Subservient Culture

Subservience = willingness to obey others unquestioningly. The condition of being less important than someone else.

What is subservience example?

The definition of subservient is someone who is useful, submissive and functions in a subordinate capacity. An example of someone who would be described as subservient is a meek person who defers to what Trump wants and always obeys any command given by him

Trump is the perfect example of a personality that, lacking any other moral compass, puts his own interests over all others. To achieve his goal, he is prepared to lay waste to a Nation and the whole world. In his logic, this is perfectly justified, legitimate, even inevitable as his world only knows extremes. The world is adversarial, and struggles only have winners and losers. Unlike other “wannabe” tyrants, Trump had the advantage of access to unregulated digital technologies where false news or accusations of false news did not encounter a credibility test. That enabled his rise from a failed businessman, a reality TV star, and a twice impeached US President to his current role as leader of a harmful cult.

To achieve his goal, he had to dissolve the adherence of a large group of US citizens from the existing cultural values and norms of the nation and replace them with something else. He did not replace one set of values and norms with another set. He replaced it with complete loyalty to his person. Every “Fuhrer” needs a “Volk”! He found his ideal target group in the working-class Americans that, impoverished through Reaganomics, found themself on a relentless social and economic downward slope and who had almost no knowledge or education about US history or its governance processes. Bound by mortgages, consumer debt, student loans, college fees, often one paycheck and one serious health incident away from disaster, they desperately try to hang on to what they had and to the American promise.

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Wake up Republicans, you have become subservient pawns in one man's game to fulfill his ultimate ego's dream. To be the master of a cult that does everything he says. The last person who tried to do that was Jim Jones and he succeeded fully. His success though, caused all of those that followed him to commit suicide.



Is your goal in life to do what someone else wants? If it is, why don't you join the Democrats and at least do something that helps many others instead of just helping one person? Do you honestly think that under Trump that YOU (and all other followers) will gain anything personally? If you think that, wake up!. Ask Sessions, Cohen, Barr, Pence, etc. if they are better off now than before they gave their loyalty to Trump.
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Luckyone said:

Subservience = willingness to obey others unquestioningly. The condition of being less important than someone else.

What is subservience example?

The definition of subservient is someone who is useful, submissive and functions in a subordinate capacity. An example of someone who would be described as subservient is a meek person who defers to what Trump wants and always obeys any command given by him



Wake up Republicans, you have become subservient pawns in one man's game to fulfill his ultimate ego's dream. To be the master of a cult that does everything he says. The last person who tried to do that was Jim Jones and he succeeded fully. His success though, caused all of those that followed him to commit suicide.

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Is your goal in life to do what someone else wants? If it is, why don't you join the Democrats and at least do something that helps many others instead of just helping one person? Do you honestly think that under Trump that YOU (and all other followers) will gain anything personally? If you think that, wake up!. Ask Sessions, Cohen, Barr, Pence, etc. if they are better off now than before they gave their loyalty to Trump.
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Record high employment........kind of defeats this idea.

Luckyone said:

Subservience = willingness to obey others unquestioningly. The condition of being less important than someone else.

What is subservience example?

The definition of subservient is someone who is useful, submissive and functions in a subordinate capacity. An example of someone who would be described as subservient is a meek person who defers to what Trump wants and always obeys any command given by him



Wake up Republicans, you have become subservient pawns in one man's game to fulfill his ultimate ego's dream. To be the master of a cult that does everything he says. The last person who tried to do that was Jim Jones and he succeeded fully. His success though, caused all of those that followed him to commit suicide.

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Is your goal in life to do what someone else wants? If it is, why don't you join the Democrats and at least do something that helps many others instead of just helping one person? Do you honestly think that under Trump that YOU (and all other followers) will gain anything personally? If you think that, wake up!. Ask Sessions, Cohen, Barr, Pence, etc. if they are better off now than before they gave their loyalty to Trump.
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Why is Trump the priority here?

The guy has issues, yes, but he's a former Democrat who subverted the Republicans when he endorsed McCain in 2008 after Hillary lost the DNC primary. We know this from how he chastised McCain after as a loser who got caught in Vietnam.

If we want to talk about subservient culture, we should talk about the ideology Trump comes from AKA postmodernist, relativist, emotivist fatalism. The guy is a feminist even if he won't admit it too. He promoted women ahead of men in his real estate empire, got divorced three times, and hosted the Miss Universe Pageant.

