• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every persons position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Subforums For Those Who Share Political Views

Status
Not open for further replies.

Geoist

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
7,948
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
I would be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before, but one thing DP seems to be really missing are sub-forums for politically like-minded posters. I am talking about a sub-forum for conservatives, another for liberals, libertarians, radicals/anarchists, etc. It is great to go and debate people who always disagree, but sometimes it is also great to just talk politics and ideas with posters who share your beliefs. It is nice to share videos, articles, etc and have fruitful discussions without it degenerating into cheap shot political arguments and what-aboutisms. Obviously, these sub-forums would have to be invitation-only but I think this could be something that would be beneficial to the DP community.
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
61,332
Reaction score
24,075
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
I would be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before, but one thing DP seems to be really missing are sub-forums for politically like-minded posters. I am talking about a sub-forum for conservatives, another for liberals, libertarians, radicals/anarchists, etc. It is great to go and debate people who always disagree, but sometimes it is also great to just talk politics and ideas with posters who share your beliefs. It is nice to share videos, articles, etc and have fruitful discussions without it degenerating into cheap shot political arguments and what-aboutisms. Obviously, these sub-forums would have to be invitation-only but I think this could be something that would be beneficial to the DP community.
No.

This is an open forum. We don't need any secret areas just for "like-minded" people. You should always be prepared to defend your position from all who would comment about it.

However, I would like to see a reduction of the "cheap shot political arguments and what-aboutisms". Those infest every forum and are never conducive to useful discussion. But that could...and should...be handled by mod action. No need for new sub-forums.
 

Surrealistik

DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 6, 2015
Messages
6,885
Reaction score
3,150
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
I would be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before, but one thing DP seems to be really missing are sub-forums for politically like-minded posters. I am talking about a sub-forum for conservatives, another for liberals, libertarians, radicals/anarchists, etc. It is great to go and debate people who always disagree, but sometimes it is also great to just talk politics and ideas with posters who share your beliefs. It is nice to share videos, articles, etc and have fruitful discussions without it degenerating into cheap shot political arguments and what-aboutisms. Obviously, these sub-forums would have to be invitation-only but I think this could be something that would be beneficial to the DP community.
Though this kind of exists to an extent with groups and the like, I think I'm generally in agreement with this being a good thing.
 

Luther

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
May 17, 2019
Messages
11,916
Reaction score
1,253
Location
Idaho
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
I would be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before, but one thing DP seems to be really missing are sub-forums for politically like-minded posters. I am talking about a sub-forum for conservatives, another for liberals, libertarians, radicals/anarchists, etc. It is great to go and debate people who always disagree, but sometimes it is also great to just talk politics and ideas with posters who share your beliefs. It is nice to share videos, articles, etc and have fruitful discussions without it degenerating into cheap shot political arguments and what-aboutisms. Obviously, these sub-forums would have to be invitation-only but I think this could be something that would be beneficial to the DP community.


There's plenty of "echo chambers" out there on the net
 

bearpoker

DP Veteran
Joined
May 12, 2017
Messages
9,881
Reaction score
5,631
Location
Tennessee
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Liberal
I would be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before, but one thing DP seems to be really missing are sub-forums for politically like-minded posters. I am talking about a sub-forum for conservatives, another for liberals, libertarians, radicals/anarchists, etc. It is great to go and debate people who always disagree, but sometimes it is also great to just talk politics and ideas with posters who share your beliefs. It is nice to share videos, articles, etc and have fruitful discussions without it degenerating into cheap shot political arguments and what-aboutisms. Obviously, these sub-forums would have to be invitation-only but I think this could be something that would be beneficial to the DP community.
No matter the format there will always be some disadvantages. Arguments degenerate into spats all the time here. If we had forums with only like minded posters, discussions would degenerate into agreement with no reality check from the other side.
 

