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Syria Chemical Weapon

MMC

Your reply conveys the complex situation in Syria, but what is the driving force of all this tension? According to you it is that there are, "religious, ideological and turf power struggles" throughout the region. Do you have the knowledge to elaborate on the specific nature of the disagreement between these factions?


US Foreign Policy.....has been to play to the Sunni Arabs. The feeling by both Neo Cons and Neo libs is that they are the more moderate and are willing to do business with the west. Which we have been handing over Countries to the Sunni Arabs to run. In effect putting them in power.

Thinking that their revolts could be used to push social reforms for Democracy. This was the mistake. As their beliefs did not rise out of the concept, with a belief in democracy. Nor any of their social reforms. It rises out the concept thru their religion. Not a need to better all of their people.
 
MMC

Your reply conveys the complex situation in Syria, but what is the driving force of all this tension? According to you it is that there are, "religious, ideological and turf power struggles" throughout the region. Do you have the knowledge to elaborate on the specific nature of the disagreement between these factions?

Heya OE.....maybe this can help out. ;)

Syrian Free Army names Salim Idris new chief of staff.....

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Salim Idris told Al Arabiya in a telephone interview that the new command was elected by hundreds of opposition forces

The opposition Free Syrian Army elected a new military command, replacing Colonel Riad al-Asaad with Brigadier General Salim Idris, Al Arabiya television reported early on Monday. Idris told Al Arabiya in a telephone interview that the new command was elected by hundreds of rebels.

The unified command includes many with ties to the Muslim Brotherhood and to Salafists, who follow a puritanical interpretation of Islam. It excludes the most senior officers who have defected from Assad’s military, according to Reuters.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/12/10/254251.html


http://www.debatepolitics.com/middl...st-syria-rebels-not-seeking-democracy-10.html

I know he was a Brig General For Assad who defected along with 30 other officers. Also he is backed by the MB and Salafists.
 
MMC

Your reply conveys the complex situation in Syria, but what is the driving force of all this tension? According to you it is that there are, "religious, ideological and turf power struggles" throughout the region. Do you have the knowledge to elaborate on the specific nature of the disagreement between these factions?


Never ignore the fact that "War is good business" and that those that profit from wars actively conspire to foment rebellion, instability, insurrection, chaos and death wherever it will generate the most profit. Keep in the forefront of your mind that the US is the largest arms merchant in the World. That means that more US Merchants of Death will profit from almost any war and with Iraq and Afghanistan winding down, proactive marketing in alternative geographical areas is necessary to maintain profits, market share, etc. "War is good business, and business is good."
 
Heya RD. :2wave: Is there a link that validates that? Are you sure the demonstration wasn't set up by the MB?

Hi, yes i knew I forgot something :mrgreen: you can trace the history of the uprising here Civil uprising phase of the Syrian civil war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ultimately I don't have any evidence that these demonstrations were set up by the MB but then again I don't have any evidence that they were not plotted by trolls living deep below the earth's surface. Until any other evidence comes to light I think we can safely assume that these demonstrations were set up by people who were pissed of about decades of dictatorial rule. Though that's not to say that multiple parties have not attempted to hijack the uprising after it started, including ourselves.
 
Hi, yes i knew I forgot something :mrgreen: you can trace the history of the uprising here Civil uprising phase of the Syrian civil war - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ultimately I don't have any evidence that these demonstrations were set up by the MB but then again I don't have any evidence that they were not plotted by trolls living deep below the earth's surface. Until any other evidence comes to light I think we can safely assume that these demonstrations were set up by people who were pissed of about decades of dictatorial rule. Though that's not to say that multiple parties have not attempted to hijack the uprising after it started, including ourselves.

Well I can understand that and with the trolls and all.....but then also at the beginning they had the Sunni Rebels themselves that Admitted their backing came from the MB and the Salafists..... most think were given word to go out and attack those Christians. Causing for a response from Assad and his security forces. Do you think it can be proved one way or another? Besides the Christian Survivors that is.

Do you think the gnomes were digging to deep when looking for the actual break off of the 30 Officers that had defected from Assad?
 
Well I can understand that and with the trolls and all.....but then also at the beginning they had the Sunni Rebels themselves that Admitted their backing came from the MB and the Salafists..... most think were given word to go out and attack those Christians. Causing for a response from Assad and his security forces. Do you think it can be proved one way or another? Besides the Christian Survivors that is.

Do you think the gnomes were digging to deep when looking for the actual break off of the 30 Officers that had defected from Assad?

