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Surprise, Surprise (in voce Gomer Pyle).....the new AL Senator's (R, of course) a complete idiot.

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Here are some of his "gems:"
“You know, our government wasn’t set up for one group to have all three of branches of government. It wasn’t set up that way, our three branches, the House, the Senate and executive,” the senator-elect said, apparently unaware that the House and Senate form one legislative branch and omitting the judicial branch altogether.
Additionally, he incorrectly asserted that Al Gore was president-elect for 30 days in 2000.
“My dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of socialism,” he told the Daily News (it was fascism, not socialism).
[Well, "national socialism," i.e., Nazism or German fascism]
And did he ever shit himself on what the Voting Rights Act was about:
“You know, the thing about the Voting Rights Act is…it’s…you know…there’s a lot of different things you can look at it as,” he stuttered when asked if he supports extending the law. “Who’s it going to help? What direction do we need to go with it? I think it’s important that everything we do we keep secure. We keep an eye on it. It’s run by our government.”
Not.......a......clue.
 
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Here are some of his "gems:"



[Well, "national socialism," i.e., Nazism or German fascism]
And did he ever shit himself on what the Voting Rights Act was about:

Not.......a......clue.
This is where Hitler got his start in his run up to power, (NSDAP; National Socialist German Workers’ Party, or Nazi Party). While he may not have been a true socialist he used the party to achieve his goals before breaking away and making the Nazi party his own. This is what we may be seeing out of some of the members and supporters of the democrat party today. They are far from the democrats of my parents and grandparents days. The extreme leftward lean and the support of many communist policy positions is troubling. Hitler did it in the 1030's, some in the democrat party are doing it today.
 
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...-full-grasp-on-basics-of-u-s-govt-and-history

Here are some of his "gems:"



[Well, "national socialism," i.e., Nazism or German fascism]
And did he ever shit himself on what the Voting Rights Act was about:

Not.......a......clue.

It would be almost impossible for him to catch up with saying all the extra stupid things Pelosi has said:

"Every month we do not have a recovery package, 500 million Americans lose their jobs."
 
This is where Hitler got his start in his run up to power, (NSDAP; National Socialist German Workers’ Party, or Nazi Party). While he may not have been a true socialist he used the party to achieve his goals before breaking away and making the Nazi party his own. This is what we may be seeing out of some of the members and supporters of the democrat party today. They are far from the democrats of my parents and grandparents days. The extreme leftward lean and the support of many communist policy positions is troubling. Hitler did it in the 1030's, some in the democrat party are doing it today.
You started out pretty well there but again demonstrate how out of the "norm" you are with that comment in bold above. If your progenitors were the Dems of the postwar era they would have been pro-union at the least. The only reason the Dems seem extreme to you is that you're clearly on the extreme right fringe. Of course, this is the standard projection ploy of rightwing extremists.
 
It would be almost impossible for him to catch up with saying all the extra stupid things Pelosi has said:

"Every month we do not have a recovery package, 500 million Americans lose their jobs."

Once again, joko, you provide hilarity--at your own expense, of course. That link took you to Blither 11+ and beyond.
 
So things are back to normal in Mississippi after their moment of grace with Doug Jones.
 
This is where Hitler got his start in his run up to power, (NSDAP; National Socialist German Workers’ Party, or Nazi Party). While he may not have been a true socialist he used the party to achieve his goals before breaking away and making the Nazi party his own. This is what we may be seeing out of some of the members and supporters of the democrat party today. They are far from the democrats of my parents and grandparents days. The extreme leftward lean and the support of many communist policy positions is troubling. Hitler did it in the 1030's, some in the democrat party are doing it today.
Yeah, Hitler was a big promoter of communists and communism in the 1930s. WTF are you talking about? Hitler hated communists almost as much as he hated Jews.

Hitler's message was a populist one:
Your troubles are cause by those "others." Elect me and I will Make Germany Great Again!

Sound familiar?
 
Yeah, Hitler was a big promoter of communists and communism in the 1930s. WTF are you talking about? Hitler hated communists almost as much as he hated Jews.

Hitler's message was a populist one:
Your troubles are cause by those "others." Elect me and I will Make Germany Great Again!

Sound familiar?
It appears that a lot of people are as ignorant as the new senator from Alabama.
 
This is where Hitler got his start in his run up to power, (NSDAP; National Socialist German Workers’ Party, or Nazi Party). While he may not have been a true socialist he used the party to achieve his goals before breaking away and making the Nazi party his own. This is what we may be seeing out of some of the members and supporters of the democrat party today. They are far from the democrats of my parents and grandparents days. The extreme leftward lean and the support of many communist policy positions is troubling. Hitler did it in the 1030's, some in the democrat party are doing it today.

Try and get this:
Hitler was not a socialist, Hitler was not on the Left, not in any way, shape or form.

