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Surprise—The Majority of SNAP Recipients Live in the 'Burbs!'

Captain Adverse

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Looks like my comments in other threads about "welfare programs" being utilized by the "working poor" has more validation here:

When talking about government nutrition assistance, news stories are often illustrated with images of single mothers of color or older retirees in large urban housing developments. Seldom do the suburbs—the land of cul-de-sacs, strip malls, and minivans—come into play in regards to SNAP.

But increasingly, the ’burbs are becoming the defining image of food stamps. The number of Americans living in suburbs who receive SNAP doubled between 2007 and 2011, and the majority recipients nationwide—55 percent—now live there, according to an analysis of American Community Survey data by the Brookings Institution...

In the wake of the housing bust and the subsequent Great Recession—economic calamities that caused real wages to fall across the board by 2.8 percent as global food prices continue to rise—almost 48 million Americans have received the nutrition benefit. As a result, the value of SNAP benefits have decreased by seven percent during that time, according to a recent report by the USDA.
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Surprise

People who work at low-wage and low-middle-wage positions use Food Stamps and Medicaid (along with personal deficit spending via credit cards) to make ends meet. It not just "welfare mommas" folks, our economy is suffering. Something to consider when members discuss eliminating welfare programs accross the board.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Looks like my comments in other threads about "welfare programs" being utilized by the "working poor" has more validation here:



Surprise

People who work at low-wage and low-middle-wage positions use Food Stamps and Medicaid (along with personal deficit spending via credit cards) to make ends meet. It not just "welfare mommas" folks, our economy is suffering. Something to consider when members discuss eliminating welfare programs accross the board.
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I think almost all of those people would be better off if that money was used to fix our infrastructure and focus on more community and economic developing projects rather then handing out lump sums to different people.
 
What? You dare to question a gov't program aimed at buying votes using other people's money? SNAP (and now PPACA) is a key link in the liberal dream of establishing the national "living wage" via income redistribution. No longer will earning a low wage mean living a substandard existance in this land of plenty. From each according to their ability (to pay taxes), to each according to their need (for free stuff).
 
Aren't all mothers who get welfare, by definition, "welfare mommas" ?
 
ReformCollege said:
I think almost all of those people would be better off if that money was used to fix our infrastructure and focus on more community and economic developing projects rather then handing out lump sums to different people.
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Which method of gov't spending is more likely to produce votes for liberals? ;)
 
How is it surprising that after creating a handout system and then making it easy to get on and stay on, that in a period of economic decline with zero effort at reestablishing a jobs market, a majority of people (across the board) would take advantage of it? You certainly cant be surprised that there are an ever increasing number of social dependents in this country?
 
ReformCollege said:
I think almost all of those people would be better off if that money was used to fix our infrastructure and focus on more community and economic developing projects rather then handing out lump sums to different people.
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Well, I think short-term government work programs would be helpful...temporarily. However, to address the real needs of Americans who work and want to earn a living doing so, we'd be better off figuring out how to morph our "service economy" back into a "multi-purpose" economy. That means major investment in industry, scientific development, and other resource development growth. That's what brings new jobs into play.
 
hah no, how else can you recoup even a tiny amount of the taxes you pay?
Sure why not take snap and any other government benefit you can get your hands on?
Don't you silly "I hate welfare and all those who collect it" folks realize that the trend towards socialism is accelerating?
c'mon do the arithmetic, can you even come close to recouping the taxes you pay in your lifetime?
 
Captain Adverse said:
Well, I think short-term government work programs would be helpful...temporarily. However, to address the real needs of Americans who work and want to earn a living doing so, we'd be better off figuring out how to morph our "service economy" back into a "multi-purpose" economy. That means major investment in industry, scientific development, and other resource development growth. That's what brings new jobs into play.
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Every day billions of dollars in goods arrive at our nations ports full of products that used to be made here. The easiest thing the government could do would be to remove the burden of regulatory incrementalism that has shackled our nations manufacturing base, and sent those jobs to other countries.

The business community would make the investment, and the red tape and delays associated with government projects would be avoided.
 
ocean515 said:
Every day billions of dollars in goods arrive at our nations ports full of products that used to be made here. The easiest thing the government could do would be to remove the burden of regulatory incrementalism that has shackled our nations manufacturing base, and sent those jobs to other countries.