He has hedonism, materialism, and sensationalism written all over himself. It's the exact presentist attitude which feminists uphold to oppose deep thinking patriarchy because they want a world where right and wrong get defined by fashionable forms instead.

Luckyone said:

Subservience = willingness to obey others unquestioningly. The condition of being less important than someone else.

What is subservience example?

The definition of subservient is someone who is useful, submissive and functions in a subordinate capacity. An example of someone who would be described as subservient is a meek person who defers to what Trump wants and always obeys any command given by him



Wake up Republicans, you have become subservient pawns in one man's game to fulfill his ultimate ego's dream. To be the master of a cult that does everything he says. The last person who tried to do that was Jim Jones and he succeeded fully. His success though, caused all of those that followed him to commit suicide.

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Is your goal in life to do what someone else wants? If it is, why don't you join the Democrats and at least do something that helps many others instead of just helping one person? Do you honestly think that under Trump that YOU (and all other followers) will gain anything personally? If you think that, wake up!. Ask Sessions, Cohen, Barr, Pence, etc. if they are better off now than before they gave their loyalty to Trump.
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I agree with @XDU. Why is Trump the priority here?

An example of demanded / expected subservience is submission to, and acceptance of, all the mandates we've seen since the beginning of the pandemic.

Sure, many of those mandates were observed by a great many for many months, but that time has now passed, especially now since there is scientific data which casts the effectiveness of many of these mandates in doubt. The political elites are still apparently unwilling to give up the additional power and control over others, in a great many cases destroying people's lives and livelihoods, that they've had for these many months.

XDU said:

the ideology Trump comes from AKA postmodernist, relativist, emotivist fatalism.

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XDU said:

He has hedonism, materialism, and sensationalism written all over himself.

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You talk like the kind of person that read the first page of wikipedia on philosephy and think you're and expert now.

Simpletruther said:

Record high employment........kind of defeats this idea.

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How do you figure that??????

Nomad4Ever said:

You talk like the kind of person that read the first page of wikipedia on philosephy and think you're and expert now.

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I'm just keeping it simple since so many people say, "Keep it simple, stupid."

XDU said:

Why is Trump the priority here?

The guy has issues, yes, but he's a former Democrat who subverted the Republicans when he endorsed McCain in 2008 after Hillary lost the DNC primary. We know this from how he chastised McCain after as a loser who got caught in Vietnam.

If we want to talk about subservient culture, we should talk about the ideology Trump comes from AKA postmodernist, relativist, emotivist fatalism. The guy is a feminist even if he won't admit it too. He promoted women ahead of men in his real estate empire, got divorced three times, and hosted the Miss Universe Pageant.

He has hedonism, materialism, and sensationalism written all over himself. It's the exact presentist attitude which feminists uphold to oppose deep thinking patriarchy because they want a world where right and wrong get defined by fashionable forms instead.

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Trump is a priority among his cult members. This meme is 100% true as to how they feel about him.



And by the way, you NEVER see his supporters talking about issues. It is always about him.

Luckyone said:

Trump is a priority among his cult members. This meme is 100% true as to how they feel about him.

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And by the way, you NEVER see his supporters talking about issues. It is always about him.

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I'm not denying that.

I'm just saying there's more to subservient culture than his cult of personality.

XDU said:

I'm not denying that.

I'm just saying there's more to subservient culture than his cult of personality.

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This number goes to prove that there is a subservient culture under Trump

Most Republicans still believe 2020 election was stolen from Trump –​

Opinion poll finds that 53% of Republicans believe Trump is the ‘true president’

There are no facts supporting this idea. It has been proven in courts of law that there is no truth to this idea.............and yet 53% of Republicans believe the election was stolen and the only reason they believe that is because Trump believes it and consistently states it. That is a subservient culture if there ever was one, considering that 53% of Republicans means over 50 million people believe that. You cannot get more subservience than 50 million catering to your words.........which are a proven lie.

Luckyone said:

Subservience = willingness to obey others unquestioningly. The condition of being less important than someone else.

What is subservience example?

