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Sterling v Noble shootings

Lutherf

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I want to post both of these videos so they're easier to compare. In both incidents the cops were responding to a complaint about an armed suspect.

Everyone has seen the Alton Sterling incident tons of times



The police video from the Dylan Noble incident near Fresno was just released but, based on major media coverage, I have to imagine that less people know about this one



I both cases, as I said, the cops were responding to an armed suspect complaint. In both cases the suspect resisted the cops instructions. In both cases the suspect ended up getting shot and killed.

What is different is that in the Sterling incident the cops followed their initial verbal commands with a taser and then grappling. Even after a gun was identified on the suspect they still attempted manual control before shooting.

In the Dylan Noble incident the suspect was non-compliant with verbal commands and did make a couple of moves that indicated a threat but no less than lethal force was attempted and no physical force was attempted before the suspect was shot. Noble was shot twice even after he was down.

Both shootings are likely going to be ruled to be within procedure and justified.

I just wanted to post these to show that, contrary to popular perception, cops DO treat suspects relatively equal and do not necessarily play favorites when it comes to race.
 

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I want to post both of these videos so they're easier to compare. In both incidents the cops were responding to a complaint about an armed suspect.

Everyone has seen the Alton Sterling incident tons of times



The police video from the Dylan Noble incident near Fresno was just released but, based on major media coverage, I have to imagine that less people know about this one



I both cases, as I said, the cops were responding to an armed suspect complaint. In both cases the suspect resisted the cops instructions. In both cases the suspect ended up getting shot and killed.

What is different is that in the Sterling incident the cops followed their initial verbal commands with a taser and then grappling. Even after a gun was identified on the suspect they still attempted manual control before shooting.

In the Dylan Noble incident the suspect was non-compliant with verbal commands and did make a couple of moves that indicated a threat but no less than lethal force was attempted and no physical force was attempted before the suspect was shot. Noble was shot twice even after he was down.

Both shootings are likely going to be ruled to be within procedure and justified.

I just wanted to post these to show that, contrary to popular perception, cops DO treat suspects relatively equal and do not necessarily play favorites when it comes to race.


Thank you ....and that is normally the case.

Certain elements of society like to make a bigger deal out of something than it is and the MSM is quick to pile on.
 

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I thought the Noble shooting was justified. I would have shot the guy.

At least while he was standing. Shooting the guy while he's down because he's non compliant seems completely unjustifiable. How much control can he have over his body at that point? How can a guy in pain possibly be expected to comply? As well the way he fell - head towards to officer - he offered no realistic threat to them.

(As well he didn't at all match the description of the person they were looking for so I have to wonder about the initial stop but that's another story)

Edit: another question. Two cops. Why was one armed with a shotgun and not a taser? This situation seems tailor made for tasing.
 
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