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Syrian insurgents crimes being ignored by the west

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There was a time during the 30-month covert dirty war on Syria when the Western governments and mainstream media would make a clamor over reported massacres.


Now, despicably, these governments and media just ignore such atrocities.

Why? Because it is increasingly clear that the groups committing these crimes against thousands of Syrian civilians are the foreign-backed mercenaries, whom the Western media and their governments have tried to lionize as “rebels” fighting for “democratic freedom”.

That charade is rapidly disintegrating, exposing not just criminal Western governments sponsoring the violence against civilians, but an entire media industry that is also guilty of war crimes through its willful complicity.


http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/07/30/316273/west-war-crimes-in-syria-exposed/
 
There was a time during the 30-month covert dirty war on Syria when the Western governments and mainstream media would make a clamor over reported massacres.


Now, despicably, these governments and media just ignore such atrocities.

Why? Because it is increasingly clear that the groups committing these crimes against thousands of Syrian civilians are the foreign-backed mercenaries, whom the Western media and their governments have tried to lionize as “rebels” fighting for “democratic freedom”.

That charade is rapidly disintegrating, exposing not just criminal Western governments sponsoring the violence against civilians, but an entire media industry that is also guilty of war crimes through its willful complicity.


PressTV - West war crimes in Syria exposed

There is no good guy in Syria. The rebels are islamists and the Syrian government is a genuine bad boy. Unless there is another faction that will rise up and fight for true democracy, there is no support that the western nations should give to either. the only thing that they can do is provide medical supplies and refugee camps. That's the utmost.

Also, the west is not responsible for all the citizens of the entire world. Syrians are responsible for syrians. Also, you can thank the arab league for sponsoring the islamists who are conducting massacres and then pose as liberators.
 
There was a time during the 30-month covert dirty war on Syria when the Western governments and mainstream media would make a clamor over reported massacres.


Now, despicably, these governments and media just ignore such atrocities.

Why? Because it is increasingly clear that the groups committing these crimes against thousands of Syrian civilians are the foreign-backed mercenaries, whom the Western media and their governments have tried to lionize as “rebels” fighting for “democratic freedom”.

That charade is rapidly disintegrating, exposing not just criminal Western governments sponsoring the violence against civilians, but an entire media industry that is also guilty of war crimes through its willful complicity.


PressTV - West war crimes in Syria exposed

from the link

The latest massacre occurred in the town of Khan al-Assal in the northern province of Aleppo. Some 150 people, mostly civilians, were reportedly slaughtered in cold blood. Many of the victims were shot in the head execution-style. The groups claiming responsibility are the al-Qaeda-linked al-Nusra Front and Ansar al Khalifa.

Reliable sources say that the killers tried to cover up their barbaric crimes by mutilating the corpses and burning the remains. Only days before this orgy of murder, the same groups are believed to have massacred at least seven civilians in the town of Maqbara in the province of Hasakah.




Elsewhere, as the Syrian national army makes searing advances against the militants, it is apparent from the identities of the dead that the majority of these fighters are foreigners, from Saudi Arabia, Libya, Jordan, Turkey, as well as from the US and Europe, including Britain, France and Germany.

Just last week, it was reported that Saudi Arabia bought $50 million-worth of heavy arms from Israel to supply this foreign network in its endeavor to terrorize the people of Syria into submission.

Already, the US, Britain and France have stumped up over $200 million which they claim is provided to “the Syrian opposition” in the form of “non-lethal aid”.

This is just cynical semantics to cover up the fact that the Western governments and their regional Turk, Arab and Israeli proxies are sponsoring genocide in Syria.


what a shame
 
There was a time during the 30-month covert dirty war on Syria when the Western governments and mainstream media would make a clamor over reported massacres.


Now, despicably, these governments and media just ignore such atrocities.

Why? Because it is increasingly clear that the groups committing these crimes against thousands of Syrian civilians are the foreign-backed mercenaries, whom the Western media and their governments have tried to lionize as “rebels” fighting for “democratic freedom”.

That charade is rapidly disintegrating, exposing not just criminal Western governments sponsoring the violence against civilians, but an entire media industry that is also guilty of war crimes through its willful complicity.


