Stupid lockdowns

[Good4Nothin]

lockdowns in Europe and the United States only reduced COVID-19 mortality by 0.2% on average.

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

 

[Fledermaus]

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

Saving people = Bad.....

 

[aociswundumho]

Saving people = Bad.....

Depends on the cost. If we banned driving we could save ten of thousands lives per year, but it's not worth the cost.

 

[lemmiwinx]

Advise people to lockdown don't force them. The stupid ones won't, problem solved.

 

[Captain Adverse]

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

They have their place when their is a real chance of containing a viral outbreak.

As I pointed out here:

Who here is still glad we didn't do a 2 month, nationwide, hard lock down like China did back in April/May

Asking for a friend.

debatepolitics.com

Basically, if you can discover an outbreak at its initial stage, along with the kind of primary vector, then "locking down" (quarantining an entire sector) is the best first step.

Once it has been allowed to spread in multiple unknown directions, then lockdowns don't make much sense.

Instead, isolating and protecting those most at risk from infection, while working on a medical solution, is the next best step.

 

[donhughesmusic]

Depends on the cost. If we banned driving we could save ten of thousands lives per year, but it's not worth the cost.

Eh, think about all the money cities would make on public transportation lol

 

[Ginger Ale]

What percentage of death would work for you? .5? .6?

FYI: This is an ugly way to try and thwart the libs.

 

[j brown's body]

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

I blame poor, untrustworthy national leadership.

 

[Mr Person]

No way am I clicking a link to a pdf download, especially not when the individual posting it pumps out deadly disinfo regularly.

 

[Hamish Howl]

They have their place when their is a real chance of containing a viral outbreak.

As I pointed out here:

Who here is still glad we didn't do a 2 month, nationwide, hard lock down like China did back in April/May

Asking for a friend.

debatepolitics.com

Basically, if you can discover an outbreak at its initial stage, along with the kind of primary vector, then "locking down" (quarantining an entire sector) is the best first step.

Once it has been allowed to spread in multiple unknown directions, then lockdowns don't make much sense.

Instead, isolating and protecting those most at risk from infection, while working on a medical solution, is the next best step.

This is correct, with the caveat that time is more important than region in a civilization that includes highways and air travel.

But we didn't do any of that. We kinda did, but the usual suspects threw a wrench in it, so we wound up with all the vices of a lockdown and none of the virtues.

Because Americans have absolutely no sense of discipline.

 

[Fledermaus]

Depends on the cost. If we banned driving we could save ten of thousands lives per year, but it's not worth the cost.

COVID has dwarfed the auto deaths....

 

[PoS]

No way am I clicking a link to a pdf download, especially not when the individual posting it pumps out deadly disinfo regularly.

LOL proclaiming ignorance as an excuse is silly. But hey, you be you.

 

[snakestretcher]

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

Economists lecturing about viral pandemics. What could possibly go wrong

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

What percentage of death would work for you? .5? .6?

FYI: This is an ugly way to try and thwart the libs.

Lives lost and or ruined vs lives saved. Extended lockdown did more harm than good.

 

[Ginger Ale]

Lives lost and or ruined vs lives saved. Extended lockdown did more harm than good.

So, you think losing your business is worse than long Covid or death? The problem I have with armchair reviews of subjects like a pandemic is you really have no idea what you'd do calling those shots, nor what would have happened if you did it your way. In other words, you have the easiest job, talking shit about something you know little about.

 

[Chainsawmassacre]

So, you think losing your business is worse than long Covid or death? The problem I have with armchair reviews of subjects like a pandemic is you really have no idea what you'd do calling those shots, nor what would have happened if you did it your way. In other words, you have the easiest job, talking shit about something you know little about.

Lockdowns failed to do anything but destroy the economy. Suicide and drug addiction deaths increased as a result.

 

[Fledermaus]

Lockdowns failed to do anything but destroy the economy. Suicide and drug addiction deaths increased as a result.

Incorrect.

 

[year2late]

https://sites.krieger.jhu.edu/iae/files/2022/01/A-Literature-Review-and-Meta-Analysis-of-the-Effects-of-Lockdowns-on-COVID-19-Mortality.pdf

Good for nothing....do you feel locked down?

Outside of some folks working from home......most people I know are living their lives....movies, sports. vacations, going out for meals, shopping, parties.

Mind you, if folks heeded the messages early on instead of trivializing public health requests/demands.....we could have been out of this a whole lot sooner.

 

[Monica33]

Scamming people to believe that nanoparticles will be blocked in lockdown conditions is hysterically funny.

But take my word for it , there will be many who fall for it and will seek to defend such a crackpot idea .

I have seen it .

Call me a liar but I truly have .

 

[Good4Nothin]

So, you think losing your business is worse than long Covid or death? The problem I have with armchair reviews of subjects like a pandemic is you really have no idea what you'd do calling those shots, nor what would have happened if you did it your way. In other words, you have the easiest job, talking shit about something you know little about.

The lockdowns probably killed many more people than they saved. They saved a tiny percentage, according to the OP research. How many died from poverty, depression, drugs and alcohol, isolation? How many old folks wasted away in nursing homes while their children and grandchildren were not allowed to visit them?

 

[Good4Nothin]

Good for nothing....do you feel locked down?

Outside of some folks working from home......most people I know are living their lives....movies, sports. vacations, going out for meals, shopping, parties.

Mind you, if folks heeded the messages early on instead of trivializing public health requests/demands.....we could have been out of this a whole lot sooner.

HOW can anyone possibly prove what would have happened?

 

[Fledermaus]

Scamming people to believe that nanoparticles will be blocked in lockdown conditions is hysterically funny.

Lockdowns work where properly used. Proven many times over.

But take my word for it , there will be many who fall for it and will seek to defend such a crackpot idea .

Facts are facts.

I have seen it .

Call me a liar but I truly have .

No need to.

You have self identified.

Accurately to boot.

 

[Rawley]

They have their place when their is a real chance of containing a viral outbreak.

As I pointed out here:

Who here is still glad we didn't do a 2 month, nationwide, hard lock down like China did back in April/May

Asking for a friend.

debatepolitics.com

Basically, if you can discover an outbreak at its initial stage, along with the kind of primary vector, then "locking down" (quarantining an entire sector) is the best first step.

Once it has been allowed to spread in multiple unknown directions, then lockdowns don't make much sense.

Instead, isolating and protecting those most at risk from infection, while working on a medical solution, is the next best step.

Sure. If the Chinese had locked down the area around the lab where it was released. But here in the US? It was first detected in Washington,. they were locked down. Then cases were detected in Chicago, then Arizona, then NY. All of these were quarantined and locked down. But is was too late by then, wasn't it? It was all over the country

 

[Rawley]

The lockdowns probably killed many more people than they saved. They saved a tiny percentage, according to the OP research. How many died from poverty, depression, drugs and alcohol, isolation? How many old folks wasted away in nursing homes while their children and grandchildren were not allowed to visit them?

People not going to the doctor/hospital ...

 

[Fledermaus]

HOW can anyone possibly prove what would have happened?

Funny how you are moving away from your failed attempts at touting Ivermectin.