Personally I do not think there is anything to study. It is quite clear their appointments were illegal or unconstitutional. But what about all the rulings since their appointments, especially the ones in where they were the deciding votes?
Then you are defending stalemate in DC as we know it; defending the games that are being played by obstructionists.Which is definitely a tactic that is reasonable for someone to criticize. But it doesn't excuse acting unconstitutionally.
The Senate was acting as intended by the Founders. Checks against use of power like this are built into our system of government.
You'll appreciate this more when in a couple of years a Republican is elected President.
the founders didn't want to have the Senate avoid voting and pretend to be in session........
Advise and consent does not mean they can put off Presidential appointments they know will pass. That is silly.
Sababa, the point is that appointments made by Pres Obama during the so called "recess" he claimed the senate was in would NOT have passed.
Then you are defending stalemate in DC as we know it;
I am not sure that is true. But even if it was, the Senate has held up tons of the President's appointments. That is not the intent of Advise and Consent.
You know, Pero, I am beginning to think that there must be a small group of people in DC whose only job is to look at the laws we currently live under, and then decide to challenge those - one at a time - that restrict what they want to do! It makes me wonder how we ever managed to become the world leader we are - with all those "outdated" laws in effect. It makes me think it's a damn miracle we survived at all as a country for hundreds of years! I'm aware that our Constitution and Bill of Rights is a thorn in the side of those who want to do what they feel like doing, but that's the way it is. I wonder how many illegal aliens are crossing the border eager to get into Zimbabwe or North Korea! :rantoff:
Greetings, Pero. :2wave:
Interesting question, pero. There probably isn't anything that can be done at this point, is there?
The replacement for jay carney said they are studying it. What I want to know is what this ruling does to all the FLRB made while these illegal members were apart of it. You hear anything?
FLASHBACK: Bush Recess Appointed 7 of 9 NLRB Members
Source is probably crap, but it documents whom Bush appointed and how the standard procedure was circumvented in most of his 7/9 recess appointments.
During Bush's appointees, did congress use a horse and carriage or a train?
You know, Pero, I am beginning to think that there must be a small group of people in DC whose only job is to look at the laws we currently live under, and then decide to challenge those - one at a time - that restrict what they want to do! It makes me wonder how we ever managed to become the world leader we are - with all those "outdated" laws in effect. It makes me think it's a damn miracle we survived at all as a country for hundreds of years! I'm aware that our Constitution and Bill of Rights is a thorn in the side of those who want to do what they feel like doing, but that's the way it is. I wonder how many illegal aliens are crossing the border eager to get into Zimbabwe or North Korea! :rantoff:
Greetings, Pero. :2wave:
Those 3 members of the NLRB are invalid. I think what the Senate will do is use the nuclear option to confirm them.
Howdy Pol, I think you know the answer to NK and Zimbabwe, none. But you hit on something, to most people in Washington and with both parties, that is what the constitution has become, just a thorn in the side. The idea behind the constitution was limited government with checks and balances. It specifically spelled out what the powers were to the federal government, spelled out what powers the states couldn't have and left everything not mentioned in the constitution to the states and or the people.
Well, for those that would like to have unfettered power with no constraints, it's got to be a constant source of irritation causing major headaches, and probably digestive problems and the heartbreak of psoriasis, too, when they're stymied. :mrgreen: Not that it stops them from trying again, mind you. Oh no. They just buy more antidepressants, and carry on - it's what their lives revolve around, I guess! So the lawsuits continue...:rock:
The appointment by ofailure as you say were done during the same time-frames of the year as with past Presidents.Why do you compare anyone's recess appointment with ofailures non recess appointments?
Apples and oranges, and way off topic, but anything for your messiah right!
When the politics are reversed in our future, what do you propose for a solution?Those 3 members of the NLRB are invalid. I think what the Senate will do is use the nuclear option to confirm them.
The appointment by ofailure as you say were done during the same time-frames of the year as with past Presidents.
And as we've seen with our messiah--another of your words calgun--what has happened in the past no longer applies to Mr. Obama.
The Senate/House are now forever open as will be true with this August recess,
costing the taxpayer dearly as with other GOP wastes such as dozens of faux committees.
Time for BHO to sue right back at ya, since he's receiving zero from the Greedy Obstructionist Party
The appointment by ofailure as you say were done during the same time-frames of the year as with past Presidents.
And as we've seen with our messiah--another of your words calgun--what has happened in the past no longer applies to Mr. Obama.
The Senate/House are now forever open as will be true with this August recess,
costing the taxpayer dearly as with other GOP wastes such as dozens of faux committees.
Time for BHO to sue right back at ya, since he's receiving zero from the Greedy Obstructionist Party
The appointment by ofailure as you say were done during the same time-frames of the year as with past Presidents.
Time of the year is not relevant, nice try, but like your messiah a failure.
Give the Republicans credit. You call them obstructionist and fail to realize the electorate you hate so much chose them
to obstruct. They improvised, stayed in town, kept the hall open, and did not recess so the dictator could not dictate
and got b.slapped by the supremes for trying to ignore the law - just like dictators and fascist do. WELL DONE
Senate Republicans - they don't get much right but they NAILED this one.
Give the Republicans credit. You call them obstructionist and fail to realize the electorate you hate so much chose them
to obstruct.
If the GOP was doing what they were sent there to do then Congress would have an approval rating higher than 8%
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