PressTV - West war crimes in Syria exposed

There are no good sides in Syria and THAT is the problem. There is noone to support because BOTH sides are corrupt and their goal is to eliminate the other side. Which side do you take?
 
Nice Iranian source. Any chance of bias?

Not that I dispute the allegations exactly but using such a source on grounds of this huge international media conspiracy may - or may not - get to the truth.

And once truth is revealed - what do you think anyone should do about any of this?
 
There is no good guy in Syria. The rebels are islamists and the Syrian government is a genuine bad boy. Unless there is another faction that will rise up and fight for true democracy, there is no support that the western nations should give to either. the only thing that they can do is provide medical supplies and refugee camps. That's the utmost.

Also, the west is not responsible for all the citizens of the entire world. Syrians are responsible for syrians. Also, you can thank the arab league for sponsoring the islamists who are conducting massacres and then pose as liberators.

sorry teh reality isnt as you have described

teh west has been supporting these radicals since the begining of the so called arabian spring and you know it well

teh westernersss should stop voting " imperialism "
 
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sorry teh reality isnt as you have described

teh west has been supporting these radicals since the begining of the so called arabian spring and you know it well

Yes and it is time to stop.
 
Nice Iranian source. Any chance of bias?

Not that I dispute the allegations exactly but using such a source on grounds of this huge international media conspiracy may - or may not - get to the truth.

And once truth is revealed - what do you think anyone should do about any of this?

Obama Authorizes Sending Weapons To Syrian Rebels


Will Arming Syrian Rebels Lead to Disaster? - The Daily Beast
The United States is about to start arming and training the Syrian rebels fighting to overthrow the brutal dictatorship of Bashar al-Assad. If done well, this move can end a bloody civil war. If done poorly, it could lead to disaster. Will Obama and his team do the right thing?


this is not syrian source




turkey has been arming these monsters in accordance with the turkey usa alliance but it seems USA doesnt want to leave the best part of this cake to its ally
 
ignore her, she's not speaking the truth. Just making up stuff.

believe in it if you dont believe me :2wave:

Will Arming Syrian Rebels Lead to Disaster? - The Daily Beast

The United States is about to start arming and training the Syrian rebels fighting to overthrow the brutal dictatorship of Bashar al-Assad. If done well, this move can end a bloody civil war. If done poorly, it could lead to disaster. Will Obama and his team do the right thing?


The CIA’s support of the Afghans ended in brilliant success and the downfall of the Soviet Union, but it succeeded only because it was fought with a clear mission, strong allies and broad bipartisan support. Even then, it also had serious unintended consequences that haunt us to this day.




In Syria, we will need the same sort of help. We can’t arm the rebels without a base next door. We should work with Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar as well as the U.K. and France. But we should have no illusions that we all share the same end game. Our arms could end up in al Qaeda’s hands not just in Syria but in Iraq, Jordan, and elsewhere. They could be used to kill Americans.
 
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There are no good sides in Syria and THAT is the problem. There is noone to support because BOTH sides are corrupt and their goal is to eliminate the other side. Which side do you take?

Sure Next, I agree with you, to an extent. Here's where it ends. Assad hasn't used chemical weaponry on his civilians, (he actually enjoys good support from them, especially now that things are SO MUCH WORSE than they were 3 years ago) he hasn't parked non discriminating truck bombs in front of buildings that kill both intended and unintended targets, he didn't loot and burn Christian church's, he didn't tie up civilians and shoot them execution style, all of which the al Qaida affiliated insurgents have done. Assad like Saddam ran a tight ship, if you screwed up it didn't go well for you, however Syria enjoyed far more peace than anything that we've seen in the last 3 years. It is deplorable that the US is arming the al Qaida affiliated insurgents. 100,000 are dead so far and if the US would get out of the way, Assad would crush this insurgency and things would return to normal. I can assure you this, Russia and China are determined to prevent Assad from collapse. So if we must continue to support the insurgency, we must realise that we are going to be locked in a long conflict with them. Btw. If an insurgency arose in the US and American bands were engaging in an effort to overthrow the federal government, do you think the government would retaliate to defend their perceived right to exist, and how do you think the federal government might view Syria were they to support a US insurgency and covertly train and arm them?
 
