• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Syria bans full Islamic face veils at universities

TheNextEra

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 14, 2006
Messages
16,575
Reaction score
6,767
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Good for Syria. It seems to be a popular thing to do. Now if they could find the testicular fortitude to ban the satanic quran that would really be something.

Now if people would ban Satanic Hate such as yourself, the world would be a better place. Be gone devil.

It is ironic, that people like you (who claim that Islam is full of hate) hate a religion with soo much more hate and intolerance.
 
Last edited:

MaggieD

DP Veteran
Joined
Jul 9, 2010
Messages
43,244
Reaction score
44,664
Location
Chicago Area
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Moderate
I think these bans are a gross infringement on a woman's rights. I can see banning them in certain places where security is an issue -- like banks, currency exchanges and the like. But to ban a woman's religious symbol for any other reason but security is just, well, wrong. Don't get too excited, Sgt, it won't be happening in the USA.
 

digsbe

Truth will set you free
Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
May 13, 2009
Messages
20,533
Reaction score
14,752
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
Good for Syria. It seems to be a popular thing to do. Now if they could find the testicular fortitude to ban the satanic quran that would really be something.

Syria bans full Islamic face veils at universities - Yahoo! News

They were wrong to ban the face veils. It's an infringement on women's rights. Not only that but it reduces cultural freedom and religious freedom (as some wear it for religious reasons). I highly doubt they will ban the Koran too, nor should they. Syria is 90% Muslim, and it would be a horrid infringement on people's freedom of religion to ban the Koran.
 

RedAkston

Master of Shenanigans
Administrator
Moderator
Dungeon Master
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Monthly Donator
Joined
Oct 12, 2007
Messages
51,848
Reaction score
34,672
Location
MS Gulf Coast
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
Moderator's Warning:
A thread ban has been issued for TheNextEra for violation of martial law.
 

Arcana XV

DP Veteran
Joined
May 31, 2007
Messages
6,405
Reaction score
4,811
Location
Geneva, Switzerland and Rochester, NY
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Independent
:roll: Lovely. The girls who refuse to take it off won't be able to go to university anymore. That's a good thing, right? Right? Who needs an education anyhoo?
 

TacticalEvilDan

Shankmasta Killa
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 16, 2008
Messages
10,443
Reaction score
4,479
Location
Western NY and Geneva, CH
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
Good for Syria. It seems to be a popular thing to do. Now if they could find the testicular fortitude to ban the satanic quran that would really be something.

Even were I to accept the premise that the Qur'an is Satanic, which I most certainly do not, I would find myself obligated to ask which is more Satanic:
  • The Qur'an
  • Blind hatred of Islam


TED,
Pretty sure that the answer is obvious to reasonable people.
 

Laila

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 20, 2008
Messages
10,101
Reaction score
2,990
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Liberal
Oh why am I not surprised it is you Sgt that is posting another thread about Islam.
Taken a break from burning Qu'ran's and hating on Muslims?

Oh and on topic.
The law will not last, especially in a Muslim majority country if a fuss is kicked up.
This is as wrong as France banning the burka.
 

digsbe

Truth will set you free
Moderator
DP Veteran
Joined
May 13, 2009
Messages
20,533
Reaction score
14,752
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
:roll: Lovely. The girls who refuse to take it off won't be able to go to university anymore. That's a good thing, right? Right? Who needs an education anyhoo?

Don't many believe the veil oppresses women and that is their reason for banning it? I find it hypocritical that they would deny women an education for choosing to wear the face veil. Their "improvement" of womens rights only further harms women by restricting their freedom to wear the veil and denying them a college education for choosing to wear one.
 

Arcana XV

DP Veteran
Joined
May 31, 2007
Messages
6,405
Reaction score
4,811
Location
Geneva, Switzerland and Rochester, NY
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Independent
Don't many believe the veil oppresses women and that is their reason for banning it? I find it hypocritical that they would deny women an education for choosing to wear the face veil. Their "improvement" of womens rights only further harms women by restricting their freedom to wear the veil and denying them a college education for choosing to wear one.

I know, right?

The article also kinda debunks the myth of the oppressed, uneducated Muslim woman being forced to wear face covering veils, stay home and do her husband's bidding. The women in the article don't sound either oppressed or uneducated to me.
 

lizzie

DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 22, 2009
Messages
28,580
Reaction score
31,554
Location
between two worlds
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Libertarian
Looking at the issue as an outsider, and not intimately involved in the situation, maybe this is some type of attempt at separating church and state in a manner of speaking. I have a couple of casual friends who are from Syria, and they are highly educated, reasonable, and while they practice Islam, they are fairly secular in certain respects. I don't know if this is typical of Syrians living in Syria, but perhaps this is really more of a progressive move in government and separating religion from higher education rather than an attempt to stifle women's rights. Just a thought. Not everyone in the ME is a Muslim fundie.
 

obvious Child

Equal Opportunity Hater
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 8, 2008
Messages
19,883
Reaction score
5,120
Location
0.0, -2.3 on the Political Compass
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Other
Good for Syria. It seems to be a popular thing to do. Now if they could find the testicular fortitude to ban the satanic quran that would really be something.

