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Students around the world go on strike protesting climate change

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It is based on the unanimous consensus of every single scientific organization on the entire planet.
Really? Care to present some recent evidence of that?
 

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Yes. We should not take the future of the next generation seriously until they set themselves on fire in the streets.
Setting themselves on fire would be as productive as hooking school

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Again the consensus of scientists, has been exaggerated beyond it meaning,
The consensus does not include CO2 sensitivity.
It's ignorant and naive to think that we can dump millions of years worth of carbon deposits back into the atmosphere without having a significant impact on the climate. Ecosystems are built on a delicate balance and if it's disrupted too much, species start to die off. No one knows exactly how climate change is going to play out. But it WILL cause problems, and we should act to prepare and to minimize it.
 

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What big sacrifice are those that are against abortions taking when they just go out and hold signs? What sacrifice are those people making when they protest gay marriage? Not all protests have to have the person sacrificing for it to be a valid protest.
Your whataboutism is unimpressive.

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It's ignorant and naive to think that we can dump millions of years worth of carbon deposits back into the atmosphere without having a significant impact on the climate. Ecosystems are built on a delicate balance and if it's disrupted too much, species start to die off. No one knows exactly how climate change is going to play out. But it WILL cause problems, and we should act to prepare and to minimize it.
It is ignorant and naive to make assumptions about something before we have supporting evidence!
 

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Yeah. Hurricane season is nothing new and you wish to blame it on climate change. :lamo I wonder if monitoring CO2 does any thing? Logically thinking, it does not.
Sea levels rising and the Gulf of Mexico reaching temperatures unseen ever in history are all contributors to the epic and historic flooding in Texas.
 

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It is ignorant and naive to make assumptions about something before we have supporting evidence!
I'm not making assumptions, we have historical and paleontological records of climate changes in the Earth's past, and we know the disasters they can cause, such as mass extinctions. Whether it be by volcanic eruption, or by human emissions, too much new material into the atmosphere is disruptive to the climate, sometimes catastrophically so.
 

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Most of the kids will ditch the rally and go smoke dope and play video games somewhere. They know when they are being manipulated by grownups.

I’d like to see a statistic on sales of abortion pills in a month or so.
The older generation is replaceable. Young people are replacing them. :)
 

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We are on the gulf coast, we get tropical weather, it happens.
Lots of development, means more ground covered in concrete, and faster runoff to drainage.
Houston has been flooding since it's founding, and does a great job of dealing with it,
but it is really nothing new.

HCFCD - Harris County's Flooding History
When was the last time any town in Texas got 42 inches of rain in a 24 hour period of time and not during a hurricane?
 

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Sea levels rising and the Gulf of Mexico reaching temperatures unseen ever in history are all contributors to the epic and historic flooding in Texas.
Assuming this is true, that is all caused by CO2 saturation in the 'sphere?
 

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The older generation is replaceable. Young people are replacing them. :)
Thankfully they all aren’t afraid of their shadow.

BTW, what do you want to change the climate to? Or is this an unfair question?

And what do you say to other nations that get deleterious effects due to one nation changing it to suit their own ideas of what weather is supposed to be like?
 

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Thankfully they all aren’t afraid of their shadow.

BTW, what do you want to change the climate to? Or is this an unfair question?

And what do you say to other nations that get deleterious effects due to one nation changing it to suit their own ideas of what weather is supposed to be like?
You can't find the answers to those questions for the same reason that a fugitive can't find the police. :)
 

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It's ignorant and naive to think that we can dump millions of years worth of carbon deposits back into the atmosphere without having a significant impact on the climate. Ecosystems are built on a delicate balance and if it's disrupted too much, species start to die off. No one knows exactly how climate change is going to play out. But it WILL cause problems, and we should act to prepare and to minimize it.
It's ignorant and naïve that the planet can dump heavy amounts of greenhouse gases (caused by the evaporation of heavy rains) back into the 'sphere w/o having a significant impact on the planet. Ecosystems...

Prevent climate change. Limit the rain, man.
 