The definition of subservient is someone who is useful, submissive and functions in a subordinate capacity. An example of someone who would be described as subservient is a meek person who defers to what Trump wants and always obeys any command given by him



Wake up Republicans, you have become subservient pawns in one man's game to fulfill his ultimate ego's dream. To be the master of a cult that does everything he says. The last person who tried to do that was Jim Jones and he succeeded fully. His success though, caused all of those that followed him to commit suicide.

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Is your goal in life to do what someone else wants? If it is, why don't you join the Democrats and at least do something that helps many others instead of just helping one person? Do you honestly think that under Trump that YOU (and all other followers) will gain anything personally? If you think that, wake up!. Ask Sessions, Cohen, Barr, Pence, etc. if they are better off now than before they gave their loyalty to Trump.
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Jeesh.....comparing Trump to the Jim Jones cult, now?.....lol, as ole Joe would say, "come on man"....wtf. Here's a list of the accomplishments of the Trump administration, despite the obstruction of the democrats and msm and two impeachment fiasco's.....




Very impressive.

Luckyone said:

This number goes to prove that there is a subservient culture under Trump

Most Republicans still believe 2020 election was stolen from Trump –​

Opinion poll finds that 53% of Republicans believe Trump is the ‘true president’

There are no facts supporting this idea. It has been proven in courts of law that there is no truth to this idea.............and yet 53% of Republicans believe the election was stolen and the only reason they believe that is because Trump believes it and consistently states it. That is a subservient culture if there ever was one, considering that 53% of Republicans means over 50 million people believe that. You cannot get more subservience than 50 million catering to your words.........which are a proven lie.

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Dude. I agree that Trump is problematic. You're preaching to the choir.

All I'm saying is he's a part of the bigger problem.

redbeer said:

Jeesh.....comparing Trump to the Jim Jones cult, now?.....lol, as ole Joe would say, "come on man"....wtf. Here's a list of the accomplishments of the Trump administration, despite the obstruction of the democrats and msm and two impeachment fiasco's.....

https://lc.org/PDFs/Trump.Accomplishments.FINAL.pdf

Very impressive.

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None of his supporters are talking about what he accomplished. Most are talking about his statement that the election was fraudulent and believing his words in spite of all the overwhelming proof to the contrary. Over 50 million Republicans believe Trump's words about the election being stolen, the same way that 915 Jones cult members believed that killing themselves would take them to a new world where they would be happier.

Comparing Trump to Jones is 100% correct. People blindly follow what Trump tells them, no matter what it is. The uprising against Pence (off of Trump's own words with absolutely no reality or reason to go after Pence) is a perfect example of a subservient mentality. Pence was the Vice President of the Republicans (one of their own) and they turned on him because of Trump's words. How clearer can it be shown that subservience to Trump exists than this example?

XDU said:

Dude. I agree that Trump is problematic. You're preaching to the choir.

All I'm saying is he's a part of the bigger problem.

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Bigger problem? the problem is ignorance and blind belief that there is a Superman that will solve all of their problems. Subservience is a direct result of ignorance and a lack of confidence in one's own mental capability. The need to follow someone they believe will pull them out from where they find themselves buried at by their own inability to cope with reality.

That is the problem. It is not bigger, it is normal. Lack of education is the basis of that. It so happens that a master con artist came on stage and was good enough of a con man to convince them totally.

Luckyone said:

None of his supporters are talking about what he accomplished. Most are talking about his statement that the election was fraudulent and believing his words in spite of all the overwhelming proof to the contrary. Over 50 million Republicans believe Trump's words about the election being stolen, the same way that 915 Jones cult members believed that killing themselves would take them to a new world where they would be happier.

Comparing Trump to Jones is 100% correct. People blindly follow what Trump tells them, no matter what it is. The uprising against Pence (off of Trump's own words with absolutely no reality or reason to go after Pence) is a perfect example of a subservient mentality. Pence was the Vice President of the Republicans (one of their own) and they turned on him because of Trump's words. How clearer can it be shown that subservience to Trump exists than this example?

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You watch too much lame news networks, lol. They have indoctrinated you to the point wherein you actually believe those who support Trump are in a cult, lol.....and you don't even realize it. It's real strange, at times, to see this kind of mental gymnastics from those who accuse others of the things they do.....Rofl....too damn weird.

redbeer said:

You watch too much lame news networks, lol. They have indoctrinated you to the point wherein you actually believe those who support Trump are in a cult, lol.....and you don't even realize it. It's real strange, at times, to see this kind of mental gymnastics from those who accuse others of the things they do.....Rofl....too damn weird.

