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Taking "Judge Not" Out of Context...

Elora said:
The length is not the point...the point of Jesus using a "season" is so we can recognize when the time for him to take rule is getting near...Luke 21

29 And he told them a parable: “See the fig-tree, and all the trees;

30 when they are leaving out you know for yourselves by seeing it that summer is now near;

31 so you too, when you see these things taking place, are to know that the Reign of God is near
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I find it interesting that you repeatedly use excerpts from a "Twisted" Holy text source as evidence of anything 'truthful' or 'factual.'
 
Logician Man said:
How did those 8 1/2 million "have access to the truth", if the Scriptures "have been twisted since the beginning of time", which came 'before' any humans existed? How does one gain 'Truth' from "Twisted" scripture? The source of truth, per your OP claim clearly states "Scripture" was twisted 'before' mankind even existed.
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The holy spirit, earnest and sincere desire, and lots of prayer and digging as for hidden treasure...Proverbs 2...

3 Moreover, if you call out for understanding+
And raise your voice for discernment;+

4 If you keep seeking for it as for silver,+
And you keep searching for it as for hidden treasures;+

5 Then you will understand the fear of Jehovah,+
And you will find the knowledge of God.+

6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom;+
From his mouth come knowledge and discernment.
 
Logician Man said:
How did those 8 1/2 million "have access to the truth", if the Scriptures "have been twisted since the beginning of time", which came 'before' any humans existed? How does one gain 'Truth' from "Twisted" scripture? The source of truth, per your OP claim clearly states "Scripture" was twisted 'before' mankind even existed.
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Trying to use logic with a cult member…
 
Logician Man said:
I find it interesting that you repeatedly use excerpts from a "Twisted" Holy text source as evidence of anything 'truthful' or 'factual.'
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As I said, it is not twisted to me...yes, my eyes were once blinded by Satan but now I see...even you can see some truths of the Bible...
 
Elora said:
The holy spirit, earnest and sincere desire, and lots of prayer and digging as for hidden treasure...Proverbs 2...

3 Moreover, if you call out for understanding+
And raise your voice for discernment;+

4 If you keep seeking for it as for silver,+
And you keep searching for it as for hidden treasures;+

5 Then you will understand the fear of Jehovah,+
And you will find the knowledge of God.+

6 For Jehovah himself gives wisdom;+
From his mouth come knowledge and discernment.
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How does the "holy spirit" override that "Twisted scripture" Jehovah allowed Satan to taint with lies?
 
Logician Man said:
How does the "holy spirit" override that "Twisted scripture" Jehovah allowed Satan to taint with lies?
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Jehovah God is more powerful than Satan...Satan is very much afraid of Jehovah...

"Therefore, subject yourselves to God;+ but oppose the Devil,+ and he will flee from you." James 4:7
 
Elora said:
I wrote a devotion about the harm of pornography and a woman wrote and told me, "Judge not." She said I shouldn't judge people's choices in reading materials because that was God's job.

Her misunderstanding is common. Many people think that the Bible prohibits us from judging anything beyond our own sins.

But the "Judge not" passage (Matthew 7:1-5), when read in context, actually teaches us these points:
  • Don’t judge others with a different standard than you judge yourself.
  • Judge your own sins first, because unrepentant sin alters your "vision" (perspective).
  • If you appropriately deal with your sins, you’ll be able to appropriately judge others effectively.
This passage prohibits hypocritical judging, not judging in general.

So why have we so easily accepted this "judge not" error?

Because Satan has been twisting Scripture from the beginning of time to confuse us and make us soft on sin.

But we can refuse Satan's counsel by checking everything, even out-of-context Scripture passages, against the full truth of God's Word.
https://biblelovenotes.blogspot.com/2013/01/do-not-judge.html?m=1
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I'm not sure what you want to have happen here. Are you angry because we're not all condemning porn? Please clarify.
 
Elora said:
As I said, it is not twisted to me..
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Again....From 'your' OP. "Satan has been twisting scripture since the beginning of time...." Clearly a direct contradiction to "As I said. it is not twisted to me."
 
Logician Man said:
Again....From 'your' OP. "Satan has been twisting scripture since the beginning of time...." Clearly a direct contradiction to "As I said. it is not twisted to me."
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Yea, and he's still twisting it to the vast majority of mankind...there is no contradiction...merely your failing to understand that with God's help, a person can get past Satan...
 
Elora said:
Yea, and he's still twisting it to the vast majority of mankind...
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A goal post move? There is no mention of "the vast majority of mankind" in the OP.
 
lurchadams said:
I'm not sure what you want to have happen here. Are you angry because we're not all condemning porn? Please clarify.
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lol...porn really has nothing to do with the OP, except that she used it as an example when someone told her not to judge...the point of the OP is that God wants us to judge, just not hypocritically...
 
Elora said:
Yea, and he's still twisting it to the vast majority of mankind...there is no contradiction...merely your failing to understand that with God's help, a person can get past Satan...
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Only if they are “True Christians” who never sin and never violate any commandments, yes?
 
Logician Man said:
A goal post move? There is no mention of "the vast majority of mankind" in the OP.
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And this makes no sense, since evidently the writer of the OP does not feel she is one of the blinded...
 
Elora said:
And this makes no sense, since evidently the writer of the OP does not feel she is one of the blinded...
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Blinded or not, if indeed, as is stated/claimed in the OP by the 'writer', Satan "has been twisting scripture since the beginning of time" ( before mankind existed ), by definition, the source has been tainted with lies and deception, and therefore unreliable as a source of actual/factual 'Truth.'
 
Logician Man said:
Blinded or not, if indeed Satan "has been twisting scripture since the beginning of time ( before mankind existed ), by definition, the source has been tainted with lies and deception, and therefore unreliable as a source of actual/factual 'Truth.'
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Wrong, just because Satan works hard at twisting God's Word, that does not mean everyone has been deceived by him...
 
Elora said:
Wrong, just because Satan works hard at twisting God's Word, that does not mean everyone has been deceived by him...
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And how does one discern as to whom has been deceived from a source you claim Satan twisted and tainted with lies 'before' everyone/anyone had access to that tainted Holy Text?
 
Logician Man said:
And how does one discern as to whom has been deceived from a source you claim Satan twisted and tainted with lies 'before' everyone/anyone had access to that tainted Holy Text?
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It's pretty obvious, by what they believe or don't believe...Satan's twisting and deceiving began in the garden, before there was written word...he lied to Eve and he's been lying ever since...
 
Elora said:
It's pretty obvious, by what they believe or don't believe...Satan's twisting and deceiving began in the garden, before there was written word...he lied to Eve and he's been lying ever since...
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Time began with Adam and Eve now, as opposed to the OP claim "Satan has been twisting Scripture since the beginning of time"?
 
Logician Man said:
Time began with Adam and Eve now, as opposed to the OP claim "Satan has been twisting Scripture since the beginning of time"?
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Is that not when time began with mankind?
 
Elora said:
Is that not when time began with mankind?
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Nothing in your OP about "time began with mankind." OP clearly states "Satan has been twisting scripture since the beginning of time......"
 
Logician Man said:
Nothing in your OP about "time began with mankind." OP clearly states "Satan has been twisting scripture since the beginning of time......"
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And he has...
 
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