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Here is how "I" think it would go down.
First the scales have to tip just alittle more of general public opinion towards stricter gun control laws. Much stricter.
It will start, like it is now with certain "types" of guns. New ones being labled as the latest "killing machine", "weapon of war", "military grade", "child killer", "of no hunting use" or some other buzz word or term that even hasnt been thought up yet.
As those buzz terms spread throught the gun brand and type/style and the demonizing is close to being done. You will see legislation passed based on this as it tugs at the progressives heart strings.
As fewer and fewer conservatives vote and split into different minor parties, killing chances of true conservatives. The progressives in the democratic party will have a free hand to make many federal laws pertaining to guns spread from state to state. They will call it the will of the people.
And because they are winning elections, it kind of will be.
Then comes the actual ban.
Say its a list of "assault weapons", but now fully expanded to include many types and brands of guns.
Not just ARs and AKs and such.
Grandfathering in? Na, not a chance.
My money is it will be a 90 to 120 day grace period to turn them in or have them picked up.
Bounties will be offered after that for anyone who turns in a person that has held on to his.
Coming to "get them", thats another whole can of worms.
Police? Our Military? (illegal by the way), UN troops?
How many of our military or police will do it? That is another debate. I know some that will have no problem doing it, but I know many that will refuse and not do it. May even walk off the job.
Question.
At what point do you think there will be actual blood in the streets in revolt?
Perhaps we should consider a more rational and effective approach to gun control. Consider:
*In 1863 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
*In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.
*In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
*In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
*In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan.
*In 1984 James Hubert a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
*In 1986 Patrick Sherrill a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
*In 1990 James Pough a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
*In 1991 George Hennard a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's cafeteria.
*In 1995 James Daniel Simpson a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
*In 1999 Larry Asbrook a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
*In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
*In 2003 Douglas Williams a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
*In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
*In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
*In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
*In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
*In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 people in a school.
One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not.
Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. No NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservatives are involved.
SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.
If it comes to that I agree, but the antis think that is our wet dream. To kill "fellow Americans", which is no where near the case.what you need are a few people-perhaps "pillars of society" who have a poor end game scenario--a decorated soldier with say early stage ALS or Stage IV pancreatic cancer and not much in the way of family. They resist and are brutally put down but not before taking out a few of the political pimps who pushed the law. That could start the ball rolling and once the politicians start worrying that every time they open a door or get out of a car, some guy a few football fields away might be lining them up with a 30-06 bolt gun or walk up to them and still a glock up their nose, the wet dreams of the gun control pimps might become nightmares for them
Here is how "I" think it would go down.
First the scales have to tip just alittle more of general public opinion towards stricter gun control laws. Much stricter.
It will start, like it is now with certain "types" of guns. New ones being labled as the latest "killing machine", "weapon of war", "military grade", "child killer", "of no hunting use" or some other buzz word or term that even hasnt been thought up yet.
As those buzz terms spread throught the gun brand and type/style and the demonizing is close to being done. You will see legislation passed based on this as it tugs at the progressives heart strings.
As fewer and fewer conservatives vote and split into different minor parties, killing chances of true conservatives. The progressives in the democratic party will have a free hand to make many federal laws pertaining to guns spread from state to state. They will call it the will of the people.
And because they are winning elections, it kind of will be.
Then comes the actual ban.
Say its a list of "assault weapons", but now fully expanded to include many types and brands of guns.
Not just ARs and AKs and such.
Grandfathering in? Na, not a chance.
My money is it will be a 90 to 120 day grace period to turn them in or have them picked up.
Bounties will be offered after that for anyone who turns in a person that has held on to his.
Coming to "get them", thats another whole can of worms.
Police? Our Military? (illegal by the way), UN troops?
How many of our military or police will do it? That is another debate. I know some that will have no problem doing it, but I know many that will refuse and not do it. May even walk off the job.
Question.
At what point do you think there will be actual blood in the streets in revolt?
If it comes to that I agree, but the antis think that is our wet dream. To kill "fellow Americans", which is no where near the case.
It has always amused me who some radicals are so insistent the parts of the Constitution they like are sacred but the rest, like say the 14th A, are to be ignored especially when resorting to blow hard rhetoric.
Doing my best radical right whiner voice- "Only 'Mericans who think just like me are REAL 'Mericans!"
Wadda Country.... another round for the ranters!!!! :2wave:
can someone explain what the purpose of this moronic post above is? is it another passive aggressive attack on gun rights or is it just another inane attack on people who don't think socialism is a good idea?
Perhaps we should consider a more rational and effective approach to gun control. Consider:
*In 1863 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
*In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.
*In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
*In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
*In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan.
*In 1984 James Hubert a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
*In 1986 Patrick Sherrill a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
*In 1990 James Pough a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
*In 1991 George Hennard a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's cafeteria.
