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Most political ideologies have their stereotypes.

Republicans are the racist, flag waving, Bible thumping hicks or greedy, Wall Street loving, SUV driving fat cats.

Democrats are the tax raising, enemy appeasing, gun fearing, bleeding heart wussies.

Greens are the tree hugging, cheesy car driving, dope toking hippies.

Socialists and Communists are the Godless, scatterbrained, history ignoring nutjobs.

So I ask, what are libertarians? Are we so superior and ideologically flawless that no negative stereotype can portray us? :2wave:
 
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Selfish, short-sighted, unsympathetic bastards with a poor understanding of society and economics? :prof
 

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Engimo said:
Selfish, short-sighted, unsympathetic bastards with a poor understanding of society and economics? :prof
You forgot to include "drooling lackeys of Ayn Rand".
 

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The Real McCoy said:
Most political ideologies have their stereotypes.

Republicans are the racist, flag waving, Bible thumping hicks or greedy, Wall Street loving, SUV driving fat cats.

Democrats are the tax raising, enemy appeasing, gun fearing, bleeding heart wussies.

Greens are the tree hugging, cheesy car driving, dope toking hippies.

Socialists and Communists are the Godless, scatterbrained, history ignoring nutjobs.

So I ask, what are libertarians? Are we so superior and ideologically flawless that no negative stereotype can portray us? :2wave:
Some, (and "Yes", there are members right here on the forum), that use the Libertarian agenda as a defense to "throw stones with no sin on their soul"...

In a two party system, it's so easy to claim that you're neither while attacking everyone from the sidelines claiming total innocence...That IS their only agenda...

They don't like the party they were originally attached to because of the people currently in the party, but you can rest assure that if the people they wanted to be in power for that party rose to that, they would switch back to that party quicker than a Catholic girl going down at her first kegger...
 

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I agree with Engimo and Korimyr the Rat.

But the reason why I am posting is that McCoy did not compose any stereotypes of the Nazis or Fascists. I'd like to hear them too.
 

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cnredd said:
Some, (and "Yes", there are members right here on the forum), that use the Libertarian agenda as a defense to "throw stones with no sin on their soul"...

In a two party system, it's so easy to claim that you're neither while attacking everyone from the sidelines claiming total innocence...That IS their only agenda...
took the words right out of my mouth. their whole philosophy is geared toward doing what the individual wants while assuming it has no effect on others, a very selfish way of thinking in my opinion. but at the same time i have a lot of liberterian characteristics. to answer the question, no i havent heard any stereotypes.
 

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Republicans are the racist
Many are and aren't, though they have more of a tendency to be more racist than us "lefties".
flag waving
Many people wave flags, though most wave them blindly, most others also do this.
Bible thumping hicks
I'll agree with this.
Everyone is "greedy" to some extent.
Wall Street loving
Most Republicans I have seen have a large distrust of corporations, the part though is that somehow by freeing up restrictions that will limit their power. But they probably see corporations as a form of a state, which we lefties worship.
SUV driving
Most people don't drive SUVs.
Relatively few are rich, so therefore I find it hard such a large group of people are all "rich".
tax raising
Many dems. want taxes raised, probably part of the reason is that taxes today are relatively low compared with fifty-years ago.
enemy appeasing
Enemy appeasing???????
gun fearing
I fear guns.
bleeding heart wussies
Sometimes.
Greens are the tree hugging
Maybe because they actually care for environment.
cheesy car driving
????????
dope toking hippies
Is this all people think of hippies? Hippies are much more than drug users, many are, many aren't.
Socialists and Communists are the Godless
You are probably referring to the Marxist sects of both, not all socialists and commies are Marxists, some can actually be utopian, and fanaticaly religous. And the reason too is that the basis of how Marxist ideas were theorised was from materialism.
scatterbrained
Who's scatterbrained?
history ignoring
Utopian ones are. Marxists look at history differently from a "historical materialist" view. Which is different than most ways people look at history. Most people look at history as events, dates, places, specific individuals. A Marxist looks at history of how past societies operated, changed, and why something happens, and how we achieved society as today.
 

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cnredd said:
Some, (and "Yes", there are members right here on the forum), that use the Libertarian agenda as a defense to "throw stones with no sin on their soul"...

In a two party system, it's so easy to claim that you're neither while attacking everyone from the sidelines claiming total innocence...That IS their only agenda...

They don't like the party they were originally attached to because of the people currently in the party, but you can rest assure that if the people they wanted to be in power for that party rose to that, they would switch back to that party quicker than a Catholic girl going down at her first kegger...
And what is wrong with switching back to the party if it once again matches one's beliefs?
 