The basis of the conflation of nazism and socialism is the term "National Socialism," a self description of the Nazis.
"National Socialism" includes the word "socialism", but it is just a word.
Hitler and the Nazis outlawed socialism, and executed socialists and communists en masse, even before they started rounding up Jews. In 1933, the Dachau concentration camp held socialists and leftists
exclusively. The Nazis arrested more than 11,000 Germans for "illegal socialist activity" in 1936.

In the 1930s and even beyond, nazism, in sharp contrast to socialism, was strongly supported by leading capitalists and right wingers in the US. Henry Ford, the leading industrialist and auto maker, was a great admirer of the nazis.
When Henry Ford announced that he might run for president in 1923, the little-known Hitler told the Chicago Tribune
that he would like to send shock troops to Chicago to assist in the campaign.
Later in 1938, the year of Kristallnacht, Ford was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle, the highest civilian award given
by the nazis. Ford accepted it with pride, and Ford's company collaborated with the nazis as late as August 1942.
General Motors, Standard Oil, ITT, and Chase National Bank (later Chase Manhattan Bank) among others also had major financial investments and collaborations with Nazi Germany.

J. Edgar Hoover, the first director of the FBI (and virulently anti-communist) was a great admirer of the nazis and was a pen pal of Heinrich Himmler (Reichsfuhrer of the Nazi SS, head of the Gestapo, and second most powerful leader of the Nazi party). Hoover sent Himmler a personal invitation to attend the 1937 World Police Conference in Montreal, and in 1938 welcomed one of Himmler's top aides to the U.S. In June 1939, when the Nazi SS was conducting savage attacks against Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals throughout Germany, Hoover personally autographed a photo of himself and sent it in response to a request, to KRIPO, the Nazi criminal police agency. He continued communication with Nazi police until December 4, 1941 (three days before Pearl Harbor).

Nazism is a right wing ideology. It is violently racist, anti-socialist, and it targets the political left for extermination.
This is underscored by Albert Einstein's embrace of socialism throughout his life -- and in particular in his 1949 essay,
Why Socialism? -- along with the fact that Einstein's name was included on a nazi death list with a bounty of $50,000 offered for his assassination.
If nazism really is socialism, why would Einstein have identified himself as a socialist a scant four years after WWII?
 
Furthermore, Himmler, well before the Wannsee Conference, and after the "Night of the Long Knives", which eventuated the disposal of any and all left-sympathizing party members, including Ernst Roehm, about 1938, enunciated to a mass meeting of the SchutzStaffel (S.S.): "We are of the right and of order. We shall sweep away Jews, Bolsheviks, and liberal democracies as one sweeps away flies."

When the Enabling Act of 1933, which effectively made Hitler dictator of Germany, was voted on in the German parliament the only party to vote against it was the Social Democrats.

Hitler had most of the Strasserites, the wing of the Nazi party that actually had some socialist leanings, killed off in the Knight of the Long Knives in 1934.
 
Furthermore, Himmler, well before the Wannsee Conference, and after the "Night of the Long Knives", which eventuated the disposal of any and all left-sympathizing party members, including Ernst Roehm, about 1938, enunciated to a mass meeting of the SchutzStaffel (S.S.): "We are of the right and of order. We shall sweep away Jews, Bolsheviks, and liberal democracies as one sweeps away flies."

When the Enabling Act of 1933, which effectively made Hitler dictator of Germany, was voted on in the German parliament the only party to vote against it was the Social Democrats.

Hitler had most of the Strasserites, the wing of the Nazi party that actually had some socialist leanings, killed off in the Knight of the Long Knives in 1934.
Ahhh, Herr Himmler, another one that eventually offed himself. Oh the dreams of psychotic tyrants.
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“My dad fought 76 years ago in Europe to free Europe of socialism,” he told the Daily News (it was fascism, not socialism).

This reveals more ignorance than people realize. The Marshal Plan was instrumental to introducing and creating social welfare states in Western Europe. It was the only way to instill confidence in capitalism and democracy among Europeans, who had forsaken both during the Interwar years.

But, per the norm for today's American conservative, they use the ignorant right-wing propaganda of the day and improperly apply it to the past. In the meantime, their GOP hands out bail-outs to mismanaged banks and corporations, while their President hands out free welfare and unemployment checks. That's a crap load of socialism for a people who like to denigrate Democrat over socialism.
 
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This is where Hitler got his start in his run up to power, (NSDAP; National Socialist German Workers’ Party, or Nazi Party). While he may not have been a true socialist he used the party to achieve his goals before breaking away and making the Nazi party his own. This is what we may be seeing out of some of the members and supporters of the democrat party today. They are far from the democrats of my parents and grandparents days. The extreme leftward lean and the support of many communist policy positions is troubling. Hitler did it in the 1030's, some in the democrat party are doing it today.
You really should find a tenth grader and ask him the basics before you post about Germany's 1930s politics. Or you can defy the norm for this site and just learn right here:

- The German Left was composed largely of the Communist Party and the Social Democratic Party. They did not like each other, but collaborated at times for political purposes. In the center sat the Catholic Center Party, which leaned either left or right, depending on the circumstance (but always democratic), and supplied most of Germany's Chancellors. Obviously, of the three Parties, the Communists were anti-democratic and anti-capitalist, but their small numbers gave them very little power in government. So, they needed to collaborate in order to matter. As a loose coalition, the Left maintained democratic control of the Weimar Republic.