*In 1995 James Daniel Simpson a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
*In 1999 Larry Asbrook a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
*In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
*In 2003 Douglas Williams a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
*In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
*In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
*In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
*In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
*In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 people in a school.
One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not.
Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. No NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservatives are involved.
SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.
I thought there was something to this thread, turns out its a circle jerk about how we won't let a far fetched and completely hypothetical situation ever happen and if it did happen what we'd do about it.
Sadly, many Americans would be fine with that.Here's a suggestion for model legislation.
General Retrieval And Ban
An act to introduce reasonable gun control. This act may be cited as the GRAB Act.
Section 1 - Responsibility
1. Responsibility for enforcing the General Retrieval and Ban shall be vested in the National Firearms Retrieval Service. NFRS shall be empowered to use whatever means generally are available to law enforcement agencies.
2. The General Retrieval and Ban permits retrieval and banning of firearms without the requirement they be covered specifically by legislation. Firearms covered by GRAB shall be included at the discretion the Director of the National Firearms Retrieval Service who shall be required to hold hearings and consult with interested parties before adding any firearm to the Schedule of Banned Firearms. The President of the United States shall approve implementation of Retrieval for any firearm added to the Schedule of Banned Firearms.
Section 2 - Process
1. Retrieval: Within 30 days of implementation, scheduled firearms in private possession shall be delivered to a law enforcement agency.
2. Prosecution: Persons found to be in possession of a scheduled firearm after the expiration of the 30 day Retrieval period will be guilty of a Class A felony and shall be prosecuted.
3. Reeducation: Convicted offenders found to be in possession of a scheduled firearm, shall be transported to a reeducation camp for instruction in the community's expectations.
4. Transistion: Persons found to be in possession of a scheduled firearm after reeducation shall be transitioned to a harmless condition.
Section 3 - Financing.
1. Financing for GRAB and related agencies and their operations shall be provided by taxes on firearms and operations.
2. Taxes on firearms shall include but not necessarily be limited to an excise tax and an annual property tax.
3. Taxes on ammunition shall include an excise tax.
4. Any tax levied by GRAB shall not preclude any tax levied by a state or local jurisdiction.
Section 4. - Judicial Review and Severability
1. The GRAB shall not be subject to judicial review.
2. Should any part of the GRAB be determined to be unlawful or in conflict with another law, the discrepancy shall not affect any other part of GRAB.
Section 5. - Registry
1. The Director of the National Firearms Retrieval Service shall maintain a registry of all firearms within the national borders.
2. The Director shall record all pertinent information related to each firearm. The information recorded shall included but not necessarily be limited to the serial number of the firearm, the description of the firearm, name and address of the possessor and owner if different. The Director is empowered to collect any other information which may be pertinent to retrieving the firearm should it be added to the Schedule of Banned Firearms.
McViegh voted Libertarian, corresponded regularly with a New York democrat representative, and what does any of that mean? Would you like to use McVeigh as the springboard for your campaign to ban fertilizer? U Hauls?Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people including 19 children and wounding countless more... a registered Republican.
He almost evens out hte death toll and that is just one Republican all by himself... think I should list some more?
When the word "confiscation" actually comes out of our elected officials mouths, there is more to it. You may wish to ignore it, thats your right. But dont think its that far fetched.
May not happen today or tomorrow, but the right set of circumstances and it can happen.
Perhaps we should consider a more rational and effective approach to gun control. Consider:
*In 1863 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
*In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.
*In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
*In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
*In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan.
*In 1984 James Hubert a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
*In 1986 Patrick Sherrill a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
*In 1990 James Pough a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
*In 1991 George Hennard a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 23 people in a Luby's cafeteria.
*In 1995 James Daniel Simpson a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
*In 1999 Larry Asbrook a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
*In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
*In 2003 Douglas Williams a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
*In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
*In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
*In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
*In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
*In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 people in a school.
One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not.
Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns. No NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservatives are involved.
SOLUTION: It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.
Sadly, many Americans would be fine with that.
Fortunatly many more would fight it.
When we look at demographics we see that a huge majority of murders with firearms are by young black men. And yet, if I suggest we not sell firearms to black men people cry racist. Well, it's demographics. Statistics don't have feelings.
The new law in California goes beyond banning - to making it a felony offense to not report yourself to the government to turn in your now-banned firearms. It is not merely having the banned firearms, but also failing to turn yourself in that is a felony.
Literally, in California, exercising your "right against self incrimination" is a felony offense. That concept of law is unique to this anti-gun law.
Timothy McVeigh killed 168 people including 19 children and wounding countless more... a registered Republican.
He almost evens out hte death toll and that is just one Republican all by himself... think I should list some more?
The new law in California goes beyond banning - to making it a felony offense to not report yourself to the government to turn in your now-banned firearms. It is not merely having the banned firearms, but also failing to turn yourself in that is a felony.
Literally, in California, exercising your "right against self incrimination" is a felony offense. That concept of law is unique to this anti-gun law.
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