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Stop talking and start doing!!!!!!


Only one small problem; try getting live ordnance for them.
 
DebateChallenge said:
The purpose of having police is to enforce the law and the purpose of having the military is to protect against foreign invaders.
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If they are just one armed gang among many other equally well armed civilian ones, how are they going to enforce anything? It just becomes a war of a bunch of well-armed gangs trying to impose their freedom on everyone else. The whole phrase “law enforcement” becomes a joke.
 
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RF667799 said:
Army, National Guard, Reserves. I would include the Navy and their affiliates as well as the Marines and Air Force, though they often don't like to be called soldiers. But they're almost all citizens.
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Sure- well regulated, screened, and accountable citizens. Those not obeying orders could be court martialed. The idea that citizen soldiers were there to wage insurrection on the federal government anytime any of them felt like it is a dangerous NRA myth created to sell their merchandise.

 
You seem to forget that my gun is concealed. I have exactly the same ability to beg for mercy and or play the odds as you do. Sadly that's all you have.

Now what would you do if you recognize that someone is about to rob you well enough in advance that you could easily access your firearm and there simply was no way to remove yourself in time?

A customer taking my cwp class told us his story. He pulled into the Walgreens parking lot. He had been arguing with his wife so not in his normal routine. He gets out of the car and heads toward the store entrance without quickly scanning the lot, his normal procedure. As he gets 15ft from the car he finally looks up and he makes eye contact with a "shady looking dude". In his own words he basically said he knew the guy was going to do something. Thinking very fast he stopped, announced slightly louder than normal that he had forgotten his money in the car, and began walking back to the car. He had a gun in the car BTW. As he made a few steps back toward his car the badguy pistol whipped him knocking him down. He then robbed him of his heavy cuban link chain and bracelet worth 5 or 6 grand back then.

Now personally I would have scanned the lot before getting out my vehicle. I see the thug and leave OR enter from a different angle OR phone police and wait. I only stay if my wife or kids meds are inside. Not worth risking anything for a 2 liter of diet coke that costs twice as much as Walmart. IF I had made the same error as my customer and was out in no man's land, I would begin to access my defensive firearm while turning and heading back. At the same time I am watching the thug in my peripheral vision. If he advances and moves to grab for a gun I turn and defend myself. If he advances empty handed I turn while using my body to hide the firearm that is now in my hand. I politely ask him to leave me be. The rest depends on him.

You likely lie sitting in a pool of your own blood with a split wig stripped of your gold. Or you lie dead.

I likely prevent the assault and keep my gold and my wig intact. There is a slight chance that it goes to gunplay and I lose. This risk is preferable to me over dying defenseless and at the thugs mercy. Which is the equally unlikely end for your version.
 

Who swear an oath to the Constitution.
 
Newsflash, conservatives don't play with tide pods, they just use them what they're supposed to be used for, cleaning clothes.
 
Its called having checks and balances. If military and law enforcement held a monopoly on weapons that would be an imbalance of power, we don't want that in the USA as we believe in checks and balances.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Its called having checks and balances. If military and law enforcement held a monopoly on weapons that would be an imbalance of power, we don't want that in the USA as we believe in checks and balances.
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So you want armed gangs acting as a check and balance on law enforcement?

"Enforcement", by definition, means one side has more force than the other to do the enforcing. How do you see law enforcement working if they are equally matched by those they are trying to enforce the law on?
 
ataraxia said:
So you want armed gangs acting as a check and balance on law enforcement?
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Considering that law enforcement is a gang itself, yes.
ataraxia said:
"Enforcement", by definition, means one side has more force than the other to do the enforcing. How do you see law enforcement working if they are equally matched by those they are trying to enforce the law on?
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Because its those who law enforcement is doing the enforcement on (the common citizen) who has the final say in what the laws are. Should law enforcement become corrupt and overstep its bounds the common citizens can revolt, as a final check and balance.

To give law enforcement greater force then the common citizen would mean a dictatorship.
 
The only filth here is from those lacking the intellectual foundations to present a proper rebuttal. Common sense should tell you that!
 
noonereal said:
No reason to get hysterical.
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Classic lol! Classic liberal tactic.....let me expose it again.

You didn't rebut a single point I made, not one. You can't because it's to easy for me to expose your ignorance if you did. So you ignore it. But you are a liberal and allowing the truth to damage your plot, your agenda, is just to much to bear. You have to do something to fix this problem. So you call me hysterical in an attempt to diminish me and thus diminish my truthful and spot on post.

FAIL!!!!!
 
This is why it isn't fun playing sometimes. At least challenge me FFS.

Which speed limit signs or traffic lights can stop someone from speeding or running a red light? Damn sure doesn't stop me daily. Those things only affect the law abiding.......getting Deja vu yet?

We have already regulated guns to the point that an ineligible person is violating laws simply by having one. The school shooters violated several gun laws before firing the first shot. Laws just can't stop law breakers. *****THIS DOESN'T MEAN WE DONT WANT GUN LAWS******



The willful violation of gun laws happens with each and every misuse. IT IS MORONIC TO BELIEVE THAT MORE LAWS WILL STOP IT!
 
Toggle Almendro said:
That's because progressives keep preventing people from carrying guns in public. Get rid of progressives and all sorts of lives will start being saved.
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You name me a major problem in this country and the progressives are behind it. Economy, gas prices, illegal immigration, out of control crime, and more.
 

Repeating firearms not dreamed of by our founders lol?

“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
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This is what Ben Franklin thinks about people like you.
 
What else has advanced? Vests and medical treatments! Lots shot and few die.
 
Excellent post but don't confuse the leftists with those pesky facts.

How about the internets advancements including Facebook and twitter.
 

Honest, I don't even want to hear any more "telephone" stories.


You don't even understand what I mean about how one carries themselves and reacts being every

More hysteria.
Like I said, I go with the numbers, you go with emotion.
This is the bottom line
 
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