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Can anyone take that test and still think that school is so much easier now than it was in times past?
Take the Common Core 4th grade math test
A couple questions took me a minute to figure out what they where asking, but this was not bad, and kinda fascinating.
very similar to what i experienced in DoD school
54 years ago
then it was called 'new' math
and we were all supposed to go into engineering
- it worked for me
hope it works for today's students
my wife teaches at a school that is 100% subsidized lunch
17% (17 out of a 100 for those who got a low score of the assignment) are on grade level in math and reading
doesn't seem to be working for them
Which is another issue. Part of wisdom is knowing how and where to put effort. I get that there are a few kids who might benefit from thinking about this in a more complex manner, but for the most part why even go there if you dont have to?
Yeah, 19, 20, 21 can all be 70.
Rainfall and snow screwed me up at first, make a mistake and think 4" is only going to be 1/4" and you have a problem. One litre is about one US quart, four point 2 to the gallon, five in Imperial gallon.
If this Common Core stuff was just considered a tool to be used to help kids who otherwise have problems with math, it wouldn't be so bad. But to replace all other tools with this is making a mistake, I think.
Traditional methods of teaching math should be taught as the basics...Common Core can be introduced to all kids...but only emphasized for those who don't respond to the traditional methods. One size fits all is really not a good way to go.
I think we could easily convert to celcius, it would just take some getting used to. As far as the rest of the metric system, I work in science (petroleum testing) and we use it exclusively. It took me less than a month to really get used to it, and by years end of using it every day metric comes naturally to me even moreso than the English system (American). It's way more efficient, and we could convert to it within a generation if we really wanted to. Might be harder for those of us who are older, but it would come eventually.
Yeah, that's a bitch. But 98.6 is 37 dead on. Probably the only metric that tunes out that way.
You don't build much I guess, but when I need a 1/4" screw I want a ****ing 1/4" screw not some stupid 9.4 cm screw, when I want a half inch anything I want a 1/2" whatever not have to remember whether that's a 12 or 13 wrench. Tires drive me nuts, my head can't convert the numbers. But the rest is great, only with metric in distances you have to drive further, but you can go faster. speed limit here is 100.
Can anyone take that test and still think that school is so much easier now than it was in times past?
wait!
17 in 100 are where they are supposed to be?
Working is not the issue here, but how the **** such a failure rate even gets tried?
Imagine now if they were learning to pack parachutes.
Its quite a jump to look at that one website and infer its how education is now. Keep in mind graduation rates.
If this Common Core stuff was just considered a tool to be used to help kids who otherwise have problems with math, it wouldn't be so bad. But to replace all other tools with this is making a mistake, I think.
Traditional methods of teaching math should be taught as the basics...Common Core can be introduced to all kids...but only emphasized for those who don't respond to the traditional methods. One size fits all is really not a good way to go.
I think we could easily convert to celcius, it would just take some getting used to. As far as the rest of the metric system, I work in science (petroleum testing) and we use it exclusively. It took me less than a month to really get used to it, and by years end of using it every day metric comes naturally to me even moreso than the English system (American). It's way more efficient, and we could convert to it within a generation if we really wanted to. Might be harder for those of us who are older, but it would come eventually.
The thing I like about this test (and I did not grow up with this) is the focus is much more on the critical thinking aspect than "guess the correct number." They try to give you scenario's where you aren't just pulling out a calculator, but have to actually think a little bit for yourself.
I didn't grow up with Common Core, I have no idea if I like it or not. I suppose one day when I have children I'll have to help them through it, and I'll get a chance to see much more of what it's about. But critical thinking skills are something that the American education system has lacked. We judge people based on their ability to properly use a calculator, and ultimately I think that's the wrong approach.
When one website is the common core curriculum that schools are expected to teach, no, it's not so much of a jump at all.
I think the biggest irony is that conservatives have the most problems with common core and yet states that typically vote Republican tend to have the people with the lowest education and poorest schools.
The thing I like about this test (and I did not grow up with this) is the focus is much more on the critical thinking aspect than "guess the correct number." They try to give you scenario's where you aren't just pulling out a calculator, but have to actually think a little bit for yourself.
I didn't grow up with Common Core, I have no idea if I like it or not. I suppose one day when I have children I'll have to help them through it, and I'll get a chance to see much more of what it's about. But critical thinking skills are something that the American education system has lacked. We judge people based on their ability to properly use a calculator, and ultimately I think that's the wrong approach.
If this Common Core stuff was just considered a tool to be used to help kids who otherwise have problems with math, it wouldn't be so bad. But to replace all other tools with this is making a mistake, I think.
Traditional methods of teaching math should be taught as the basics...Common Core can be introduced to all kids...but only emphasized for those who don't respond to the traditional methods. One size fits all is really not a good way to go.
You dont see how looking at one site, that is telling you that its the common core curricula (for one grade in one area), can't be used to deduce the overall state of public education?
You have a point there.
So, take a look at the common core and see whether you can find where the curriculum is easier, or more difficult than it was in times past (like, when you were in elementary school, for example).
Oh, here's a good place to start
I'd need the standards, and competency rates from when I was in school to make a useful comparison.
Don't you remember what you were taught? What did you do, spend the day dreaming of recess?
You are asking me to make a cogent comparison of the teaching concepts and techniques from when I was 9 (23 years ago), through the eyes of a 9 year old to this (non-official) website as an adult today.
Ever hear the phrase "garbage in, garbage out"?
Question #14 struck me as just plain dumb.
4 thousands + 3 tens + 5 hundreds is less than which number below?
4 thousands + 5 tens + 3 hundreds
8 hundreds + 3 thousands + 8 ones
4 thousands + 7 ones + 8 tens + 6 hundreds
9 hundreds + 9 tens + 2 thousands
Who in their right mind will take the time to convert 4,530, 4,350, 3,801, 4,687 and 2,990 to thousands, hundreds, tens and ones...just to order them from high to low? I mean, damn...all you have to do is LOOK at the stupid numbers!
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