Nice Iranian source. Any chance of bias?

Not that I dispute the allegations exactly but using such a source on grounds of this huge international media conspiracy may - or may not - get to the truth.

And once truth is revealed - what do you think anyone should do about any of this?


Is there a media source without a bias. Russian television has been saying the same thing for some time now. Several western media sources have been caught fabricating stories in Syria, including the BBC, to demonise the Assad government.
 
NATO said 70% of Syrians support Assad. They do so for good reason. They’re alarmed about Al Qaeda, Al Nusra, and other extremist elements waging war, committing atrocities and other crimes.

According to an unnamed Western source, “Assad is winning the war mostly because the people are cooperating with him against the rebels.”


http://www.globalresearch.ca/anti-s...s-who-is-behind-killings-of-civilians/5337870
 
What people fail to realise is that Syria is not a part of the Arab Spring. This was the US capitalising on it and instigating it there because the overthrow of the syrian government is a long time goal of US foreign policy. This was not a civilian uprising like the other places.
 
Syria’s President Assad predicts he will win civil war
Syria’s President Bashar Al Assad issued a statement today predicting his forces will win the civil war. This comes after at least 40 people were killed and dozens were injured in Homs yesterday.

Residents of Homs, many of whom support Assad, say rebels targeted an ammunition depot with a rocket. The explosion reportedly sent a massive fireball into the sky.

The blast crushed cars and blew through walls. The incident coincided with a rare trip by Assad; he was visiting a former rebel stronghold to mark army day.

This is his first known trip outside Syria’s capital in more than a year.


http://www.chch.com/syrias-president-assad-predicts-he-will-win-civil-war/
 
how civilized west supports teh radical monsters



A teenager selling coffee in the northern Syrian city of Aleppo was arrested by Islamist rebel fighters for insulting the Prophet Mohammed, beaten and then executed in front of his family, a watchdog group claims.

The boy, Mohammed Qatta, 14, reportedly refused to give a customer coffee, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported Sunday.

“Even if [Prophet] Mohammed comes back to life, I won’t,” the boy said, who was known by his nickname “Salmo.”

Extremist rebels driving past in a black car overheard the comment, the opposition Aleppo Media Center said. Qatta was taken away by the fighters and later brought back, his head wrapped with his shirt and his body covered with marks from whipping.


Teenager, 14, Executed By Islamist Rebels in Syria - ABC News

imperialist monster is not different from the islamist

being devil's advocate by using " god "
 
Syria's darkest hour: Hundreds of children's bodies piled high after nerve gas attack near Damascus leaves up to 1,300 dead | Mail Online

have a look at this link

they were gassed to death by teh syrian army or radical monsters ?

maybe they are planning to intervene in syria and they created such a scenario to justify their actions as they did in iraq

junior messiah moron had claimed saddam had mass destruction weapons but then they admitted they couldnt find any.

never say never


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DAMN IMPERIALİSM!!!!!!!!!
 
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Guerrilla fighters trained by the West began moving towards Damascus in mid-August, French newspaper Le Figaro reported on Thursday.

Le Figaro reported that this is the reason behind the Assad regime's alleged chemical weapons attack in Damascus on Wednesday morning, as UN inspectors were allowed into the country to investigate allegations of WMD use.

The rebels were trained for several months in a training camp on the Jordanian-Syrian border by CIA operatives, as well as Jordanian and Israeli commandos, the paper said.


http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Re...ed-by-West-are-moving-towards-Damascus-324033
 
Tyhe Muslim Brotherhood has been slaughtering Christians in Egypt and burning churches and no one is paying any attention. The 'liberators' in Libya post Qaddafi have been committing atrocities. Add Syria to the mix and all this really points out is that there ISNT a side to take here.
 
What people fail to realise is that Syria is not a part of the Arab Spring. This was the US capitalising on it and instigating it there because the overthrow of the syrian government is a long time goal of US foreign policy. This was not a civilian uprising like the other places.