Well at the beginning there were no rebels, only protesters. That is until the regime started killing them. Sectarian violence has been a symptom of the war, not a a cause. If you read up on the different rebel groups here you will find Christian groups among them Syrian opposition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . Doubtless there are Islamist groups involved at all levels and this is unsurprising given the amount of Saudi money involved at the top (though clearly they are not uniformally Islamists, otherwise Al Nusra wouldnt be killing them) but that's all the more reason that secular groups should prevail.
 
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Never ignore the fact that "War is good business" and that those that profit from wars actively conspire to foment rebellion, instability, insurrection, chaos and death wherever it will generate the most profit. Keep in the forefront of your mind that the US is the largest arms merchant in the World. That means that more US Merchants of Death will profit from almost any war and with Iraq and Afghanistan winding down, proactive marketing in alternative geographical areas is necessary to maintain profits, market share, etc. "War is good business, and business is good."

The U.S had ulterior motives for intervening in ww2 also and yet somehow i don't begrudge them for it.
 
Well at the beginning there where no rebels, only protesters. That is until the regime started killing them. Sectarian violence has been a symptom of the war, not a a cause. If you read up on the different rebel groups here you will find Christian groups among them Syrian opposition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . Doubtless there are Islamist groups involved at all levels and this is unsurprising given the amount of Saudi money involved at the top (though clearly they are not uniformally Islamists, otherwise Al Nusra wouldnt be killing them) but that's all the more reason that secular groups should prevail.

But we know there were still struggles that had been brought on from when Assad's Father was in Power. Which over 3 years ago the activism started taking place. Then when Syria was to be put on the UN Human Rights Council. Which France jumped on the Lead with that filing of a resolution in the UN to get them removed.


Syria's Muslim Brotherhood faces uphill battle.....

For Syria's banned Muslim Brotherhood, the uprising against President Bashar Assad that erupted amid Arab Spring revolts in 2011 provided a long-sought opportunity to stage a comeback after decades spent in exile.

Thirty years earlier, the group's own violent uprising against Assad's father, the late Hafez Assad, was brutally crushed, culminating in an infamous massacre in the city of Hama that ended with the group's leadership killed, imprisoned or exiled.

Amid the chaos of the current revolt, the group quickly emerged as the best organized of Assad's political opponents, and is playing an increasingly active role on the ground by providing assistance to military brigades it supports.

The downfall of the Brotherhood in Egypt has shaken its Syrian counterpart and deepened distrust of the secretive movement by other Syrians who are suspicious of its religious agenda.

Inside Syria, the group faces an uphill battle trying to rebuild its base with the young revolutionaries of today, many of whom view its leadership as aging and out of touch after years away from the country. Moreover, the self-described moderate Islamic group faces fierce competition from better equipped hard-line Salafi fighters and al-Qaida extremists who have emerged as a major force among the ranks of the rebels.

"Despite its rich history of involvement in Syrian politics, for some, the Brotherhood continues to be viewed as a foreign entity merely representing a local branch of the Egyptian movement," said Raphael Lefevre, a visiting fellow at the Carnegie Middle East Center and author of the book "Ashes of Hama: The Muslim Brotherhood in Syria."

Leaders of the Syrian Brotherhood and activists inside Syria say the group has been actively working in that direction. In addition to its pivotal role in shaping and influencing the opposition abroad, it has stepped up relief assistance to rebel-held areas inside the country and its leaders have made several trips to opposition areas in the north in an attempt to reconnect with residents in Idlib and Aleppo provinces, once considered strongholds of the group.

In February, the group launched al-Ahed, a newspaper which now distributes 10,000 copies bi-weekly in opposition territory. Sheik Hatem al-Tabshi, head of the Brotherhood's Shura Council, preaches in the city of Maarat al-Numan and is seen in videos holding meetings with fighters in the area.

Most significantly, an umbrella group of brigades known as the "Shields of the Revolution" has emerged as a military force closely affiliated with the group, although Brotherhood officials deny any formal ties. Activists, however, say the group is preparing to formally launch its military branch in the country.

Tensions within the opposition peaked in March, with critics claiming the Brotherhood orchestrated the election of Ghassan Hitto, a little-known figure, as interim prime minister for the opposition.