X Factor

Anti-Socialist
Dungeon Master
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 1, 2010
Messages
55,009
Reaction score
27,292
Location
El Paso Strong
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
I would be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before, but one thing DP seems to be really missing are sub-forums for politically like-minded posters. I am talking about a sub-forum for conservatives, another for liberals, libertarians, radicals/anarchists, etc. It is great to go and debate people who always disagree, but sometimes it is also great to just talk politics and ideas with posters who share your beliefs. It is nice to share videos, articles, etc and have fruitful discussions without it degenerating into cheap shot political arguments and what-aboutisms. Obviously, these sub-forums would have to be invitation-only but I think this could be something that would be beneficial to the DP community.
I don’t think the invitation only thing would happen but this isn’t a bad idea.
 

HumblePi

DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 3, 2018
Messages
22,708
Reaction score
14,457
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Centrist
I think it's a great idea, why not?
 

Geoist

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
7,948
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
No.

This is an open forum. We don't need any secret areas just for "like-minded" people. You should always be prepared to defend your position from all who would comment about it.
I never said anything about taking away the other subforums for debate. :roll:
 

Geoist

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
7,948
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
There's plenty of "echo chambers" out there on the net
DP is far from being an echo chamber. But some posters who have formed a connection over the years may want a place to share links, ideas, and issues that concern the group without having to rely on PMing. This wouldn't take away anything from the rest of the site and there would still be plenty of debate.
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
61,332
Reaction score
24,075
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative

Geoist

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
7,948
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
No matter the format there will always be some disadvantages. Arguments degenerate into spats all the time here. If we had forums with only like minded posters, discussions would degenerate into agreement with no reality check from the other side.
You think everyone would just seclude themselves to their group subforums? I have been on debate sites that have such forums and I will tell you that is definitely not the case. People go to DP to debate those who disagree with them. This would just be a nice addition to strengthen connections.
 

Geoist

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
7,948
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
I didn't either.
Then what is with the comment, "You should always be prepared to defend your arguments" as if there would be no more open forum?
 

Geoist

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
7,948
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
I don’t think the invitation only thing would happen but this isn’t a bad idea.
Maybe not just invitation, but posters could apply and moderators could approve.
 

Geoist

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
7,948
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
No matter the format there will always be some disadvantages. Arguments degenerate into spats all the time here. If we had forums with only like minded posters, discussions would degenerate into agreement with no reality check from the other side.
Actually, when I was on Political Crossfire back in the day, there was still a bit of debate and disagreement going on in the Libertarian Forum. We had your typical right-libertarians alongside a couple geolibertarians/left-libertarians and a passionate anarchist.
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
61,332
Reaction score
24,075
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Then what is with the comment, "You should always be prepared to defend your arguments" as if there would be no more open forum?
You want a private area where you can express yourself without anyone raising issues with what you are saying. I'm telling you to just say what you want in the open forum and be prepared to defend your statements. There is no need for a "safe space" where only like-minded people are allowed to hang out.
 

bearpoker

DP Veteran
Joined
May 12, 2017
Messages
9,881
Reaction score
5,631
Location
Tennessee
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Liberal
Actually, when I was on Political Crossfire back in the day, there was still a bit of debate and disagreement going on in the Libertarian Forum. We had your typical right-libertarians alongside a couple geolibertarians/left-libertarians and a passionate anarchist.
Sounds like fun.:mrgreen:
 

beancounter

DP Veteran
Joined
Sep 6, 2017
Messages
2,006
Reaction score
1,082
Location
At the Center of Eternity
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Moderate
I would be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before, but one thing DP seems to be really missing are sub-forums for politically like-minded posters. I am talking about a sub-forum for conservatives, another for liberals, libertarians, radicals/anarchists, etc. It is great to go and debate people who always disagree, but sometimes it is also great to just talk politics and ideas with posters who share your beliefs. It is nice to share videos, articles, etc and have fruitful discussions without it degenerating into cheap shot political arguments and what-aboutisms. Obviously, these sub-forums would have to be invitation-only but I think this could be something that would be beneficial to the DP community.
Echo chambers are nice for a while, but end up getting stale pretty quickly. Initially, you'd get a bunch of people holding hands and shouting "Yah for our side", but people will end up getting bored and move on in short order.