- The German Right was composed largely of the Bavarian People's Party, the German People's Party, the German National People's Party, and the National Socialist German Worker's Party (NAZI). However, constant bickering over how much of democracy they would accept and issues of industry-versus-workers routinely kept them from forming political coalitions. Where they did find common ground was their belief in two defining false myths: (1) Germany was united in their nationalist zeal for war in 1914, and (2) the politicians eventually stabbed the military in the back and forced Germany into the Treaty of Versailles. Along with being locked down economically, conservative Germans also hated the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922, which fixed the ratio of battleship construction among the U.S., Britain, Japan, Italy, and France. No other country was allowed to build any, including Germany. And since the U.S. and the British set up a more globalist system in which democracy was necessary, German conservatives quickly became anti-democratic. In other words, those who embraced the democracy of the Weimar Republic, became traitors to the Fatherland. Conservatives, largely as monarchists, believed that only a more autocratic system (monarchists) would restore Germany to unified greatness (the first myth) so that those who betrayed Germany (the second myth) could be stripped of power.

** The problem was that the monarchist Hindenburg, President of the Weimar Republic from 1925 to 1934, could not unify the various Parties of the Right. For a few years, the conservatives chipped away at democracy and exploited weaknesses in the constitution. They stacked local courts, routinely obstructed liberalism, raged against globalism, and most looked away as Hitler's gangs strong-armed political rivals on the Left. (Sound familiar?) But it was not until the NAZI Party grew in popularity, especially among the Protestant rural population (which hated the liberal cities), that Hindenburg finally recognized that he could no longer rebuke Hitler's fanaticism and political calls to be named Chancellor. He sought to use Hitler's far-right NAZI Party to finally unite the Right. Well, Hitler did unite the Right because a decades-worth of Antisemitism and other propaganda provided a common ignorant language. Hitler did push the country into autocracy with the backing of the conservatives, not because they wanted repressive dictatorship, but because they embraced a culture of irrationality, refused compromise, had no patience for democracy, detested the global order, and wanted shortcuts back to the 1914 myth before democratic politicians, the left, and "Jews" ruined everything. It wasn't long before the rest of the conservative Parties found themselves sidelined and marginalized to Hitler's Third Reich.

Copy and paste this to a word document for reference. Your zeal to follow along like a lemming to ignorant partisan politics leaves you wanting. How about actually trying to positively contribute to the site instead of constantly spraying misinformation and lies.
 
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It would be almost impossible for him to catch up with saying all the extra stupid things Pelosi has said:

"Every month we do not have a recovery package, 500 million Americans lose their jobs."


SDDN

Super Deflection Duly Noted!

Do you think pointing out a Speaker Nancy Pelosi misspeak makes that new Senator from Alabama sound smart?

Why did you deflect?
 
SDDN

Super Deflection Duly Noted!

Do you think pointing out a Speaker Nancy Pelosi misspeak makes that new Senator from Alabama sound smart?

Why did you deflect?
It’s amazing how liberals are never dumb, they only misspeak...
 
SDDN

Super Deflection Duly Noted!

Do you think pointing out a Speaker Nancy Pelosi misspeak makes that new Senator from Alabama sound smart?

Why did you deflect?

Unless you can link to a rant and ridicule against Nancy Pelosi for saying stupid things we know you don't give a damn about this, just typical Democrat fake outrage and sneering.
 
SDDN

Super Deflection Duly Noted!

Do you think pointing out a Speaker Nancy Pelosi misspeak makes that new Senator from Alabama sound smart?

Why did you deflect?

I have far more reason to care about Nancy Pelosi being an idiot than a Senator from Alabama.
 
This is where Hitler got his start in his run up to power, (NSDAP; National Socialist German Workers’ Party, or Nazi Party). While he may not have been a true socialist he used the party to achieve his goals before breaking away and making the Nazi party his own. This is what we may be seeing out of some of the members and supporters of the democrat party today. They are far from the democrats of my parents and grandparents days. The extreme leftward lean and the support of many communist policy positions is troubling. Hitler did it in the 1030's, some in the democrat party are doing it today.

Hitler unleashed his fanatical thugs to attack and murder anyone seen as being part of “the left“. The fact that the American conservative movement is laughably historically ignorant doesn’t change the facts.
 
It’s amazing how liberals are never dumb, they only misspeak...
What's also amazing is the contortions conservatives are capable of when one of their tribe comes under criticism. This thread for example- the first conservative chimes in about Hitler (and sideways acknowledges that it doesn't really apply), the second deflects to a Democrat and the third, you, wants to comment on liberals generally. On page one of the thread.
 
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