About a dozen members of the Coalition suspended their membership a day after Hitto was elected, prompting the Brotherhood's general leader, Mohammad Riad al-Shaqfa, to hold a rare press conference in which he denied the accusations. Since then, the Coalition has been expanded to dilute the influence of the Brotherhood and Hitto has stepped down. Qatar, a main supporter of the group, has taken a back seat in favor of Saudi Arabia in dealing with the Syrian opposition.....snip~

Syria's Muslim Brotherhood faces uphill battle

http://www.debatepolitics.com/middl...-splits-nation-into-3-distinct-regions-2.html
 
But we know there were still struggles that had been brought on from when Assad's Father was in Power. Which over 3 years ago the activism started taking place. Then when Syria was to be put on the UN Human Rights Council. Which France jumped on the Lead with that filing of a resolution in the UN to get them removed.


Syria's Muslim Brotherhood faces uphill battle.....

For Syria's banned Muslim Brotherhood, the uprising against President Bashar Assad that erupted amid Arab Spring revolts in 2011 provided a long-sought opportunity to stage a comeback after decades spent in exile.

Thirty years earlier, the group's own violent uprising against Assad's father, the late Hafez Assad, was brutally crushed, culminating in an infamous massacre in the city of Hama that ended with the group's leadership killed, imprisoned or exiled.

Amid the chaos of the current revolt, the group quickly emerged as the best organized of Assad's political opponents, and is playing an increasingly active role on the ground by providing assistance to military brigades it supports.

The downfall of the Brotherhood in Egypt has shaken its Syrian counterpart and deepened distrust of the secretive movement by other Syrians who are suspicious of its religious agenda.

Inside Syria, the group faces an uphill battle trying to rebuild its base with the young revolutionaries of today, many of whom view its leadership as aging and out of touch after years away from the country. Moreover, the self-described moderate Islamic group faces fierce competition from better equipped hard-line Salafi fighters and al-Qaida extremists who have emerged as a major force among the ranks of the rebels.

"Despite its rich history of involvement in Syrian politics, for some, the Brotherhood continues to be viewed as a foreign entity merely representing a local branch of the Egyptian movement," said Raphael Lefevre, a visiting fellow at the Carnegie Middle East Center and author of the book "Ashes of Hama: The Muslim Brotherhood in Syria."

Leaders of the Syrian Brotherhood and activists inside Syria say the group has been actively working in that direction. In addition to its pivotal role in shaping and influencing the opposition abroad, it has stepped up relief assistance to rebel-held areas inside the country and its leaders have made several trips to opposition areas in the north in an attempt to reconnect with residents in Idlib and Aleppo provinces, once considered strongholds of the group.

In February, the group launched al-Ahed, a newspaper which now distributes 10,000 copies bi-weekly in opposition territory. Sheik Hatem al-Tabshi, head of the Brotherhood's Shura Council, preaches in the city of Maarat al-Numan and is seen in videos holding meetings with fighters in the area.

Most significantly, an umbrella group of brigades known as the "Shields of the Revolution" has emerged as a military force closely affiliated with the group, although Brotherhood officials deny any formal ties. Activists, however, say the group is preparing to formally launch its military branch in the country.

Tensions within the opposition peaked in March, with critics claiming the Brotherhood orchestrated the election of Ghassan Hitto, a little-known figure, as interim prime minister for the opposition.

About a dozen members of the Coalition suspended their membership a day after Hitto was elected, prompting the Brotherhood's general leader, Mohammad Riad al-Shaqfa, to hold a rare press conference in which he denied the accusations. Since then, the Coalition has been expanded to dilute the influence of the Brotherhood and Hitto has stepped down. Qatar, a main supporter of the group, has taken a back seat in favor of Saudi Arabia in dealing with the Syrian opposition.....snip~

Syria's Muslim Brotherhood faces uphill battle

http://www.debatepolitics.com/middl...-splits-nation-into-3-distinct-regions-2.html

I have never disputed any of that.
 
The U.S had ulterior motives for intervening in ww2 also and yet somehow i don't begrudge them for it.


Nor do I, except in today's World, I see the USA more like Hitler than the good guys who came to help Europe and Britain. Same modus operandi, however, as the Lusitania, cause celebre for USA intervention, was carrying weapons and it was claimed by the media that it was just a passenger ship. Some things don't change.
 
This war was started by Assad when he fired on peaceful demonstrators, was the US responsible for that was well? maybe they caused the drought which preceded the numerous **** ups the people were protesting as well?

Actually the protests were violent, back in 2011.