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The 'mental gymnastics', extreme rationalizations, all in a 'Subservient Culture', if you will, to push the preferred / demanded politically driven push narrative: 'Trump supporters are a cult'.
All this as a Subservient Culture to push division and tribalism, exactly how the left's practicing of identity politics, the politics of division.

So self-unaware they, they don't even realize how much they and their base are little more than a Subservient Culture to the above observed points.

eohrnberger said:

The 'mental gymnastics', extreme rationalizations, all in a 'Subservient Culture', if you will, to push the preferred / demanded politically driven push narrative: 'Trump supporters are a cult'.
All this as a Subservient Culture to push division and tribalism, exactly how the left's practicing of identity politics, the politics of division.

So self-unaware they, they don't even realize how much they and their base are little more than a Subservient Culture to the above observed points.

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Yeah, it's crazy......I've never met anybody who reacts to Trump in the way they picture....most I know, myself included like Trump for his policies, as a business man to increase the livelihood of Americans.....like that he speaks off the top if his head, at the same time knows he takes it too far, but that's his personality.....the fact through all the fabrications, lies, labels, and falsehoods, he continued on doing things for the country, no matter what. At the end, he took it too far, imo.....and should of kept his mouth shut, wait it out, and let the chips fall where they may....but he couldn't. This hurt him in the longrun, as the left are quite incapable of any sensible dialect when it comes to Trump and will forever hate for the reason of hate on anything "Trump"......through years of indoctrination, as we've witnessed.

redbeer said:

Yeah, it's crazy......I've never met anybody who reacts to Trump in the way they picture....most I know, myself included like Trump for his policies, as a business man to increase the livelihood of Americans.....like that he speaks off the top if his head, at the same time knows he takes it too far, but that's his personality.....the fact through all the fabrications, lies, labels, and falsehoods, he continued on doing things for the country, no matter what. At the end, he took it too far, imo.....and should of kept his mouth shut, wait it out, and let the chips fall where they may....but he couldn't. This hurt him in the longrun, as the left are quite incapable of any sensible dialect when it comes to Trump and will forever hate for the reason of hate on anything "Trump"......through years of indoctrination, as we've witnessed.

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This is pretty much a good description of where I am on Trump, and have been for a long time.
Yet I'm constantly being accused of Trump being my god, or of being a Trump cult member, by those of the left.

All I can believe is that this is pure projection on their part, and describes how they relate to their preferred political leaders.

redbeer said:

You watch too much lame news networks, lol. They have indoctrinated you to the point wherein you actually believe those who support Trump are in a cult, lol.....and you don't even realize it. It's real strange, at times, to see this kind of mental gymnastics from those who accuse others of the things they do.....Rofl....too damn weird.

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My automatic response to this post of yours is: "prove your words"

1) I watch to much lame news networks? No, this is my own evaluation of what Trump is doing. I have been a chart analyst in the market for 44 years and I am accustomed to people listening to me, and not me listening to people. You evidently have done your own erroneous evaluation of who I am.
2) They have indoctrinated me to the point where I actually believe those who support Trump are in a cult. No, Trump supporters themselves have convinced me they are in a cult. Look at yourself (for example). You make this kind of a post that is full of words and excuses for Trump but you offer no proof to the contrary of what I stated. Your words show you to be a "cult member".
3) Mental gymnastics from those who accuse other of the things they do? No, it is called evaluation the facts and data and coming to a conclusion of what it means. If my conclusion is erroneous, it can "easily" be proven wrong by showing facts to the contrary................something you have yet to do in spite of "countless" opportunities to do so. It suggests that it is you that is not using any mental gymnastics. Simply following what your leader (Trump) is telling you what it is.
4) too damn weird? No, it is not weird at all. I has happened on countless of occasions before (example Jonestown). It is normal for ignorance to beget more ignorance and blind following of the chosen leader.