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Are we suppose to believe taking a day off from school is some big sacrifice on their part.

Why not do something that would actually counter climate change like turning off the airconditoners for the entire school year. Of course that wont happen because that would be an inconvenience for them. Something like that i would respect. Giving yourself a day off from school... not so much.

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How about each school organize a field trip to clean up a park, river or trash-ridden neighborhood? There are so many more productive ways to get kids involved besides the taxpayers funding a day of hooky to go stomp around the streets.
 

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Can kids take a school-sanctioned day off for anything now, like 2A rights or anti-abortion?
Of course not! That wouldn't help get a Democrat to beat Trump in 2020. These school kids are mere tools to the Left. Young, impressionable and plenty of rebellious energy.
 

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It's ignorant and naïve that the planet can dump heavy amounts of greenhouse gases (caused by the evaporation of heavy rains) back into the 'sphere w/o having a significant impact on the planet. Ecosystems...Prevent climate change. Limit the rain, man.
Rainwater evaporation DOES have a significant impact on climate change. Greater concentrations of other greenhouse gasses lead to higher temperatures, which causesm water vapor to cycle through the atmosphere more rapidly. That means more evaporation, means more water vapor, means higher temperatures. Positive feedback loop.
 

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I'm not making assumptions, we have historical and paleontological records of climate changes in the Earth's past, and we know the disasters they can cause, such as mass extinctions. Whether it be by volcanic eruption, or by human emissions, too much new material into the atmosphere is disruptive to the climate, sometimes catastrophically so.
The assumption is that we know how the climate will respond to the forcing warming from added CO2, yet we do not have any
evidence of how it will respond, only modeled outputs based on assumptions of how the climate will respond.
 

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Rainwater evaporation DOES have a significant impact on climate change. Greater concentrations of other greenhouse gasses lead to higher temperatures, which causesm water vapor to cycle through the atmosphere more rapidly. That means more evaporation, means more water vapor, means higher temperatures. Positive feedback loop.
And water vapor is about 95% of all greenhouse gases in the 'sphere, yet, you concentrate on CO2? What about the rain, man?
 

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When was the last time any town in Texas got 42 inches of rain in a 24 hour period of time and not during a hurricane?
yesterday! and in 1979, Also the was a tropical event.
 

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Climate Activism - Tearful Teenybopper Style

COP24, the speech by 15-year-old climate activist Greta Thunberg

Excerpt from linked article, Youtube of speech below:
Excerpt from Lifegate Article said:
The COP24 in Katowice has ended leaving many doubts among environmental associations. However, there’s who doesn’t give in – like Swedish activist Greta Thunberg, who decided to go to Poland to give a speech at the UN climate conference.
Thunberg is a 15-year-old climate activist with the Asperger’s syndrome who is continuing her school strike each and every Friday to ask Sweden’s government and other countries to act against climate change. In her speech at the COP24 plenary she has pointed out how no solutions adequate to the gravity of the situation have been taken. Greta Thunberg has also called on students to join an international school strike on 14 December.
Impressive, intelligent teen or indoctrinated activism? You decide.

Her near-to-opening words are "I have learned that we are never too small to make a difference", referring to her country, Sweden. The problem isn't that Sweden is too small or Greta Thunberg too young. The problem is that she, like so many,is thoroughly indoctrinated to the point that she, and others, have lost their ability to think and to balance. I sincerely doubt that she has read the statistics for even one city for the stretch of history, accepting blindly the "models" that show rapidly increasing temperatures. These models are largely based on proxy or interpolated data. This is causing out-and-out hysteria.


 

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The assumption is that we know how the climate will respond to the forcing warming from added CO2, yet we do not have any
evidence of how it will respond, only modeled outputs based on assumptions of how the climate will respond.
Correct, we do NOT know exactly how the climate will ultimately respond to human activity, but we do know that it IS responding, and as such it is better to prepare to mitigate the damage now, rather than later. Frankly, the fact that we don't know exactly what's going to happen should be more worrying, not less.
 
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