Bloody Syrian Protests Continue - Defense/Middle East - News - Israel National News

On Friday police opened fire on armed protesters killing four and injuring as many as 100 others. According to one witness, who spoke to the press on condition of anonymity, “They used live ammunition immediately — no tear gas or anything else.”

[...]

In an uncharacteristic gesture intended to ease tensions the government offered to release the detained students, but seven police officers were killed, and the Baath Party Headquarters and courthouse were torched, in renewed violence on Sunday.


In regards to the use of chemical weapons, there seems to be serious doubt surrounding some of the videos released which accuse the regime of chemical attacks.

From the Hindustan Times, but cross-posted from AFP: Syria: 1,300 killed in gas attack, says Oppn - Hindustan Times

And in videos posted on YouTube, the Syrian Revolution General Commission, another activist group, showed what it called "a terrible massacre committed by regime forces with toxic gas."

The attack "led to suffocation of the children and overcrowding field hospitals with hundreds of casualties amid extreme shortage of medical supplies to rescue the victims, particularly atropine," the LCC said.

In one video, children are seen being given first aid in a field hospital, notably oxygen to help them breathe. Doctors appear to be trying to resuscitate unconscious children.

Specialists in the impact of chemical weapons said the video evidence was not entirely convincing.

“At the moment, I am not totally convinced because the people that are helping them are without any protective clothing and without any respirators,” said Paula Vanninen, director of Verifin, the Finnish Institute for Verification of the Chemical Weapons Convention.

“In a real case, they would also be contaminated and would also be having symptoms.”

John Hart, head of the Chemical and Biological Security Project at Stockholm International Peace Research Institute said he had not seen the telltale evidence in the eyes of the victims that would be compelling evidence of chemical weapons use.

“Of the videos that I’ve seen for the last few hours, none of them show pinpoint pupils… this would indicate exposure to organophosphorus nerve agents,” he said.

Gwyn Winfield, editor of CBRNe World magazine, which specialises in chemical weapons issues, said the evidence did not suggest that the chemicals used were of the weapons-grade that the Syrian army possesses in its stockpiles.

“We’re not seeing reports that doctors and nurses… are becoming fatalities, so that would suggest that the toxicity of it isn’t what we would consider military sarin. It may well be that it is a lower-grade,” Winfield told AFP.


Stephen Johnson, an expert in weapons and chemical explosives at Cranfield Forensic Institute, has argued that some of the videos look suspect.

Expert casts doubt on Syria chemical weapons footage | euronews, world news

"There are, within some of the videos, examples which seem a little hyper-real, and almost as if they’ve been set up. Which is not to say that they are fake but it does cause some concern. Some of the people with foaming, the foam seems to be too white, too pure, and not consistent with the sort of internal injury you might expect to see, which you’d expect to be bloodier or yellower."
 
Actually the protests were violent, back in 2011.

Bloody Syrian Protests Continue - Defense/Middle East - News - Israel National News

On Friday police opened fire on armed protesters killing four and injuring as many as 100 others. According to one witness, who spoke to the press on condition of anonymity, “They used live ammunition immediately — no tear gas or anything else.”

[...]

In an uncharacteristic gesture intended to ease tensions the government offered to release the detained students, but seven police officers were killed, and the Baath Party Headquarters and courthouse were torched, in renewed violence on Sunday.


In regards to the use of chemical weapons, there seems to be serious doubt surrounding some of the videos released which accuse the regime of chemical attacks.

From the Hindustan Times, but cross-posted from AFP: Syria: 1,300 killed in gas attack, says*Oppn - Hindustan Times

Stephen Johnson, an expert in weapons and chemical explosives at Cranfield Forensic Institute, has argued that some of the videos look suspect.

Expert casts doubt on Syria chemical weapons footage | euronews, world news

"There are, within some of the videos, examples which seem a little hyper-real, and almost as if they’ve been set up. Which is not to say that they are fake but it does cause some concern. Some of the people with foaming, the foam seems to be too white, too pure, and not consistent with the sort of internal injury you might expect to see, which you’d expect to be bloodier or yellower."



Heya Invisible :2wave: Also several times Assad's security forces were attacked. Which we know it wasn't by the Christians. Plus, the Russians did report an unknown chemical as well as a homemade Rocket. From the Russians 2 days ago.


Russia urged the Syrian government and the United Nations on Thursday to agree on a visit by chemical weapons experts to the site of an alleged gas attack by troops loyal to President Bashar al-Assad that killed hundreds of people.

