Stock Market Numbers

[code1211]

Do you guys have any arguments besides astrology and wishcasting to “prove’ how much the country is thisclose to giving Trump another 4 years?

Not even one.

Just the polling as it leads up to another election and what I FEEL might be coming.

Before the last election, I was pretty much 100% certain that Hillary was going to win and that our country was dropping into the toilet.

Now the Biden-Bernie-Squad Supporters are burning and looting and their willing enablers in City Halls around the country are egging them on.

I suppose we'll see if the good folks of our cities hate Trump enough to let the burning-looting-assault-murders to continue or not.

What will folks vote for and against? I don't know. The Democrat-Socialists seem to FEEL that distorting the idea of Systemic Racism will inflame the passions of their low information voters.

Will the burned out cities inspire support for those that oppose the lawless violence or will the propagandists convince enough brain dead dupes that the "systemic racism" problems they have fabricated are real?

We'll find out on election day.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Not even one.

Just the polling as it leads up to another election and what I FEEL might be coming.

Before the last election, I was pretty much 100% certain that Hillary was going to win and that our country was dropping into the toilet.

Now the Biden-Bernie-Squad Supporters are burning and looting and their willing enablers in City Halls around the country are egging them on.

I suppose we'll see if the good folks of our cities hate Trump enough to let this continue or not.

What will folks vote for and against? I don't know. The Democrat-Socialists seem to FEEL that distorting the idea of Systemic Racism will inflame the passions of their low information voters.

Will the burned out cities inspire support for those that oppose the lawless violence or will the propagandists convince enough brain dead dupes that the "systemic racism" problems they have fabricated are real?

We'll find out on election day.

He’s going to lose in a landslide. And the he’s just gonna go pout at mar a lago and finish stealing hand over fist.

That’s it. That’s what the great white hope is gonna do when he loses.


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[code1211]

It is the fed and monetary policy

I'm not sure.

Real estate is an option for investors now. Not in the inner cities. That's like burning your cash. Residential housing is up in most parts of the country.

The economy was shut down. Now it's re-opening, but the Democrat Governors are trying to keep it shut down as long as they can do it.

Can we guess why?

Anyway, this is only one dynamic that will affect the election. It's looking pretty likely that an effective vaccine will be available in October. Surprise!

 

[rickc]

The stock market is being propped up by fed policy. The fed has assured investors that they will do everything in their power to make sure that the stock market doesn't fail.

For sure their is a.disconnet between the real economy and the stock market. It has been that.way for some.time

 

[code1211]

The stock market is absolutely related to the economy. It tells us how well the listed companies are doing. If investors are confident, then they will buy equities. Even if the economy is in a downturn, the stock market indicates faith in the capacity of the economy to recover.

I admit, in recent years (mostly 2008 onward), the U.S. stock market patterns have not been based on fundamentals, i.e. financial reports, revenues, actual growth potential, etc. A lot of it has been based on hot air. I think a large part of this has to do with accessibility. You used to need a stock broker to participate and now it's all online, giving access to the average joe. The result is that there is less expertise playing the market, so the market largely no longer represents people who did proper research before buying stocks.

Government stimulus has created a bubble of sorts, by propelling us into the next cycle of bunk investing. It causes prices to rise which lets people profit, and then when the market collapses those profiteers buy up everything at cheap prices again. This has been the cycle since 2008. Rinse, lather, repeat. I would argue that the cycles are "designed" to transfer massive amounts of wealth to the 1%, but it lures the general public to participate based on faith -- and really, that's all the economy rests upon at the end of the day, is faith.

Which is why, despite the obvious flaws, I would not conclude that the stock market is totally disconnected from reality, the reason being that it still shows people's willingness to cast their lot, and right now the numbers are pretty good. For now, we are okay. My main concern is how the Fed is going to deal with its massive debt burden. That's an incoming train wreck.

Everything you said seems to be right on target.

I remember thinking to myself in March this year, as I have thought many times previously, that "NOW" would be a great time to buy stocks if you had the cash laying around to do it.

The, I thought, wait a minute! I HAVE the cash laying around to do it.

I bought stocks and, while I didn't hit the absolute rock bottom of the stocks I bought, there was a lot of runway left for them to rise.

At best, Stock markets are a measure of sentiment held by the folks putting out their hard earned cash.

Still, putting their money where their mouths are is a pretty solid measure.

 

[The AntiDonald]

I'm not sure.

Real estate is an option for investors now. Not in the inner cities. That's like burning your cash. Residential housing is up in most parts of the country.

The economy was shut down. Now it's re-opening, but the Democrat Governors are trying to keep it shut down as long as they can do it.

Can we guess why?

