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Now we are getting to the long-awaited fundamental debate. Henrik Svensmark, Nir Shaviv and others have identified the mechanism by which solar interaction with galactic cosmic rays (GCR) influences Earth's climate. Their research strikes at the core of AGW orthodoxy, and will surely provoke a vigorous debate. We may be witnessing a paradigm-shifting moment as described in Thomas Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.
New paper: The missing link between cosmic rays, clouds, and climate change on Earth
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The paper is here http://www.nature.com/ncomms
I just saw something very recently that showed the sun has been entering a weaker phase.
Weaker sun, more cosmic ray penetration to earth, more cosmic ray influence on cloud formation, cooler climate.
Since solar strength is and has always been cyclical (over short & long periods) and historically correlate to temperature fluctuation better than CO2, it does indicate that we're likely entering a period of cooling.
In "The Neglected Sun" Shaviv noted that between 2001 to 2007 the IPCC models halved the amount of impact from the sun ... they really don't consider amplification.
I'm afraid the IPCC is unshakably committed to CO2 and because of that, a few here on DP are too ... the WUWT link will only reinforce their determination to remain flat-earthers.
For those deniers I link to the actual paper https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02082-2
I just saw something very recently that showed the sun has been entering a weaker phase.
Weaker sun, more cosmic ray penetration to earth, more cosmic ray influence on cloud formation, cooler climate.
Since solar strength is and has always been cyclical (over short & long periods) and historically correlate to temperature fluctuation better than CO2, it does indicate that we're likely entering a period of cooling.
In "The Neglected Sun" Shaviv noted that between 2001 to 2007 the IPCC models halved the amount of impact from the sun ... they really don't consider amplification.
I'm afraid the IPCC is unshakably committed to CO2 and because of that, a few here on DP are too ... the WUWT link will only reinforce their determination to remain flat-earthers.
For those deniers I link to the actual paper https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02082-2
I just saw something very recently that showed the sun has been entering a weaker phase.
Weaker sun, more cosmic ray penetration to earth, more cosmic ray influence on cloud formation, cooler climate.
Since solar strength is and has always been cyclical (over short & long periods) and historically correlate to temperature fluctuation better than CO2, it does indicate that we're likely entering a period of cooling.
In "The Neglected Sun" Shaviv noted that between 2001 to 2007 the IPCC models halved the amount of impact from the sun ... they really don't consider amplification.
I'm afraid the IPCC is unshakably committed to CO2 and because of that, a few here on DP are too ... the WUWT link will only reinforce their determination to remain flat-earthers.
For those deniers I link to the actual paper https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02082-2
"It does indicate that we're likely entering a period of cooling." Good. That should definitively determine whether the scientific organizations of the world are right or wrong about global warming. If the Earth cools off in the next few years, then the scientists will revise their theory. If it continues to warm, then the theory will once again be proven.
My prediction: The Earth will continue to warm, just as it has for decades now, and the political blogs will continue to insist that AGW is a hoax. I could be wrong, of course, and we'll know in the next few years.
Yup. Svensmark was predicting the imminent cooling of the Earth nearly a decade ago. It hasn't happened; instead the earth has continued to warm rapidly since then. He's already been proven wrong, but still the AGW deniers desperately cling to his discredited hypothesis.
Svensmark: “global warming stopped and a cooling is beginning” – “enjoy global warming while it lasts”
“In fact global warming has stopped and a cooling is beginning. No climate model has predicted a cooling of the Earth – quite the contrary. And this means that the projections of future climate are unreliable,” writes Henrik Svensmark [in 2009].
Thanks. There is also a direct link to the paper at the bottom of the OP.
"It does indicate that we're likely entering a period of cooling." Good. That should definitively determine whether the scientific organizations of the world are right or wrong about global warming. If the Earth cools off in the next few years, then the scientists will revise their theory. If it continues to warm, then the theory will once again be proven.
My prediction: The Earth will continue to warm, just as it has for decades now, and the political blogs will continue to insist that AGW is a hoax. I could be wrong, of course, and we'll know in the next few years.
That link in the OP doesn't go right to the paper ... once in NATURE I did a site-search on "Increased ionization" to get the paper.
I doubt many contemporary deniers are going to even take the link in the OP let alone do a search once they get there.
Fair enough. I clicked on "climate science" once I was at Nature.
I just saw something very recently that showed the sun has been entering a weaker phase.
Weaker sun, more cosmic ray penetration to earth, more cosmic ray influence on cloud formation, cooler climate.
Since solar strength is and has always been cyclical (over short & long periods) and historically correlate to temperature fluctuation better than CO2, it does indicate that we're likely entering a period of cooling.
In "The Neglected Sun" Shaviv noted that between 2001 to 2007 the IPCC models halved the amount of impact from the sun ... they really don't consider amplification.
I'm afraid the IPCC is unshakably committed to CO2 and because of that, a few here on DP are too ... the WUWT link will only reinforce their determination to remain flat-earthers.
For those deniers I link to the actual paper https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-017-02082-2
There was warming pause starting around 2000 and rather than revising their theory to fit the observations the scientists in question revised the data to fit their models.
Swear to God. They did that.
From Gavin Schmidt, the head of GISS at NASA:
From Gavin Schmidt, the head of GISS at NASA:
Look how all the old denier predictions turned out:
(Spoiler: not well)
http://amp.theguardian.com/environm...redictions-stack-up?__twitter_impression=true
From Gavin Schmidt, the head of GISS at NASA:
Yup. Svensmark was predicting the imminent cooling of the Earth nearly a decade ago. It hasn't happened; instead the earth has continued to warm rapidly since then. He's already been proven wrong, but still the AGW deniers desperately cling to his discredited hypothesis.
Svensmark: “global warming stopped and a cooling is beginning” – “enjoy global warming while it lasts”
“In fact global warming has stopped and a cooling is beginning. No climate model has predicted a cooling of the Earth – quite the contrary. And this means that the projections of future climate are unreliable,” writes Henrik Svensmark [in 2009].
You mean to say my prediction already came true? Hey, I'm a prophet!
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