Hey, Redbeer. If you are right, you should have no problem proving your point with data and facts. So far, the only things you have used in an attempt to prove your point are words, which everyone can get by just opening a dictionary. Simply stated, you are not using your mind at all.

redbeer said:

Yeah, it's crazy......I've never met anybody who reacts to Trump in the way they picture....most I know, myself included like Trump for his policies, as a business man to increase the livelihood of Americans.....like that he speaks off the top if his head, at the same time knows he takes it too far, but that's his personality.....the fact through all the fabrications, lies, labels, and falsehoods, he continued on doing things for the country, no matter what. At the end, he took it too far, imo.....and should of kept his mouth shut, wait it out, and let the chips fall where they may....but he couldn't. This hurt him in the longrun, as the left are quite incapable of any sensible dialect when it comes to Trump and will forever hate for the reason of hate on anything "Trump"......through years of indoctrination, as we've witnessed.

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I will make you a bet Redbeer. For every positive of Trump you can name, I can name 3 negatives (and I am being conservative in the number). For everything you say Trump has accomplished for the nation, I can name 3 things he has done that has hurt the nation. Where you have more negatives than positives, most intelligent people would say "he is not good for the nation".

Marriage, business relationships, friendships and even working for a common goal requires that each person adds more than he subtracts as more subtraction than addition ends up with failure.

You keep on mentioning what good Trump has done but I have never seen you ever agree on the "proven" negatives (and there are many "proven" negatives"). That goes to prove that you are a cult member that believes blindly in Trump and will do anything he says, even if you know it is wrong. Did you know that it is a FACT of life that no one is perfect? As such, only a cult member that believes blindly in his/her leader would ignore the negatives of a person.

Luckyone said:

How do you figure that??????

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I Will quote you:
Do you honestly think that under Trump that YOU (and all other followers) will gain anything personally? If

Simpletruther said:

I Will quote you:
Do you honestly think that under Trump that YOU (and all other followers) will gain anything personally?

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Under Obama, unemployment went from 9.1 to 4.3. Under Trump, it went from 4.3 to 3.4 and at the end of his term in January 2021, it was 6.3% You think people benefitted much (in comparison to what they lost) with Trump in office?

It was under Obama that the trend changed (went down) and Trump simply experienced the "continuation" of the trend. Nonetheless, at the end, unemployment went higher that when Obama ended his time in office.

Luckyone said:

Under Obama, unemployment went from 9.1 to 4.3. Under Trump, it went from 4.3 to 3.4 and at the end of his term in January 2021, it was 6.3% You think people benefitted much (in comparison to what they lost) with Trump in office?

It was under Obama that the trend changed (went down) and Trump simply experienced the "continuation" of the trend. Nonetheless, at the end, unemployment went higher that when Obama ended his time in office.

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Yes, it's easy to add jobs when there is lots of unemployment. Trump however drove unemployment to an all time record low. And record employment for blacks as well.

Even if he screwed up covid which I disagree, he was doing wonders apart from it.

Simpletruther said:

Yes, it's easy to add jobs when there is lots of unemployment. Tru p however drove unemployment to Am all time record low. And record employment for blacks as well.

Even if he screwed up covid which I disagree, he was doing wonders apart from it.

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Agreed. I was about to mention that in response, but . . . well, you beat me to it.
The last months of the Trump administration's economy, from the onset of the pandemic to the end, need always have an asterisk besides it, as being atypical in comparison to all previous time periods and economic performance measures.

Simpletruther said:

Yes, it's easy to add jobs when there is lots of unemployment. Trump however drove unemployment to an all time record low. And record employment for blacks as well.

Even if he screwed up covid which I disagree, he was doing wonders apart from it.

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It was mostly an empty victory given all the people that died unnecessarily from Covid due to his incompetence in addressing the pandemic at the beginning where the proper steps to address it are critical. Once the pandemic grabs hold of the population, it tends to do whatever it wants to do. Trump could have done things different that would have prevented many deaths.

What good is having unemployment go down from 4.3 to 3.4 is you or members of your family died because of the incompetence of Trump.

No Simpletruther, you will not convince me that Trump helped this country more than he hurt it. Like I said before, I can name 3 (or more) things that he did to hurt the country in profound ways for every 1 positive that happened because he was president...............and I am being conservative in my 3-1 ratio. I would venture to say it could be as high as 10-1 (if not even higher).

Bottom line and talking about the OP itself, his followers are cult members that cannot see any of the bad things and therefore cannot evaluate correctly who he is/was. It is a subservient-to-Trump scenario and subservient is always a negative to anyone.