Russia, Assad's strongest ally during the more-than-two-year-old conflict, has said that civilians were killed by "a homemade rocket loaded with an unidentified chemical agent" and that the attack was likely a provocation by opposition forces meant to place blame on the Syrian president.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said Syria's position on sending inspectors to the site of the reported attack should be respected but dismissed the suggestion that Russia would object to such an investigation.

"The group of observers are already in place. Such a position was agreed upon in the U.N. Security Council. How can we object? We, quite the opposite, have an interest in the investigation into what happened happen objectively," he said.

"(The United Nations and Syria) have agreed on cooperation in three areas. If there is a need to achieve clarification in this case - and judging by everything, there is - then they need to agree," he told a news conference

Moscow has also demanded that a U.N. investigation into the alleged use of chemical weapons in Syria also look into possible use by rebels.....snip~

Russia: Syria, U.N. should agree on inquiry into alleged chemical attack | Reuters

http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...obama-moves-us-naval-forces-closer-syria.html
 
We need to stay out of Syria. We can not give arms to the terrorists fighting Assad. When both sides are evil we have to sit back and let them do their thing. There is nothing for the US to gain in getting involved in Syria anyhow.
 
Syrian rebels manufactured chemical weapons outside Damascus - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video

"Journalist Yara Saleh of the Al-Ihbariya Syrian information channel provided The Voice of Russia with more details about this discovery.

“The rebels launched two missiles filled with poisonous gas in the Jobar neighbourhood which caused Syrian soldiers’ nausea and asphyxia.

Some time later when the Syrian army managed to take that suburb by storm they found the warehouse and laboratory where shells were stored and stuffed with poisonous agents. Boxes with new gas masks were also found, they carried labels ‘Made in US’. The fact that the rebels did not use those gas masks proves that they had not been attacked with any poisonous gases.

Two glass vessels with labels ‘Made in Saudi Arabia’ were also found there. Weapons and explosives made in Saudi Arabia were found in Syria in the past as well. Experts will determine the contents of those vessels.

In addition, they found plastic vessels containing unidentified chemicals, some strange white powder and a lot of various explosives and munitions."

Syrian rebels manufactured chemical weapons outside Damascus - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video

Read the article in full. This sure sounds like a plausible scenario. I've watched the Mainstream Media project the imagery that Syria and Assad are the bad guys, but it just isn't so. They're feeding us mushrooms again. If you can't verify info with an outside source, don't believe it.
 
Syrian rebels manufactured chemical weapons outside Damascus - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video

"Journalist Yara Saleh of the Al-Ihbariya Syrian information channel provided The Voice of Russia with more details about this discovery.

“The rebels launched two missiles filled with poisonous gas in the Jobar neighbourhood which caused Syrian soldiers’ nausea and asphyxia.

Some time later when the Syrian army managed to take that suburb by storm they found the warehouse and laboratory where shells were stored and stuffed with poisonous agents. Boxes with new gas masks were also found, they carried labels ‘Made in US’. The fact that the rebels did not use those gas masks proves that they had not been attacked with any poisonous gases.

Two glass vessels with labels ‘Made in Saudi Arabia’ were also found there. Weapons and explosives made in Saudi Arabia were found in Syria in the past as well. Experts will determine the contents of those vessels.

In addition, they found plastic vessels containing unidentified chemicals, some strange white powder and a lot of various explosives and munitions."

Syrian rebels manufactured chemical weapons outside Damascus - News - World - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video

Read the article in full. This sure sounds like a plausible scenario. I've watched the Mainstream Media project the imagery that Syria and Assad are the bad guys, but it just isn't so. They're feeding us mushrooms again. If you can't verify info with an outside source, don't believe it.

LOL, russian and syrian TV, yeah THEY'RE credible sources.

Can't wait for the war criminal assad to die, and with that, iran the cancer is next...
 
LOL, russian and syrian TV, yeah THEY'RE credible sources.

Can't wait for the war criminal assad to die, and with that, iran the cancer is next...



BBC News - Syria to allow UN to inspect 'chemical weapons' site

The fact that rebels possessed chemical weapons is known.
They even threatened Syrian people since December 2012.

UN itself (Carla Del Ponte) after an investigation, accused the rebels in May that they were using chemical weapons.

Because they are Russian/Syrian sources, it doesn't mean it not credible at all. That's pathetic.
You can evaluate yourself if a source is credible or not. No one forces you to obey the source.

