Suspect in school shooting charged in father’s death [title changed]

http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/480629.html said:

HILLSBOROUGH — A teenager questioned in a shooting at Orange High School today has confessed to killing his father, authorities said.

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Orange High School is my school. I was there and I was in the Cafeteria when this occured.

As the story says, about 1 P.M. Eastern Time a grayish mini-van pulls into the student parking lot. From the position where the van stopped, you can clearily see the patio where students like to eat lunch. As soon as exiting the van, he arms himself with a shotgun and a rifle. To start stirring the terror, he throws a couple of fire-crackers, and walks through the smoke. Once through the smoke, he opens fire on the patio with the shotgun (using buck-shot). One female student hit in the shoulder, two others are cut by glass from the windows, all three are fine and will make full recovery. The shooter was taken down by a deputy and teacher moments later.

As from my personal experience, about 1 P.M. Eastern time, a loud thud can be heard from the patio, then a flood of screaming and crying students rush the halls of the school and finally into the Cafeteria. Being dazed and confused, most of us thought it was a fight breaking out. But, that train of thought was disrupted when a teacher ran in screaming "GET DOWN!", not wanting to test the consequences I got down. After a couple of minutes of intense and extreme terror we were told to quickly move to the auditorium (much safer than the windowed Cafeteria) from there we were separated into individual wings and sent to our classes.

I couldn't imagine the terror at Columbine. If this attacker had some what of a brain this could have easily been another Columbine. Our school was not prepared for any-type of assualt with deadly intentions. We have one resource officer, to guard 1,100+ students. I'm still in shock that something of this magnitude would happen to my school.. a small town... in the middle of nowhere.

-- Jeff Arch Enemy Morris

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Wow! I'm glad you're okay. That must have been frightening. It's really hard to understand how a kid could get to a place where they are open firing at their school. It's a crazy world.

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talloulou said:

Wow! I'm glad you're okay. That must have been frightening. It's really hard to understand how a kid could get to a place where they are open firing at their school. It's a crazy world.

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let alone killing a father.

With a slight breeze against, or even crappy luck, the injured list could be multipled. I would have to say, about 60 people populated the small patio.

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Schools are gun free zones in Ohio. My wife can't drop my son off at his private school with her gun in her purse even though she has a valid carry license. criminals know that they are unlikely to face armed individuals if they attack a school. I think trained teachers ought to pack

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TurtleDude said:

Schools are gun free zones in Ohio. My wife can't drop my son off at his private school with her gun in her purse even though she has a valid carry license. criminals know that they are unlikely to face armed individuals if they attack a school. I think trained teachers ought to pack

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That's the same for North Carolina.

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Arch Enemy said:

TurtleDude said:

Schools are gun free zones in Ohio.

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That's the same for North Carolina.

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Available evidence indicates otherwise, now doesn't it?

Schools are "gun free zones" only for people who obey laws. Those who disobey laws, are free to bring guns into schools, as this slimeball just demonstrated.

You have to wonder why they made a law that restricts only the people who wouldn't have shot up the school in the first place, but leaves the criminals free to blaze away all they want? I mean, why waste the ink?

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Little-Acorn said:

Available evidence indicates otherwise, now doesn't it?

Schools are "gun free zones" only for people who obey laws. Those who disobey laws, are free to bring guns into schools, as this slimeball just demonstrated.

You have to wonder why they made a law that restricts only the people who wouldn't have shot up the school in the first place, but leaves the criminals free to blaze away all they want? I mean, why waste the ink?

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gun control laws are not intended to control criminals or stop crime even if their proponents claim they are. They are designed to allow their advocates to deflect charges that these politicians are soft on crime and they are designed to harass law abiding citizens. Disarmed citizens feel unsafe and are more likely to cede their personal freedom to the state for increased "safety".

its like people who think honest citizens ought to register guns even though the supreme court rules 38 year years ago that convicted felons cannot be forced to do so since it would violate their right against self incrimination.

there have been two school shootings that I am aware of where a potential victim was able to stop the criminal due to being familiar or having a gun. In one case, a principal retrieved a weapon from his vehicle and forced the killer to surrender. In another case (oregon or washington state IIRC) a boy knew that the killer's gun was empty and charged the criminal and subdued him

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Check the sites again, updates are coming quicker.

This guy... was one of my friends a couple of years ago. While I didn't really know him outside of French Class, I knew him well enough to say he was TOTALLY sane and had no sign of any negative behaviors. He had a loving family and the discipline of a soldier.
Yes, he joined the military. He Officially has been trained to kill, which is why a lot of people think there was a second, or he was still sane. Why would someone who wanted to hurt people and was trained to do so not be able to?

He was going to be re-deployed shortly.

I just.. I don't know what to do. This situation is effed up beyond repair.

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Arch Enemy said:

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Check the sites again, updates are coming quicker.

This guy... was one of my friends a couple of years ago. While I didn't really know him outside of French Class, I knew him well enough to say he was TOTALLY sane and had no sign of any negative behaviors. He had a loving family and the discipline of a soldier.
Yes, he joined the military. He Officially has been trained to kill, which is why a lot of people think there was a second, or he was still sane. Why would someone who wanted to hurt people and was trained to do so not be able to?

He was going to be re-deployed shortly.

I just.. I don't know what to do. This situation is effed up beyond repair.

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So you're telling me that he went from sane to trying to shoot people! Are you serious? Did he show any signs of being sociopathic? Angry at anyone? There must be something inside him that triggered it or an event in his past. I just can't believe that someone who was once perfectly sane could snap so fast.

