliban, and mend fences with them. It's like some sudden flip-flop. And it's only going to put America in bad books with its allies.
 

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Most of their main army folded, but their special forces did not. There are Afghans who are still fighting the Taliban.

The problem was that they were being made to fight a war with one arm tied behind their backs. Just like in Vietnam. When US withdrew, ANA folded, just like ARVN folded. It's easy to see why.

The ARVN folded TWO YEARS after the US withdrew.
 

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The ARVN folded TWO YEARS after the US withdrew.

True, but don't forget -- the US wasn't funding the North Vietnamese side -- unlike in this latest war.
The NVA simply weren't able to advance as quickly as the Taliban and their patron did, with the largesse of American tax dollars.

 

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The Ministry for Propagation of Virtue and Prevention of Vice -- something that Democrats are slowly building towards, with their Ministry of Truth -- is now officially back in force with the Taliban:

Hey! Don't give the Texas Taliban legislature anymore ideas please.
 

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True, but don't forget -- the US wasn't funding the North Vietnamese side -- unlike in this latest war.
The NVA simply weren't able to advance as quickly as the Taliban and their patron did, with the largesse of American tax dollars.


Lara Logan? Shit, she has jumped onto the conspiracy nut fruitcake cart and won't be falling off of it any time soon apparently.
 

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Most of their main army folded, but their special forces did not. There are Afghans who are still fighting the Taliban.

The problem was that they were being made to fight a war with one arm tied behind their backs. Just like in Vietnam. When US withdrew, ANA folded, just like ARVN folded. It's easy to see why.
US military forces were withdrawn from Vietnam in February of 1973. (Operation Homecoming) South Vietnam surrendered to North Vietnamese forces on April 30 1975. More than two years after US forces had been withdrawn. Whereas the Afghan government capitulated to the Taliban in just 11 days. There is no real comparison between the two.
 
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