Anyway, this is only one dynamic that will affect the election. It's looking pretty likely that an effective vaccine will be available in October. Surprise!

The real scientists say maybe next spring or summer. Unless Trump wrongly fast tracts such an important vaccine, your October surprise is nothing but fantasy. The overwhelming majority won't go near an untested vaccine. It's all political. Trump will push stuff to get elected even if it's dangerous or unproven.

 

[PNW Guy]

I'm not sure.

Real estate is an option for investors now. Not in the inner cities. That's like burning your cash. Residential housing is up in most parts of the country.

The economy was shut down. Now it's re-opening, but the Democrat Governors are trying to keep it shut down as long as they can do it.

Can we guess why?

Anyway, this is only one dynamic that will affect the election. It's looking pretty likely that an effective vaccine will be available in October. Surprise!

Seems legit.... :lamo

 

[code1211]

All I know is I use to hear all the time before the Great recession" on how well the stock market was doing

Sigh

The Stock Markets seem to breath.

There are Bull runs up and Bear runs down. Also, days up and days down and even hours within days.

When the president was elected and his communication style was still novel, every Tweet he typed and word he spoke caused the markets to rocket up or crash down.

Not so much anymore. Now the bombast is ignored and the real nuggets are retained.

He is being heard for what HE is saying not for what the Media says he is saying. This will cause great concern among the Democrat-Socialists and their mouthpiece propagandists in the media.

If it's happening in the minds on the stock market investors, can the thinking members of the public be far behind?

Also, before the Great Recession, there was talk of how great the housing market was and how people who could never have afforded houses before were now getting loans.

It was that reality and that talk of it that was the real cause of the Great Recession.

 

[code1211]

I'm sure MAGA folks will enjoy this fine talking point in line at the food bank or at their Oxy connect's house; inspiring! :lamo

I'm sure you think you delivered a real zinger in your post.

 

[PNW Guy]

I'm sure you think you delivered a real zinger in your post.

You REALLY believe Trump cares about you don't you?:lamo

 

[code1211]

I'm sure MAGA folks will also greatly appreciate having something positive like this to discuss at the homeless shelter after their evictions; #winning #MAGA #EVICTEDbutRECORDmarket! :elephantf:stooges

Here's a good look at Baltimore that has been voting Democrat for the last 50 years.

The good folks of Baltimore might BE wearing MAGA hats this year.

We'll see.

33 Baltimore Ghetto Photos That Reveal An Abandoned Wasteland

 

[code1211]

Trumps “accomplishments”

Did you know that O'l Joe Biden capped the spread of the Swine Flu at 60 million cases because he ordered the testing to be stopped?

60 million cases under the enlightened guidance of Biden and his boss, the Big 0, as they worked to avoid doing anything on that illness.

How many Americans cases are counted so far in the Chinese Flu?

 

[code1211]

Why do you hate Trump and America? :roll:

You're supposed to cheerlead! Stop[ being un-'murican!

Such a disappointing post.

 

[BlueTex]

Did you know that O'l Joe Biden capped the spread of the Swine Flu at 60 million cases because he ordered the testing to be stopped?

60 million cases under the enlightened guidance of Biden and his boss, the Big 0, as they worked to avoid doing anything on that illness.

How many Americans cases are counted so far in the Chinese Flu?

How many died from Swine Flu? Look, there is no way to spin this... it is, what it is... We will be over 200,000 on Nov 3rd...

 

[code1211]

That's so comforting to the millions of newly unemployed and soon to be homeless. Absolutely inspirational; they'd be fools not to skip a meal if need be to go vote for Trump, so inspirational are your words!

Sorry I was moved to weep with tears of joy at the magnificence and benevolence of Trump's artifically propped up market and how much it means to ordinary every day 'muricans....

When the victims of the Trump depression are hungry, they can eat newsprint of the market gains the great orange messiah has created! I mean they have nobody but themselves to blame for not having invested in the market right?:lamo

With as much respect I can muster for your post that you based on outlandish ignorance and hate, the President did not close anything.

The governors of each state did the actual closing or allowed the actual continuance of business, government and education.

Do any Democrat-Socialists have any real world awareness at all?

 

[PNW Guy]

With as much respect I can muster for your post that you based on outlandish ignorance and hate, the President did not close anything.

The governors of each state did the actual closing or allowed the actual continuance of business, government and education.

Do any Democrat-Socialists have any real world awareness at all?

Trump's 'murica 180K deahts and counting

China not yet 5K

#winning!:doh

 

[PNW Guy]

How many died from Swine Flu? Look, there is no way to spin this... it is, what it is... We will be over 200,000 on Nov 3rd...

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But it was mostly blue states, those aren't like actual people....