The business community would make the investment, and the red tape and delays associated with government projects would be avoided.
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That is one possible method...and you are preaching to the choir as long as we are not talking about a return to the bad-old sweat shop in unsafe polluting factories days. :)
 
And how do we transition back to a manufacturing economy? Robots cost less than decent paid labor, and they don't require health insurance or vacation time.

Fact is, no one in this country is going to do anything, unless its hugely profitable.
 
Is it really any surprise? When there's a gravy train, virtually everyone wants to ride, with the exception of those who vehemently value their independence.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Looks like my comments in other threads about "welfare programs" being utilized by the "working poor" has more validation here:



Surprise

People who work at low-wage and low-middle-wage positions use Food Stamps and Medicaid (along with personal deficit spending via credit cards) to make ends meet. It not just "welfare mommas" folks, our economy is suffering. Something to consider when members discuss eliminating welfare programs accross the board.
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Wait....uh I thought we were on the rebound, the recession was over and unemployment was plummeting.
 
American said:
Wait....uh I thought we were on the rebound, the recession was over and unemployment was plummeting.
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Hmm, well here's another story along those lines...

Why Incomes Could Fall For the Next 30 Years | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance

Economists Richard Burkhauser of Cornell University and Jeff Larrimore, a staffer on the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation, warn that demographic factors -- which have largely aided the U.S. economy in the past -- could end up pushing incomes down for the next 30 years or more. If other factors don’t force incomes up, we may be at the beginning of the longest period of economic decline in American history.

It’s well understood that incomes went up in the 1980s and 1990s but stagnated from 2000 to 2007. The median income fell sharply during the 2007-2009 recession and has yet to recover.
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A 30 - 50 year recession??? WOW! Talks about improved education and the need for some "miracle thing" in our economy that builds new jobs. LOL.

The only thing we need is for corporations and investment banks which hold all that capital to re-invest in our own economic growth.
 
Captain Adverse said:
Hmm, well here's another story along those lines...

Why Incomes Could Fall For the Next 30 Years | Daily Ticker - Yahoo! Finance



A 30 - 50 year recession??? WOW! Talks about improved education and the need for some "miracle thing" in our economy that builds new jobs. LOL.

The only thing we need is for corporations and investment banks which hold all that capital to re-invest in our own economic growth.
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Don't worry, Obamacare will fix everything. :roll:
 
lizzie said:
Is it really any surprise? When there's a gravy train, virtually everyone wants to ride, with the exception of those who vehemently value their independence.
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Even many of those will hop aboard but wisely choose to bank (or invest) the savings attained. ;)
 
ocean515 said:
Every day billions of dollars in goods arrive at our nations ports full of products that used to be made here. The easiest thing the government could do would be to remove the burden of regulatory incrementalism that has shackled our nations manufacturing base, and sent those jobs to other countries.

The business community would make the investment, and the red tape and delays associated with government projects would be avoided.
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Anyone with the tiniest amount of macro understanding knows that it has been wages that primarily causes companies to relocate. Any argument about "regulation" is an environmental Luddite argument.
 
Captain Adverse said:
That is one possible method...and you are preaching to the choir as long as we are not talking about a return to the bad-old sweat shop in unsafe polluting factories days. :)
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Ah, an incremental regressionist!
 
Captain Adverse said:
Looks like my comments in other threads about "welfare programs" being utilized by the "working poor" has more validation here:



Surprise

People who work at low-wage and low-middle-wage positions use Food Stamps and Medicaid (along with personal deficit spending via credit cards) to make ends meet. It not just "welfare mommas" folks, our economy is suffering. Something to consider when members discuss eliminating welfare programs accross the board.
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Captain Obvious discovers the middle class is depending on SNAP benefits.

Wow.
 
Not dependent just getting in on the fraud and abuse, hey everyone else is doing it
by definition a 'middle class person' isn't eligible for SNAP
so they'd have to defraud the government to collect benefits?
 
Gimmesometruth said:
Anyone with the tiniest amount of macro understanding knows that it has been wages that primarily causes companies to relocate. Any argument about "regulation" is an environmental Luddite argument.
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As invalid as your opinion is, I appreciate you offering it.
 
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