Well.....truthfully it was the French. They filed resolutions in the UN as far back as when they did with Libya.

But you are correct in that it was not uprising of the all the people.
 
Tyhe Muslim Brotherhood has been slaughtering Christians in Egypt and burning churches and no one is paying any attention. The 'liberators' in Libya post Qaddafi have been committing atrocities. Add Syria to the mix and all this really points out is that there ISNT a side to take here.

Heya VM.....they have been here in Syria since the get go and behind much of what has taken place with the FSA. Which as in Egypt they have gone after the Christians here too.

Syria's Muslim Brotherhood faces uphill battle.....

For Syria's banned Muslim Brotherhood, the uprising against President Bashar Assad that erupted amid Arab Spring revolts in 2011 provided a long-sought opportunity to stage a comeback after decades spent in exile.

Thirty years earlier, the group's own violent uprising against Assad's father, the late Hafez Assad, was brutally crushed, culminating in an infamous massacre in the city of Hama that ended with the group's leadership killed, imprisoned or exiled.

Amid the chaos of the current revolt, the group quickly emerged as the best organized of Assad's political opponents, and is playing an increasingly active role on the ground by providing assistance to military brigades it supports.

The downfall of the Brotherhood in Egypt has shaken its Syrian counterpart and deepened distrust of the secretive movement by other Syrians who are suspicious of its religious agenda.

Inside Syria, the group faces an uphill battle trying to rebuild its base with the young revolutionaries of today, many of whom view its leadership as aging and out of touch after years away from the country. Moreover, the self-described moderate Islamic group faces fierce competition from better equipped hard-line Salafi fighters and al-Qaida extremists who have emerged as a major force among the ranks of the rebels.

"Despite its rich history of involvement in Syrian politics, for some, the Brotherhood continues to be viewed as a foreign entity merely representing a local branch of the Egyptian movement," said Raphael Lefevre, a visiting fellow at the Carnegie Middle East Center and author of the book "Ashes of Hama: The Muslim Brotherhood in Syria."

Leaders of the Syrian Brotherhood and activists inside Syria say the group has been actively working in that direction. In addition to its pivotal role in shaping and influencing the opposition abroad, it has stepped up relief assistance to rebel-held areas inside the country and its leaders have made several trips to opposition areas in the north in an attempt to reconnect with residents in Idlib and Aleppo provinces, once considered strongholds of the group.

In February, the group launched al-Ahed, a newspaper which now distributes 10,000 copies bi-weekly in opposition territory. Sheik Hatem al-Tabshi, head of the Brotherhood's Shura Council, preaches in the city of Maarat al-Numan and is seen in videos holding meetings with fighters in the area.

Most significantly, an umbrella group of brigades known as the "Shields of the Revolution" has emerged as a military force closely affiliated with the group, although Brotherhood officials deny any formal ties. Activists, however, say the group is preparing to formally launch its military branch in the country.

Tensions within the opposition peaked in March, with critics claiming the Brotherhood orchestrated the election of Ghassan Hitto, a little-known figure, as interim prime minister for the opposition.

About a dozen members of the Coalition suspended their membership a day after Hitto was elected, prompting the Brotherhood's general leader, Mohammad Riad al-Shaqfa, to hold a rare press conference in which he denied the accusations. Since then, the Coalition has been expanded to dilute the influence of the Brotherhood and Hitto has stepped down. Qatar, a main supporter of the group, has taken a back seat in favor of Saudi Arabia in dealing with the Syrian opposition.....snip~

Syria's Muslim Brotherhood faces uphill battle
 
Tyhe Muslim Brotherhood has been slaughtering Christians in Egypt and burning churches and no one is paying any attention. The 'liberators' in Libya post Qaddafi have been committing atrocities. Add Syria to the mix and all this really points out is that there ISNT a side to take here.

Well I'd sooner see the US support Assad then the insurgents and their al Qaida affiliates. But staying out of it completely would be the best.
 
Heya VM.....they have been here in Syria since the get go and behind much of what has taken place with the FSA. Which as in Egypt they have gone after the Christians here too.

Syria's Muslim Brotherhood faces uphill battle.....