Syria bans full Islamic face veils at universities - Yahoo! News

You do understand that Syria is arguebly one of the most secular countries in the Middle East no?

You do understand that Syria literally flattened an entire city to quell an Islamic revolt no?

If Syria didn't export its terrorists, they'd be one of our best buddies. In many ways, Syria is far more draconian to Islam then we were in our darkest days in Iraq.
 

obvious Child

Equal Opportunity Hater
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 8, 2008
Messages
19,883
Reaction score
5,120
Location
0.0, -2.3 on the Political Compass
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Other
They were wrong to ban the face veils.

It's hardly the worst thing the Druze Syrian Elite have done to Muslims.

It's an infringement on women's rights. Not only that but it reduces cultural freedom and religious freedom (as some wear it for religious reasons). I highly doubt they will ban the Koran too, nor should they. Syria is 90% Muslim, and it would be a horrid infringement on people's freedom of religion to ban the Koran.

The problem Syria faces is that it as you say, is reducing womens' rights. One of the few countries in the area with a subsantial amount of rights. But at the same time, it is essentially doing what it always has done, suppress radical Islam. Assad is not as bad as his father was to Muslims, but I don't see banning the Koran entirely out of the question. Really unrealistic yes, but I don't put it past him. Or at least putting out a government version.

Hell, if you think what we did to Muslims was bad in Iraq, you ain't seen nothing till you get to Syria.
 

SgtRock

Cancel Cancel Culture and Woke Supremacy
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 6, 2007
Messages
7,025
Reaction score
2,895
Location
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Even were I to accept the premise that the Qur'an is Satanic, which I most certainly do not, I would find myself obligated to ask which is more Satanic:
  • The Qur'an
  • Blind hatred of Islam


TED,
Pretty sure that the answer is obvious to reasonable people.

Blind hatred of any religion is just plain wrong. That is why I recommend years of hard work and research before forming an opinion on a subject. This is how I came to my conclusion that Islam is evil.
 

Laila

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 20, 2008
Messages
10,101
Reaction score
2,990
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Liberal
Blind hatred of any religion is just plain wrong. That is why I recommend years of hard work and research before forming an opinion on a subject. This is how I came to my conclusion that Islam is evil.

:lamo

I don't know what you call hard work but I doubt it.
I also doubt you have ever stepped foot in a Mosque let alone "research"

Question.
Does this constitute as "blind hatred"

You have convinced me that my hatred for Islam is justified as is my hatred for the muslim.
 

Apocalypse

DEATH TO ANTARCTICA!!!
DP Veteran
Joined
May 14, 2009
Messages
20,848
Reaction score
6,551
Location
Israel
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Centrist
The action was taken by the Syrian Higher education minister and will only affect on the students of the Syrian universities.
I find it to be a very well-made decision, considering that universities are culturally a symbol of progress.
Doesn't sit well with a full-body blanket that's meant to show the woman where she belongs, under the authority of the male.

On the same subject, here's a detailed explanation on the "progress" in relation to the female students' clothing in the Cairo university during the years - a very interesting article:

http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/05/how-the-veil-conquered-cairo-university/
 
Last edited:

TacticalEvilDan

Shankmasta Killa
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 16, 2008
Messages
10,443
Reaction score
4,479
Location
Western NY and Geneva, CH
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
Blind hatred of any religion is just plain wrong. That is why I recommend years of hard work and research before forming an opinion on a subject. This is how I came to my conclusion that Islam is evil.

If you really had put in years of hard work and research before forming an opinion on the subject, you would've concluded that Islam is no more evil than any of the other major monotheistic religions.
 

Shayah

יותר מקו
Joined
Jul 16, 2006
Messages
865
Reaction score
388
Location
תל אביב
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Centrist
Has anyone else also wondered why the physicality of a woman has long been considered to be more powerful than that of a man?
 

Mira

DP Veteran
Joined
May 17, 2009
Messages
3,629
Reaction score
796
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
Fair enough. Point is Assad and his lackeys aren't Muslim. Probably the #1 reason why Syria has some strong support for secular and minority religious rights

The Alawites are Muslim .
 

ido_

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 13, 2010
Messages
3,406
Reaction score
1,561
Location
Israel
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
By some and so are the Shi'ites.
But they are still Muslim

"Some" being the majority of the Muslim world, half or an irrelevant part of it?
 
Top Bottom