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Suppose somebody told you: There were 10 of us, 6 Christians and 4 Catholics. How would you comment?

Rumpel said:
I would inform him that Catholics also belong to Christianity.

What would you say?
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I think it depends on one's definition of Christianity. To me, Christians are people who believe that Jesus's sacrifice saved them from forever death.

The Catholic Catechism, however, teaches that Jesus's sacrifice is NOT sufficient for being saved from forever death. The Catechism says that one must also be a member of the Catholic Church in order to be saved.

It's understandable how some might believe that Catholicism is NOT a Christian belief system.

 
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Individual said:
The thread title asks the question:
"Suppose somebody told you: There were 10 of us, 6 Christians and 4 Catholics. How would you comment?"
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You completely ignore it to answer a question no one asked why?
Individual said:
I'm an atheist.
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So what?
Individual said:
Why would/should I have a problem with what those who have religious beliefs call themselves?
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Who mentioned anything about a problem
Individual said:
I simply answered the question asked. Why? Because it was asked.
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But you seem to think being atheist means something here why?
 

exactly my point.

i am not arguing about points in believing, just about classification.
 

and whats wrong about it?

when i say I am from BadenWürttemberg, that does not mean that i am not from Germany also.
 
That’s almost the opposite of my experience in Christianity. I found humility to be something that occurs over time on its own. In terms of just believing, I lay it all out while praying and gain understand through interaction. Sometimes that praying and then God putting people or events in my life where I learn something. Sometimes I get an immediate answer in my head. Sometimes I learn my thought is right but my attitude is wrong. There is a whole gamut of responses. The humility comes in realizing that as capable as I am, I have my limitations as all humans do but I am working with a being that does not have those limitations.

Stuff like skepticism just dissolves over time and with interaction. When I was called, I was uncomfortable with it for nearly 15 years due to my childhood and me surrendering and trusting took a lot of investment in me from God.

When I read the Bible or I learn new little snippets of info or wisdom as I go.
 
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to me, Catholics are a Christian denomination.
what else?
or are Catholics Moslems etc etc?
 
CLAX1911 said:
You completely ignore it to answer a question no one asked why?

So what?

Who mentioned anything about a problem

But you seem to think being atheist means something here why?
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The question asked "How would you comment?"
I did exactly that, and was done.
Why do you relentlessly continue to question my response to another's question asked and answered?
 
Rumpel said:
and whats wrong about it?

when i say I am from BadenWürttemberg, that does not mean that i am not from Germany also.
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Nothing wrong about it, your OP is correct. But I was just pointing out when asked, Catholics will usually answer Catholic and not Christian. Same for Baptist, Lutheran, etc. They don’t refer to themselves as Christian. At least in my experience. Your experience may be different. It’s generally taken for granted or automatic to assume anyone answering Catholic, Baptist etc. are Christians but different faiths within Christianity.

When someone asks me where I’m from, I usually answer Atlanta although I live 25 miles south of Atlanta or Georgia. Again, the assumption is I’m from the United States. I see nothing wrong if someone said that among 10 people, 6 were Christian and 4 were Catholic. The assumption being the ones who are Christian aren’t Catholic, but some other Christian faith. Maybe that’s too much assumption going on for you.

With all of that, to answer your question, I’d say nothing. For me, that would be the correct way of stating it. 6 people of the Christian faith who aren’t Catholic and 4 who are. I see nothing wrong with that.
 
Rumpel said:
exactly my point.

i am not arguing about points in believing, just about classification.
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The point of my response to YOUR thread was I would find no need to argue about it.
I classify ALL religions as beliefs founded on nothing more than beliefs, with the source being unknown or unimportant.
 
Rumpel said:
I would inform him that Catholics also belong to Christianity.

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Your question is hardly one of a philosophical abstraction. With Evangelicals Catholics and Christians are separate categories
 
Individual said:
The point of my response to YOUR thread was I would find no need to argue about it.
I classify ALL religions as beliefs founded on nothing more than beliefs, with the source being unknown or unimportant.
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It's not about how you personally classify things
 
Rumpel said:
Depends if i were a Moslem my self.
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The example: there were ten of us, 6 moslems and 4 ahmadiyyas is a real toxic issue in the world of Islam.
 
Rumpel said:
I would inform him that Catholics also belong to Christianity.

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"Have you sought out psychiatric assistance?"

Thats what I would say.
 
Rumpel said:
another example .... a man said: There were 6 human beings and 4 women ....
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Women are a subset less than or equal to the set of humans
 
Rumpel said:
I would inform him that Catholics also belong to Christianity.

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I'd just look at them in disgust and walk away knowing they fly a Nazi and Confederate flag and voted for Trump.
 


Its a matter of logic and/or facts. A social construct once formulated exists as a fact. And, correct, they can be arbitrary. And because they are arbitrary their use can be logical or illogical
 
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