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Susan Atkins Saved, Unrepentant Gays and Fornicators Not

And you previously were trying to tell me you weren't a liberal. LOL. First, pro abortion, now pro-gay sex, plus anti-God.

"Personal, subjective moral autonomy is the goal of liberalism—to be free from any moral law imposed by the Creator." - author unknown
Author might be unknown but is guaranteed to be either an aristocrat or one of the ruling elite. Definitely a deist.
Personal subjective moral autonomy sounds good to this liberal. Free from moral law imposed by the Creator? Yeah, works for me. The fewer laws imposed on me the more satisfied my life is.
 
I'd say that's also due to our secular laws protecting us. After all, executing gays is no big deal in theocratic countries like Afghanistan.
They are jealous. I think they would like to throw some gays off the roof. And if they were in power, they would
 
Disempowered fundies makes the lives of everyone better.
 
They are jealous. I think they would like to throw some gays off the roof. And if they were in power, they would
NIFB just says the quiet part out loud.
 
If gays are unsaved that would mean Jesus would be in Hell too since he was gay.
Yeah yeah. Ever hear of Nikos Kazantzakis? Wrote Zorba the Greek. Also The Last Temptation Of Christ. I accept his take over yours.
 
Sodom and Gomorrah wasn't just about abusing guests. It was also about sexual immorality and perversion.

Jude 7 - "In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire."
Sodom. That's where the righteous man Lot offered up his virgin daughters to be gang raped by a mob, right?
 
If an Old Testament ban on homosexual behavior exists, it is a ceremonial law like eating pork.
Yeah but none of those other Mosaic laws in Leviticus apply anymore. Just that one about homosexuals. All the rest are, uh, inoperative.
 
They are jealous. I think they would like to throw some gays off the roof. And if they were in power, they would
I have little doubt at lest some would.
 
Sodom. That's where the righteous man Lot offered up his virgin daughters to be gang raped by a mob, right?
Very good, Grand Mal! You think that sin suddenly justifies homosexual sin?
 
I thought we were talking about God smiting people, not people smiting people.

Goalposts moved, you are dismissed with scorn.

You guys always talk about the so-called "evil" God who dispenses justice in the OT, but then the libs give those who butcher the innocent unborn a free pass.

You didn't learn a thing, did you?
 
You guys always talk about the so-called "evil" God who dispenses justice in the OT, but give those who butcher the innocent unborn a pass.

You didn't learn a thing, did you?
Funny how some Gove God a free pass for evil but complain about man's "evil." Quite the double standard.
 
You guys always talk about the so-called "evil" God who dispenses justice in the OT, but then the libs give those who butcher the innocent unborn a free pass.

You didn't learn a thing, did you?
It sounds like god is no better than a man
 
Funny how some Gove God a free pass for evil but complain about man's "evil." Quite the double standard.
Of course you're assuming you're the one with the correct understanding of good and evil.
 
Of course you're assuming you're the one with the correct understanding of good and evil.
It's a simple concept. Some simply do not want to apply the same standard to God.
 
It's a simple concept. Some simply do not want to apply the same standard to God.
We know what evil is. It's what hurts or kills us in THIS life. At this time. Like what's happening in Ukraine to people. That's evil. Denying that or ignoring that is evil.
 
We know what evil is. It's what hurts or kills us in THIS life. At this time. Like what's happening in Ukraine to people. That's evil. Denying that or ignoring that is evil.
But when it's God killing us, that's somehow ok and not evil in the minds of some believers. It's a complete double standard.
 
Of course you're assuming you're the one with the correct understanding of good and evil.
Talk about sins, it was understanding good and evil that got people tossed out of Eden.
 
What do the Scriptures say about unrepentant, immoral sexual sins?

First, Manson follower and murderer Susan Atkins in heaven?


Huffington Post, LOS ANGELES (Sept. 24, 2009) - Susan Atkins, a follower of cult leader Charles Manson whose remorseless witness stand confession to killing pregnant actress Sharon Tate in 1969 shocked the world, has died. She was 61 and had been suffering from brain cancer.

The matronly, gray-haired Atkins who appeared before a parole board in 2000 cut a far different figure than that of the cocky young defendant some 30 years earlier.

"I don't have to just make amends to the victims and families," she said softly. "I have to make amends to society. I sinned against God and everything this country stands for." She said she had found redemption in Christianity. The last words she spoke in public at the September hearing were to say in unison with her husband: "My God is an amazing God."

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna33016208

Unrepentant Gays and fornicators unsaved? What do the scriptures say?

Luke 13:3 (NIV) Jesus speaking – “I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” Where's the repentance from the gay community?

Revelation 21:8 - “But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolators and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”

Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."

So, it’s not just unrepentant, sexually active gays who will be lost, but unrepentant fornicators, adulterers, and others also. Susan Atkins evidently wised up, sexually active gays and fornicators need to also, or they shall indeed perish. That’s what the scriptures teach. An inconvenient truth for many.
Either you have a bad take on God, or your god is some kinda sicko.
 
Very good, Grand Mal! You think that sin suddenly justifies homosexual sin?
I think your God had a very loose definition of righteousness.
Actually, not God but whichever man wrote that part of Genesis. He had a really loose definition of righteousness if Lot represented it to him.
 
We know what evil is. It's what hurts or kills us in THIS life. At this time. Like what's happening in Ukraine to people. That's evil. Denying that or ignoring that is evil.
Knowing what evil is got us evicted from Eden. It wasn't about snakes and apples, that's an allegory to illustrate how learning to call some things 'good' and other things 'evil' lost us the state of innocence, lost us Eden.
 
Yeah yeah. Ever hear of Nikos Kazantzakis? Wrote Zorba the Greek. Also The Last Temptation Of Christ. I accept his take over yours.

In his novel he portrays Jesus as having an incestuous relationship with Mary, is that what you like? o_O

I would want proof, does Jesus carry his membership card to the club?

Proof is in the bible: he never got married, no kids, no GF, and all of his close bros were guys. Also he had a half naked youth following him in aorund during the night of his arrest.
 
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