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Sir_Alec said:

So you're telling me that he went from sane to trying to shoot people! Are you serious? Did he show any signs of being sociopathic? Angry at anyone? There must be something inside him that triggered it or an event in his past. I just can't believe that someone who was once perfectly sane could snap so fast.

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I cannot either.

This is a shock to even his close close friends. I really cannot imagine my condition if I were on that patio when he started, and then to have to face the fact this once classroom friend was pulling the trigger at me... I would need serious help if that were the case.

He sure as hell wanted to frighten the hell out of people and he did. He dressed in a black cloak, white head band, some sort of full body clothing, and had pyros to make his presence known.

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Wral News said:

Speaking to reporters as he was led from a sheriff's office to the Orange County Jail, Alvaro Rafael Castillo, 19, of Hillsborough, was asked why he went to Orange High School, where investigators believe he fired shots at the school.

Castillo responded: "Columbine. Remember Columbine."

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My god...

"Sacrifice. The world is cruel," he said. "We all have to sacrifice. Somebody had to put him out of his misery. He abused all of us."

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oh it gets better

Torlotta said he believes there was more than one shooter, but investigators have not been able to confirm whether that was the case.

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Superintendent is making school resume sch. even with this panic.

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Arch Enemy said:

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My god...



oh it gets better



Superintendent is making school resume sch. even with this panic.

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wow. What alot to take in. Your nerves must be frazzled! The worst thing about these situations is that we always look for answers that might lead to a better understanding of how something crazy like that can happen and usually those answers never come.

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Arch Enemy said:

Superintendent is making school resume sch. even with this panic.

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That's what pisses me off: the absolute inability of school administration to be flexible in extraordinary circumstances. What would it matter if the school gave everyone a four-day weekend, just as a chance to get themselves together, before they went back to school?

Last year, my school had a bomb threat phoned in; they said there was a bomb in the school that would detonate the next day, unless a ransom was paid. When the threat was noticed, the school was evacuated and everyone was sent home that day; but when the school was searched and no bomb was found, the superintendant resumed school the next day, the day the bomb was supposed to go off. I had 8 students show up out of 26, my first class. WTF was the point of that?

I say don't go, AE, if you don't feel up to it. Screw 'em. And that's coming from a teacher.:damn

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CoffeeSaint said:

That's what pisses me off: the absolute inability of school administration to be flexible in extraordinary circumstances. What would it matter if the school gave everyone a four-day weekend, just as a chance to get themselves together, before they went back to school?

Last year, my school had a bomb threat phoned in; they said there was a bomb in the school that would detonate the next day, unless a ransom was paid. When the threat was noticed, the school was evacuated and everyone was sent home that day; but when the school was searched and no bomb was found, the superintendant resumed school the next day, the day the bomb was supposed to go off. I had 8 students show up out of 26, my first class. WTF was the point of that?

I say don't go, AE, if you don't feel up to it. Screw 'em. And that's coming from a teacher.:damn

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I agree, CoffeeSaint, this is extremely unflexible.

Arch, I hope that your school is at least supplying some onsite counselling to deal with this trauma. Up here, 2 years ago, a student was killed on a senior outing. I was one of 12 couselors brought in to assist with grieving students. It seemed very helpful, as it not only helped keep the general population calmer but we were also used to assist individual students and to calm down potential 'trouble spots'. It showed that the school was doing something.

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talloulou said:

wow. What alot to take in. Your nerves must be frazzled! The worst thing about these situations is that we always look for answers that might lead to a better understanding of how something crazy like that can happen and usually those answers never come.

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Couldn't agree with you more.

Luckily, today was quite normal, though there was the erie feeling during lunch. Everyone in the Cafeteria, at one point or another, stared at the halls outside of the lunch room, as if they were relivingi t.

That's what pisses me off: the absolute inability of school administration to be flexible in extraordinary circumstances. What would it matter if the school gave everyone a four-day weekend, just as a chance to get themselves together, before they went back to school?

Last year, my school had a bomb threat phoned in; they said there was a bomb in the school that would detonate the next day, unless a ransom was paid. When the threat was noticed, the school was evacuated and everyone was sent home that day; but when the school was searched and no bomb was found, the superintendant resumed school the next day, the day the bomb was supposed to go off. I had 8 students show up out of 26, my first class. WTF was the point of that?

I say don't go, AE, if you don't feel up to it. Screw 'em. And that's coming from a teacher.

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Our school is notorious for bomb threats. We used to average a couple a week, but that has since been dropping dramatically. It was more of a move to get out of a test, rather than to scare the bejeezsus out of all.

Thanks, but I went anyways. I am relieved that we had a resource officer who wasn't a coward. Though he might not be as smart as the rest of the world, he still took one for the team.. bit the bullet, and saved lives.

The media keeps on insisting that his sister was in the building, but she wasn't. I do believe she graduated last year, so if you see any of those reports ignore them.. unless I am mistaking.

Our school is used to tragedy. It's becoming more and more obvious that in soemone's 4 years of High school at Orange High, something tragic is going to happen. My freshman year, another friend died. She died from a deadly mixture of her own medicine (getting over pnemounia) and cocaine. She could have been saved with medical help, but her "friends" were too busy worrying about them getting caught with drugs, so they left her on her doorstep.. to die.

I agree, CoffeeSaint, this is extremely unflexible.

Arch, I hope that your school is at least supplying some onsite counselling to deal with this trauma. Up here, 2 years ago, a student was killed on a senior outing. I was one of 12 couselors brought in to assist with grieving students. It seemed very helpful, as it not only helped keep the general population calmer but we were also used to assist individual students and to calm down potential 'trouble spots'. It showed that the school was doing something.

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Onsite consuling was def. supplied. We clear out the media center and call it the "Crisis Center". Basic protocol for OHS.


--AE