One month ago you wouldn't believe all the sources who claimed that CIA was behind Iran's coup.
As well, as you don't believe now that was CIA who brought to power Saddam Hussein with a coup. (ofc until your media says so)
 
Today I have read some articles dedicated to accusation of Bashar al-Assad's forces of launching a nerve gas attack on rebel-held districts near Damascus. Is it coincidence that such accusation appears as a U.N. chemical weapons team investigates the possible use of chemical agents in Syria?! Such unconfirmed news only escalates the situation in region.

Syria True Story - Documentary - YouTube This is a real documentary footage related to rebels' activity.

In addition senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham encouraged Obama to provide lethal assistance to the rebels. “The President’s red line has been crossed,” they said."Now is the time for more decisive actions.”

I have nothing to say )

mccain must be an islamist muslim like obama
 
The fact that rebels possessed chemical weapons is known.

So they captured some canisters or scraps left in bunkers or military bases, they have no way of delivering them using rockets the way this last attack came.

UN itself (Carla Del Ponte) after an investigation, accused the rebels in May that they were using chemical weapons.

WRONG. The UN indicated nothing except that it is possible the rebels MAY have used them, but they cannot say for sure. And they would be smart to do so, since investigating chem weapons usage too many day/weeks or months AFTER they were used is USELESS.

Because they are Russian/Syrian sources, it doesn't mean it not credible at all. That's pathetic.

State-controlled propaganda outlets like those in iran or russia are non-credible.

One month ago you wouldn't believe all the sources who claimed that CIA was behind Iran's coup.

How would you know what I believed about anything one month ago?

As well, as you don't believe now that was CIA who brought to power Saddam Hussein with a coup. (ofc until your media says so)

Which has what to do with Syria?
 
So they captured some canisters or scraps left in bunkers or military bases, they have no way of delivering them using rockets the way this last attack came.
WRONG. The UN indicated nothing except that it is possible the rebels MAY have used them, but they cannot say for sure. And they would be smart to do so, since investigating chem weapons usage too many day/weeks or months AFTER they were used is USELESS.
State-controlled propaganda outlets like those in iran or russia are non-credible.
How would you know what I believed about anything one month ago?
Which has what to do with Syria?
Private's media or state's media is used and will always be used by politics.
My point was, that you believe so much in your media and only. (when i say you,i mean it in generally).

Reason i mentioned, Iran/Iraq is that ..... when people were talking about Iran coup and CIA involvement, many people just like you're doing now, were saying: oh well, Russia said that, nothing to believe.
Lately, that CIA admitted it itself suddenly it become a truth.

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Point is: You keep looking for traces while the wolf is in front of you.
 
LOL, russian and syrian TV, yeah THEY'RE credible sources.

Can't wait for the war criminal assad to die, and with that, iran the cancer is next...

Be patient. Your media will update you on what to think pretty soon.. Fight those facts and go with the flow. Make sure you get your info from a commercialized agenda oriented source. Don't let facts get involved. The Church Committee revealed 400 CIA operatives in Mainstream Media manufacturing as reporters, editors, owners, etc. Gee, I wonder why.
 
Be patient. Your media will update you on what to think pretty soon.. Fight those facts and go with the flow. Make sure you get your info from a commercialized agenda oriented source. Don't let facts get involved. The Church Committee revealed 400 CIA operatives in Mainstream Media manufacturing as reporters, editors, owners, etc. Gee, I wonder why.

Uh, since you know nothing of my background or who I am, there's little point in even a conversation here. I don't even read US- based media, but why let facts get in the way of ridiculous comments like yours?

And where's the evidence for 400 planted operatives?
 
It doesnt add up why would the Syrian gov use a chemical weapon when the UN investigators are there and very close to the area where the UN is inspecting.... Doesnt add up one bit..
 
It doesnt add up why would the Syrian gov use a chemical weapon when the UN investigators are there and very close to the area where the UN is inspecting.... Doesnt add up one bit..

Given that his forces have massacred thousands for years without anyone in the West taking action, and with russia and china providing political cover, why would they be concerned about dropping chemical-laced bombs? Assad is a dog who figured that the sec'y general himself could have waltzed through damascus at the moment the rockets fell and it wouldn't have mattered.
 
Given that his forces have massacred thousands for years without anyone in the West taking action, and with russia and china providing political cover, why would they be concerned about dropping chemical-laced bombs? Assad is a dog who figured that the sec'y general himself could have waltzed through damascus at the moment the rockets fell and it wouldn't have mattered.

Why would he drop a bomb in a war he is already winning?
 
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