Damn are you libruls that dumb? :lamo

 

[code1211]

He’s going to lose in a landslide. And the he’s just gonna go pout at mar a lago and finish stealing hand over fist.

That’s it. That’s what the great white hope is gonna do when he loses.


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I'm looking forward to election day/night/week/month/quarter. At some point, a winner will be determined. I understand that Biden has hired about 600 lawyers to sue in every state in the union to challenge the results.

With about a 25% error factor in the little elections around the country lately due to the "voting irregularities" cropping up with the mail in ballots, that seems like a pretty good tactic.

It seems pretty likely that the House of Representatives will be choosing our new President who will need to quell the civil war that results.

 

[PNW Guy]

Such a disappointing post.

Such a failed thread!:lamo

 

[code1211]

The stock market is being propped up by fed policy. The fed has assured investors that they will do everything in their power to make sure that the stock market doesn't fail.

For sure their is a.disconnet between the real economy and the stock market. It has been that.way for some.time

The Fed policies today are very similar to the Fed policies in the first term under Obama.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

I'm looking forward to election day/night/week/month/quarter. At some point, a winner will be determined. I understand that Biden has hired about 600 lawyers to sue in every state in the union to challenge the results.

With about a 25% error factor in the little elections around the country lately due to the "voting irregularities" cropping up with the mail in ballots, that seems like a pretty good tactic.

It seems pretty likely that the House of Representatives will be choosing our new President who will need to quell the civil war that results.

I don’t agree. Trump is going to lose by a big margin. He will declare it rigged. He will then tell us he is gonna “step down for the good of the country anyway.” He’s been a loser his whole life and that trajectory isn’t changing at 75.

What civil war? From the right wing softboys who sat and watched as government troops grabbed citizens off the street, their entire argument for having guns.


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[code1211]

The real scientists say maybe next spring or summer. Unless Trump wrongly fast tracts such an important vaccine, your October surprise is nothing but fantasy. The overwhelming majority won't go near an untested vaccine. It's all political. Trump will push stuff to get elected even if it's dangerous or unproven.

With respect, we are further along right now than anyone thought we'd be.

We are at the point right now that we should have reached in about 2023. "Operation Warp Speed" is designed to eliminate the red tape blocking progress and the financial risk incurred by drug developers to do the research.

There are at least two major drug companies racing through Phase 3 testing right now and there are are 100 million doses of the new Phase 3 vaccine ready to distribute from each.

Step 3: Clinical Research | FDA

 

[MTAtech]

It may be only my imagination, but I have FELT in the past that when the opponents of the President are scoring effective, direct hits in their relentless and irrational attacks, it hurts the Stock Market numbers.

On the last day of the Democrat-Socialist Convention amid the ongoing rioting, violence and burning conducted by "the mostly peaceful protesters", the NASDAQ and S&P averages both closed at record highs.

In the mean time, the polling numbers for the President improved during the dour and depressing Democrat-Socialist Convention/Telethon. Wait! Wut?

This morning, both the NASDAQ and the S&P indexes are even higher in the futures estimates. So is the DJIA.

DJIA has not yet posted another all time record high close following the most recent all time record close high in February. DJIA seems to be also rising with a fairly consistently.

The next DJIA Record High Close will probably occur in September. New, Effective Therapies and the Covid Vaccine will almost undoubtedly be issued and distributed by mid-October.

The messages of doom, gloom, despair and blame from the Democrat-Socialists seem to be writing an epitaph for their current political aspirations. This election is looking like a landslide of historic proportion.

The President and the American People should send the Democrat-Socialists' strategists a thank you note.

First, Democrats aren't socialists and repeating this lie will never make it true.
Second, the stock market isn't the economy. We have tens of millions out of work and Congress still hasn't renewed a rescue plan.
Third, the stock market indices gains are centered around a hand-full of gigantic companies, like Google, Apple, Amazon, etc. Most stocks are not participating in these gains.
Fourth, most Americans are not participating in these gains, since most people don't own stocks or hold sizable amounts of stocks.
Fifth, if you think a Covid-19 vaccine will be ready for injection in mid-October, I wonder what you are injecting into your arm. You are wishful thinking because you think a vaccine will insulate Trump from awful leadership and turn the election his way. In an interview, Fauci, who has also been involved with White House’s “Operation Warp Speed” vaccine program, said it may take until well into 2021 for vaccines to reach the much of the general public.
Meanwhile, 180,000 preventable American deaths are on the head of this so-called leader.

 

[code1211]

Seems legit.... :lamo

Once again, I have no idea what seems logical in your mind.

 

[code1211]

You REALLY believe Trump cares about you don't you?:lamo

No. I don't.

I think he cares about the American Society and how to create the best options for people within the society to prosper.