For Syria's banned Muslim Brotherhood, the uprising against President Bashar Assad that erupted amid Arab Spring revolts in 2011 provided a long-sought opportunity to stage a comeback after decades spent in exile.

Thirty years earlier, the group's own violent uprising against Assad's father, the late Hafez Assad, was brutally crushed, culminating in an infamous massacre in the city of Hama that ended with the group's leadership killed, imprisoned or exiled.

Amid the chaos of the current revolt, the group quickly emerged as the best organized of Assad's political opponents, and is playing an increasingly active role on the ground by providing assistance to military brigades it supports.

The downfall of the Brotherhood in Egypt has shaken its Syrian counterpart and deepened distrust of the secretive movement by other Syrians who are suspicious of its religious agenda.

Inside Syria, the group faces an uphill battle trying to rebuild its base with the young revolutionaries of today, many of whom view its leadership as aging and out of touch after years away from the country. Moreover, the self-described moderate Islamic group faces fierce competition from better equipped hard-line Salafi fighters and al-Qaida extremists who have emerged as a major force among the ranks of the rebels.

"Despite its rich history of involvement in Syrian politics, for some, the Brotherhood continues to be viewed as a foreign entity merely representing a local branch of the Egyptian movement," said Raphael Lefevre, a visiting fellow at the Carnegie Middle East Center and author of the book "Ashes of Hama: The Muslim Brotherhood in Syria."

Leaders of the Syrian Brotherhood and activists inside Syria say the group has been actively working in that direction. In addition to its pivotal role in shaping and influencing the opposition abroad, it has stepped up relief assistance to rebel-held areas inside the country and its leaders have made several trips to opposition areas in the north in an attempt to reconnect with residents in Idlib and Aleppo provinces, once considered strongholds of the group.

In February, the group launched al-Ahed, a newspaper which now distributes 10,000 copies bi-weekly in opposition territory. Sheik Hatem al-Tabshi, head of the Brotherhood's Shura Council, preaches in the city of Maarat al-Numan and is seen in videos holding meetings with fighters in the area.

Most significantly, an umbrella group of brigades known as the "Shields of the Revolution" has emerged as a military force closely affiliated with the group, although Brotherhood officials deny any formal ties. Activists, however, say the group is preparing to formally launch its military branch in the country.

Tensions within the opposition peaked in March, with critics claiming the Brotherhood orchestrated the election of Ghassan Hitto, a little-known figure, as interim prime minister for the opposition.

About a dozen members of the Coalition suspended their membership a day after Hitto was elected, prompting the Brotherhood's general leader, Mohammad Riad al-Shaqfa, to hold a rare press conference in which he denied the accusations. Since then, the Coalition has been expanded to dilute the influence of the Brotherhood and Hitto has stepped down. Qatar, a main supporter of the group, has taken a back seat in favor of Saudi Arabia in dealing with the Syrian opposition.....snip~

Syria's Muslim Brotherhood faces uphill battle

Btw.....this new battle group to enter the swing of things. Is none other than those who we have been training in Jordan and Turkey. Directly under our supervision. I was thinking which Neo Con or Neo lib came up with the name.
 
Well.....truthfully it was the French. They filed resolutions in the UN as far back as when they did with Libya.

But you are correct in that it was not uprising of the all the people.

I agree regarding the French connection. However, Syria has been in the crosshairs of US foreign policy for some time.



Bolton: "Beyond the Axis of Evil"[edit source | editbeta]

John R. Bolton
On May 6, 2002, then-Undersecretary of State John R. Bolton gave a speech entitled "Beyond the Axis of Evil". In it he added three more nations to be grouped with the already mentioned rogue states: Cuba, Libya, and Syria. The criteria for inclusion in this grouping were: "state sponsors of terrorism that are pursuing or who have the potential to pursue weapons of mass destruction (WMD) or have the capability to do so in violation of their treaty obligations". The speech was widely reported as an expansion of the original axis of evil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil
 
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Btw.....this new battle group to enter the swing of things. Is none other than those who we have been training in Jordan and Turkey. Directly under our supervision. I was thinking which Neo Con or Neo lib came up with the name.

That is correct, note post 18.
 
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