• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every persons position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Swamp Creature, Matt Gaetz

calamity

Privileged
Supporting Member
Monthly Subscriber
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 12, 2013
Messages
144,000
Reaction score
47,231
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist
Let's be real for a minute.
Gaetz, who really is one of the sleazier and more reckless creatures to ooze out of the swamp in recent years, is also said to have bragged about his escapades on the House floor, reportedly showing colleagues nude pictures and videos of women he claimed to have slept with. His conduct in the Florida state legislature, where he and a group of young male colleagues reportedly used a points system for their sexual adventures, was, according to Fox News, "an open secret" in Tallahassee. In other words, there is no plausible deniability here for Republican leaders.
Ok? Now we are clear. Matt is a swamp creature, one of Trump's favorites before the news of his asshole nature became public. Remember this image with Second Daughter?


So, other than Matt being slime, what's the lesson here? That's easy.
...there is definitely something about the generalized seediness of MAGAworld that seems to attract a disproportionate share of the country's unprincipled, exploitative grifters, fundamentally immoral people who feed off of group dynamics in which transgressors normalize antisocial behavior and create a permission structure for others to follow them into the muck. The takeover of the Republican Party by Donald Trump...
Remember, Trump is the guy who ripped off his supporters with one of those "check the hard to find box or we'll continue pulling money out of your account until its empty" schemes. Grifter in Chief attracted the worst people.

 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
68,879
Reaction score
27,040
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
I wonder, since I haven't followed this story at all, if you can tell me: Did Gaetz use the power of his congressional position in any of this "immoral" behavior? You know...like Cuomo?

The answer to that question will define whether Gaetz is or is not a "swamp creature".
 

calamity

Privileged
Supporting Member
Monthly Subscriber
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 12, 2013
Messages
144,000
Reaction score
47,231
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist
I wonder, since I haven't followed this story at all, if you can tell me: Did Gaetz use the power of his congressional position in any of this "immoral" behavior? You know...like Cuomo?

The answer to that question will define whether Gaetz is or is not a "swamp creature".
Coumo is not in Congress. Fail less.
 

Allan

Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2019
Messages
5,797
Reaction score
4,895
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Liberal
I wonder, since I haven't followed this story at all, if you can tell me: Did Gaetz use the power of his congressional position in any of this "immoral" behavior? You know...like Cuomo?

The answer to that question will define whether Gaetz is or is not a "swamp creature".
No one is supporting Cuomo.
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
68,879
Reaction score
27,040
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
It's telling when "whataboutism" is all they have.
No whataboutism. I just asked a simple question.

Do you have an answer?
 

calamity

Privileged
Supporting Member
Monthly Subscriber
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 12, 2013
Messages
144,000
Reaction score
47,231
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
68,879
Reaction score
27,040
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Why are you supporting a man who sex trafficked a minor?
Who said I support him?

You STILL don't have an answer to my question, do you?
 

calamity

Privileged
Supporting Member
Monthly Subscriber
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 12, 2013
Messages
144,000
Reaction score
47,231
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist
Cuomo is a powerful politician.
He's neither a congressman nor is he accused of trafficking minors and passing around his cell phone with pornographic images of sexual conquests on it like Matt Gaetz did. Fail less.
 

calamity

Privileged
Supporting Member
Monthly Subscriber
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 12, 2013
Messages
144,000
Reaction score
47,231
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist
Who said I support him?

You STILL don't have an answer to my question, do you?
You have no questions, just lies and misdirection.
 

calamity

Privileged
Supporting Member
Monthly Subscriber
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 12, 2013
Messages
144,000
Reaction score
47,231
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist
I didn't lie...I asked a question.

You have no answer?
Sure you did. Your first post was clearly "whataboutism," and when called on it, you lied by denying it.
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
68,879
Reaction score
27,040
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
He's neither a congressman nor is he accused of trafficking minors and passing around his cell phone with pornographic images of sexual conquests on it like Matt Gaetz did. Fail less.
Cuomo has been accused of using his political power against women. That's what my question is about.

STILL no answer?
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
68,879
Reaction score
27,040
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
yawn...

There you have it folks...

Claims made of a person being a "swamp creature", but when questioned about it, all they can do is avoid the question.

/thread
 

RabidAlpaca

Engineer
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 4, 2012
Messages
21,940
Reaction score
28,445
Location
American Refugee in Europe
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
I wonder, since I haven't followed this story at all, if you can tell me: Did Gaetz use the power of his congressional position in any of this "immoral" behavior? You know...like Cuomo?
The answer to that question will define whether Gaetz is or is not a "swamp creature".
I like the part where you put immoral in quotation marks when referring to diddling kids.
 

calamity

Privileged
Supporting Member
Monthly Subscriber
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 12, 2013
Messages
144,000
Reaction score
47,231
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist
Cuomo has been accused of using his political power against women. That's what my question is about.

STILL no answer?
Start a thread about Cuomo, if you want answers about Coumo. This thread is about Matt Gaetz sex trafficking young girls, but I can understand your need to refuse facing that fact.
 

bluesmoke

DP Veteran
Joined
Jun 18, 2016
Messages
14,313
Reaction score
4,336
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
There is no equivalence of any kind, moral or on any scale, between sex trafficking (crossing state lines to have sex) of an underage girl compared to the sexual advances of one man towards female adults where no sex occurred. No one is defending Cuomo. He is being dropped like a hot iron. Nobody is saying because of how Cuomo is being treated, we should also so treat Gaetz. Nobody is saying because what Gaetz is accused of is so much worse than what Cuomo is accused of, we shouldn't be so tough on Cuomo. There is little comparison. None of any significance. Another Mycroft debate fail.
 

US&THEM

Well-known member
Joined
Sep 30, 2019
Messages
7,212
Reaction score
1,691
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Independent
If what they are saying about Gaetz is accurate.- he should be gone.
Gaetz is yet another shining example for the lack of caring about character when it comes to Trump loving and allowing people like Gaetz, Flynn or Powell in his most inner circle. Gaetz should shut up because he has only hurt himself more and more with each dumb tv interview and public statements.
 
Top Bottom