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Comrade Brian said:
But the reason why I am posting is that McCoy did not compose any stereotypes of the Nazis or Fascists. I'd like to hear them too.
That is because, for the most part, Nazis and Fascists are more than content to serve as their own stereotypes.

Hell, most of them are nothing more than confused neoliberals fighting for their right to get a good job and not be offended by their neighbors' "indecent" entertainment. If they blamed the GOP for their problems instead of NAACP, they'd be Democrats.
 

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Engimo said:
Selfish, short-sighted, unsympathetic bastards with a poor understanding of society and economics? :prof
You forget arrogant. Maybr that's only McCoy...

I don't appreciate the sterotype for Republican, my being one. I'm going to disect that, mkay?

Republicans are the racist, flag waving, Bible thumping hicks or greedy, Wall Street loving, SUV driving fat cats.

The thing about a stereotype is that it is given to a whole group rather than one person. If we all saw each other as individuals and seperate entities unbounded by our political affiliations, than the world may be somewhat nicer. I don't know about all Republicans, but I will tell you about myself, because the actions and image of many should not reflect everyone in that group.

"Republicans are the racist..." I wouldn't think of myself as racist. I'm applying to a school next year that represents every race and ethnic background on earth. I'm very exited about meeting and learning about new people, not discriminating against them. Also, I now go to an all white church and an all white school and I hate it because I simply am not racist.

"...flag waving..." American flag you mean? I wouldn't call that a bad thing, however, even though I'm firm in my beliefs, I don't go around yelling at people and waving flags to get them to think like me because it doesn't work that day.

"...Bible thumping..." I really do hate that label. What religion are you? What do you believe in? I could probably think of a rude lable for you and yours, but I am not going to. Yes, I believe in God and the Bible. I use scripture in my debates and I plan to use it in my future political career.

"...hicks..." I love that word. I live in Louisiana where everyone I go to school with has a belt-buckle the size of Rhode Island. A select few enjoy taking pictures of mud holes and then prancing around with the picture yelling, "I'm gonna drive my truck thru this!" I can't help but laugh and think...that's the future of America. Anyway, I personally love to visit large cities and admire the buildings. I'm an intelligent, civilized, computer geek who's never been hunting deer in his life.

"...greedy, Wall Street loving..." Greedy. Well, from what I know, Republicans try to gain the support of the richer croud during election time. Democrats, however, get the support of minorites like blacks and poorer people, offering them "40 acres and a mule" but not fulfilling what they guaranteed them. Who's wrong there? If I even planned to pursue a government office, I would run as Republican, but being an honest person, I wouldn't make any promises I couldn't fulfill. I can't stand being hated, so by making such promises, I would be digging my hole deeper.

"...SUV driving fat cats... My mom drives an SUV. Avtually, a Chevy Suburban. Is than an SUV? Hmmmm...I like the Jeep Wrangler. That's a great vehicle for driving cross-country.
 
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To those of you who took the time to disassemble those stereotypes line by line, that was totally unnecessary. I'm 100% aware that not nearly everybody fits in to those categories. that's why they're STEREOTYPES. This wasn't supposed to be taken seriously. Perhaps it's my fault for not putting this in the "On the lighter side" forum.
 

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No problem. I just had nothing better to do today.
 

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The Real McCoy said:
To those of you who took the time to disassemble those stereotypes line by line, that was totally unnecessary. I'm 100% aware that not nearly everybody fits in to those categories. that's why they're STEREOTYPES. This wasn't supposed to be taken seriously. Perhaps it's my fault for not putting this in the "On the lighter side" forum.
I started this thread awhile ago which deals with stereotypes and generalizations if you (or anyone) feels like taking a look...:2wave:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/showthread.php?t=2953
 

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The Real McCoy said:
Most political ideologies have their stereotypes.

Republicans are the racist, flag waving, Bible thumping hicks or greedy, Wall Street loving, SUV driving fat cats.

Democrats are the tax raising, enemy appeasing, gun fearing, bleeding heart wussies.

Greens are the tree hugging, cheesy car driving, dope toking hippies.

Socialists and Communists are the Godless, scatterbrained, history ignoring nutjobs.

So I ask, what are libertarians? Are we so superior and ideologically flawless that no negative stereotype can portray us? :2wave:
Stereotypes are used so people who are "Scared" or are "Pussies," that don't want to know what someone else it like, so they "Pre-Judge" or Stereotype, and assume the obvious. Well what I have learned so far is ASSUME NOTHING!

As for Socialists, just look at Lenin! How was he a great leader? :confused:
 
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