I'm speaking from personal experience in another forum.
 

Geoist

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
7,948
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
You want a private area where you can express yourself without anyone raising issues with what you are saying. I'm telling you to just say what you want in the open forum and be prepared to defend your statements. There is no need for a "safe space" where only like-minded people are allowed to hang out.
There are benefits to having subforums for various political ideologies. For example, they can sticky threads organizing topics that allow posters to find sources and research. But I see I am not going to change your mind so whatever.
 

Geoist

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
7,948
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Echo chambers are nice for a while, but end up getting stale pretty quickly. Initially, you'd get a bunch of people holding hands and shouting "Yah for our side", but people will end up getting bored and move on in short order.

I'm speaking from personal experience in another forum.
Well that certainly was not my experience. But I suppose a moderate forum would be pretty boring. ;)
 

Rogue Valley

Say Her Name
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 18, 2013
Messages
53,176
Reaction score
37,569
Awards
1
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
I would be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before, but one thing DP seems to be really missing are sub-forums for politically like-minded posters. I am talking about a sub-forum for conservatives, another for liberals, libertarians, radicals/anarchists, etc. It is great to go and debate people who always disagree, but sometimes it is also great to just talk politics and ideas with posters who share your beliefs. It is nice to share videos, articles, etc and have fruitful discussions without it degenerating into cheap shot political arguments and what-aboutisms. Obviously, these sub-forums would have to be invitation-only but I think this could be something that would be beneficial to the DP community.
I'm not averse to the idea, but I think this could be accomplished right now via the DP "Groups" feature. Make the various groups private.

Membership is gained by either invitation or by a join-request approved by the group founder.
 

Bullseye

Every job is essential
DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 18, 2018
Messages
25,144
Reaction score
8,557
Location
San Diego
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
I would be surprised if this hasn't been suggested before, but one thing DP seems to be really missing are sub-forums for politically like-minded posters. I am talking about a sub-forum for conservatives, another for liberals, libertarians, radicals/anarchists, etc. It is great to go and debate people who always disagree, but sometimes it is also great to just talk politics and ideas with posters who share your beliefs. It is nice to share videos, articles, etc and have fruitful discussions without it degenerating into cheap shot political arguments and what-aboutisms. Obviously, these sub-forums would have to be invitation-only but I think this could be something that would be beneficial to the DP community.
Kinda takes the "Debate" out of "Debate Politics", doesn't it? There are single ideology forums elsewhere on the net, so I'm not sure separate ideology sub-forums add much benefit to DP.
 

Geoist

DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 14, 2012
Messages
16,306
Reaction score
7,948
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Libertarian - Left
Kinda takes the "Debate" out of "Debate Politics", doesn't it?
No, it doesn't. No one said debate couldn't occur within the ideology sub-forums, and no one said take down the other forums.

Does the Leisure subforum take the "Debate" out of "Debate Politics?"


There are single ideology forums elsewhere on the net, so I'm not sure separate ideology sub-forums add much benefit to DP.
There are also other political debate forums on the net.
 

Bullseye

Every job is essential
DP Veteran
Joined
Mar 18, 2018
Messages
25,144
Reaction score
8,557
Location
San Diego
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
No, it doesn't. No one said debate couldn't occur within the ideology sub-forums, and no one said take down the other forums.

Does the Leisure subforum take the "Debate" out of "Debate Politics?"
You asked for an opinion - you got one.


Geoist' There are also other political debate forums on the net.[/QUOTE said:
Isn't that what I just said?
 

RedAkston

Silent Bob for President!
Administrator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Monthly Subscriber
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 12, 2007
Messages
44,350
Reaction score
25,572
Awards
3
Location
Florida
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
Moderator's Warning:
The staff has actually discussed something like this before, in fact I'm the one who brought it up for discussion. While there are advantages to something like this, there are also disadvantages. As someone has already mentioned, the "groups" feature is perfect for this type of thing. We want to keep the forums open to everyone for debate, for everyone.

Thanks for the suggestion, closing the thread.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom