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I stumbled across this list of information and a list of names of Clinton associates and/or friends that have "mysteriously died", most of "suicide". I find it pretty sad that this list is what it takes to cover up your mistakes. These 47 people just add on to the list of reasons that I will never vote for this woman.... besides the fact that she's a b*tch in general... and a democrat.



Clinton Associates

Hillary takes it in 08, any bets on what that body count will be?

Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many
"friends"of the Clintons.

1-James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key
witness
in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at
a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she
was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported
to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull
resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days
later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died
on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a
"Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who
visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was
found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was
ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if
she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in
June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by
jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently,
in the middle of his investigation.( I read a wonderful book about this incident by an investigative reporter...scary stuff! Marge)

18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport
with
Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15,1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron
Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small
plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's
advisory council, personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and
brother.

23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no
accident. (all tied in with the death of those two boys killed on the
railroad track mj)

24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill
Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,1994 when his plane exploded.

27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due
to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boyshad
been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died
before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. BILL CLINTON was Govenor and knew about this, and evidence of strong possiblity that he covered for those involved)

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988.

30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".

34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
pickup truck in June 1990.

35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of
what happens to friends of the Clinton's!
 
Wait, I'm sorry. Are you actually accusing Hillary Clinton of mass murder? I can't decide if it's more or less funny because you're serious.
 
Oh, and a mod note. You're going to need to source that list prontinto.
 
I am NOT pinning these deaths on Hillary Clinton personally.

They were Clinton associates. The linkage to the Clinton family was surprising to me and I thought I would share. It all seems very convenient, that's all.

I dont have the site that I pulled this list from but there are other sites that have accumulated larger lists and more extensive explanations though. Here are two.

Clinton Casualties
THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT
 
I am NOT pinning these deaths on Hillary Clinton personally.

They were Clinton associates. The linkage to the Clinton family was surprising to me and I thought I would share. It all seems very convenient, that's all.

I dont have the site that I pulled this list from but there are other sites that have accumulated larger lists and more extensive explanations though. Here are two.

Clinton Casualties
THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT

So who do you think was the mastermind behind this mass murder? Bill? Chelsea?! :shock:


Thanks for the link.
 
I just provided the list of info and other sources. I'm not going to post my personal assumptions. Sorry. You can derive whatever you want from this list, that's up to you.
 
I just provided the list of info and other sources. I'm not going to post my personal assumptions. Sorry. You can derive whatever you want from this list, that's up to you.

You are aware this is a debate site, right? What's the point of being here if you don't post your personal assumptions?
 
I realize that but how can I really make a semi-educated assumption on this? I will sit here and tell you that (obviously) I think these deaths are related to the Clintons most likely by their authorization to cover up information. That is my own personal belief.
 
I'm not sure what to make of the list but I DO believe that the Clinton's have covered up more than we know about.
 
I stumbled across this list of information and a list of names of Clinton associates and/or friends that have "mysteriously died", most of "suicide". ...Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many
"friends"of the Clintons.....

Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of
what happens to friends of the Clinton's!


"We shouldn't have to tell anyone not to believe this claptrap, but we will anyway."

Urban Legends Reference Pages: The Clinton Body Count
 
Moderator's Warning:
Moved to a more appropriate forum
 
Ahh, so this is more appropriate. Conspiracy.

Now, passing this off as an "Urban Legend".... and what gives your site any more relevance than this list?

And for anyone who is getting their first impressions of me from this list, you're probably getting the wrong idea. While I have a VERY strong opposition to the Clintons, I only posted this list because I thought it was interesting, that's all. I really wasn't looking to debate my political standpoints because of it.
 
Ahh, so this is more appropriate. Conspiracy.

Now, passing this off as an "Urban Legend".... and what gives your site any more relevance than this list?

Here's some info to help you sort out the fakes, and just for fun, why don't you google "Bush Body Count"?

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Is there contact information other than an e-mail address? Is there documentation for factual statements, assertions and second-hand information? Are there links to other viewpoints, if applicable?

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Wait, I'm sorry. Are you actually accusing Hillary Clinton of mass murder? I can't decide if it's more or less funny because you're serious.

.... :2rofll:
 
Ahh, so this is more appropriate. Conspiracy.

Now, passing this off as an "Urban Legend".... and what gives your site any more relevance than this list?

Snopes is a well-respected source. A similar site, Urban Legends, calls the "Clinton body count" a "paranoia-laden relic of the Clinton-hating '90s":


Comments: The "Clinton Body Count," a paranoia-laden relic of the Clinton-hating '90s, has been resurrected in 2007 to coincide with Hillary Clinton's bid for the presidency. The widely-circulated text insinuates that several dozen "friends" of the Clintons, a few of whom may have possessed incriminating information on the former First Couple, died under "mysterious" circumstances -- i.e., were secretly done away with. In more ways than one, it is reminiscent of a similarly paranoid conspiracy theory floated during the Bush-hating '00s, namely the notion that the current administration actually conceived and orchestrated the 9/11 terror attacks.

Both theories rest on absurd presuppositions:
That a U.S. president could order the callous, illegal murders of dozens (or, in Bush's case, thousands) of citizens without being prosecuted, impeached, or even so much as accused of the crime by members of Congress -- not even his staunchest political opponents.

That a U.S. president could flawlessly carry out such earth-shattering atrocities while demonstrating utter fallibility (if not gross ineptitude) in the face of other, more mundane challenges (e.g., witness Clinton's inability to squelch accusations of sexual improprieties, resulting in calls for his impeachment).
Why is it, we must also ask, that special prosecutor Kenneth Starr, who spent years and millions of taxpayer dollars attempting to dig up dirt of any kind on the Clintons, never handed down a single indictment pertaining to these alleged murders? The answer is plain: because not one of the accusations had an ounce of merit.

The Clinton Body Count - Netlore Archive
 
This thread is a good sign of just how scared to death the great right wing conspiracy is about Clinton.
 
Nonetheless, Clinton was a very shady character, so he probably had a role in some deaths.

If you look at his pardons, you will noticed he pardoned mostly embezzlers, money launderers, and drug dealers, as president (President Clinton's Pardons, January 2001) and probably as governor, too. He also had connections with organized crime (http://www.worldnewsstand.net/gov/clinton.htm).

He was also unusually friendly to Chinese interests, but that is another story (http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/2/21/181251.shtml).
 
Nonetheless, Clinton was a very shady character, so he probably had a role in some deaths...If you look at his pardons, you will noticed he pardoned mostly embezzlers, money launderers, and drug dealers, as president...he also had connections with organized crime...he was also unusually friendly to Chinese interests, but that is another story




The Bush pardons...include a Watergate felon, a Cuban exile terrorist and a Pakistani heroin dealer. The truth -- as anyone who glances back into the history of the first Bush administration can quickly learn -- is that Clinton hasn't done anything that his predecessor didn't do first and, in some cases, worse.
Salon.com News | The Bush pardons



The separation of the Bush political machine from organized crime is often like the thin layer of rock between a seemingly ordinary surface and volcanic activity rumbling below...George H.W. Bush’s long record of unsavory associations, including with a Nicaraguan contra network permeated by cocaine traffickers, Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s multi-million-dollar money-laundering operations, and anti-communist Cuban extremists tied to acts of international terrorism
Consortiumnews.com


Chinese Espionage Was a Reagan-Bush Scandal
The Consortium
 
Jerry Parks is/was my father. My father was NOT murdered because of Clinton. My father's widow is the reason my father is dead. Not only is my father dead, she married a Dr. David Millstein and he was also murdered on Father's Day of 2006.

Yahoo! 360° - Jerri Denise's Profile
 
Jerry Parks is/was my father. My father was NOT murdered because of Clinton. My father's widow is the reason my father is dead. Not only is my father dead, she married a Dr. David Millstein and he was also murdered on Father's Day of 2006.

Yahoo! 360° - Jerri Denise's Profile

Thank you for your input, Jerri.
Most of us here are aware that the "Body Count List" is complete and utter malarkey.
Please accept my sincere condolences for the loss of your father.
 
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

Thank you for your input, Jerri.
Most of us here are aware that the "Body Count List" is complete and utter malarkey.
Please accept my sincere condolences for the loss of your father.

Thank you for your condolences. I am glad that most people know this list is utter malarkey. Once again, thank you.
 
I stumbled across this list of information and a list of names of Clinton associates and/or friends that have "mysteriously died", most of "suicide". I find it pretty sad that this list is what it takes to cover up your mistakes. These 47 people just add on to the list of reasons that I will never vote for this woman.... besides the fact that she's a b*tch in general... and a democrat.



Clinton Associates

Hillary takes it in 08, any bets on what that body count will be?

Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many
"friends"of the Clintons.
1-James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key
witness
in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at
a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she
was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported
to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull
resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with
prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days
later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the
woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died
on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little
Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a
"Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who
visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was
found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was
ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if
she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.
Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in
June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by
jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was
Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently,
in the middle of his investigation.( I read a wonderful book about this incident by an investigative reporter...scary stuff! Marge)

18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport
with
Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15,1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron
Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small
plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's
advisory council, personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and
brother.

23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no
accident. (all tied in with the death of those two boys killed on the
railroad track mj)

24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill
Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,1994 when his plane exploded.

27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due
to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boyshad
been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died
before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury. BILL CLINTON was Govenor and knew about this, and evidence of strong possiblity that he covered for those involved)

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988.

30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".

34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
pickup truck in June 1990.

35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of
what happens to friends of the Clinton's!

We need to find out who's behind these killings...and why they keep missing Hillary??? :twisted:
 
"We shouldn't have to tell anyone not to believe this claptrap, but we will anyway."

Urban Legends Reference Pages: The Clinton Body Count

Well it is a fact that Mcdougal died right before he was going to testify against Clinton in the White Water case and the Vince Foster case stinks to high heaven, documents were removed from his office and gun shot residue found on his hands show that he was holding the gun in a defensive posture as if trying to push it away this all went down at the same time as the travelgate scandal.
 
Well it is a fact that Mcdougal died right before he was going to testify against Clinton in the White Water case and the Vince Foster case stinks to high heaven, documents were removed from his office and gun shot residue found on his hands show that he was holding the gun in a defensive posture as if trying to push it away this all went down at the same time as the travelgate scandal.

It seems important to point out that any of these deaths could have been caused by persons with no connections to the Clinton's.

It also seems important to point out that those same persons, completely unrelated to the Clinton's, could still have sympathized with them, and might have killed some of the previously mentioned persons to help them.

Which does nothing whatsoever to prove that Hillary Clinton had these people killed for whatever nefarious reasons. Not that anyone believed she did in the first place. :roll:

Nevertheless, my opinion of politicians in general is low enough (Read: basement of hell, or below the 9th level, etc.) that I believe there to be a possibility that some of this might be true.
 
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