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Step By Step On How To Fake An Impeachment

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Nancy Pelosi:
Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path because it divides the country. And he’s just not worth it.
We now know that was a lie.

Now on to how to fake an impeachment

1. Schiff opens the hearing with his Soprano version of the call.
2. Democrats hold depositions behind closed doors to weed out testimony they don't want the public to hear
3. Democrats refuse all testimony in opposition of their agenda
4. Then Schiff leaks out cherry picked parts to the media
5. Democrats refuse all Republican witnesses
6. Democrats refuse to allow Republican minority day
7. Schiff secretly gets a subpoena to get political opponents phone metadata (not conversations) and releases it to the media with his guess as to what those calls contain
8. Every witness provided by Democrats testify under oath during Republican questioning they have no knowledge of any bribery, quid pro quo or any other impeachable crimes. They all state they are testifying to what they presume was happening.
9. Democrats refuse to subpoena any Republican witnesses to have a court order Trumps witnesses to the hearing because this is a matter of national security and we are in an emergency situation and time is of the essence.

Now, without a single witness who can testify in court, they vote for articles of impeachment without a single Republican vote

Knowing they can't host any witnesses in a Senate trial, and while we are under this national security emergency, Pelosi refuses to provide the articles of Impeachment to the Senate.

Pelosi tries to renegotiate the rules of evidence and witness testimony with McConnell to allow her hearsay witnesses. McConnell says no. The rules of evidence and testimony will be the same as every court room in the country like its been from the beginning of time.

Pelosi wants to call defendant witness because she can't call her own. McConnell says no.

Its not the job of the Senate to do the Democrats Impeachment investigation. The Senate trial is only there to hear the articles and the evidence to support those articles. Pelosi doesn't have any witnesses or evidence to support the articles. Which means the articles aren't worth the paper they are written on.

In what court room setting does a defendant provide witnesses for their defense when there are no witnesses who can testify for the prosecution. Never in the history of any court room has this ever happened and it isn't going to happen now.

McConnell tells Pelosi, since she has no witnesses to provide, he isn't calling witnesses either.

This is the legacy Democrats are providing for their party. Only an idiot would attempt an impeachment after

1. Falling on their faces from the Mueller debacle
2. Without a single witness who can testify
3. With only Democrat votes
4. Knowing they will never get a conviction

This isn't an impeachment. This is desperation from a party that has no other options.
 

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Sorry to burst your bubble., but this is already in the books as an impeachment. And hopefully it will result in a removal, if not in the Senate than at the ballot box.
 

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Nancy Pelosi:


We now know that was a lie.

Now on to how to fake an impeachment

1. Schiff opens the hearing with his Soprano version of the call.
2. Democrats hold depositions behind closed doors to weed out testimony they don't want the public to hear
3. Democrats refuse all testimony in opposition of their agenda
4. Then Schiff leaks out cherry picked parts to the media
5. Democrats refuse all Republican witnesses
6. Democrats refuse to allow Republican minority day
7. Schiff secretly gets a subpoena to get political opponents phone metadata (not conversations) and releases it to the media with his guess as to what those calls contain
8. Every witness provided by Democrats testify under oath during Republican questioning they have no knowledge of any bribery, quid pro quo or any other impeachable crimes. They all state they are testifying to what they presume was happening.
9. Democrats refuse to subpoena any Republican witnesses to have a court order Trumps witnesses to the hearing because this is a matter of national security and we are in an emergency situation and time is of the essence.

Now, without a single witness who can testify in court, they vote for articles of impeachment without a single Republican vote

Knowing they can't host any witnesses in a Senate trial, and while we are under this national security emergency, Pelosi refuses to provide the articles of Impeachment to the Senate.

Pelosi tries to renegotiate the rules of evidence and witness testimony with McConnell to allow her hearsay witnesses. McConnell says no. The rules of evidence and testimony will be the same as every court room in the country like its been from the beginning of time.

Pelosi wants to call defendant witness because she can't call her own. McConnell says no.

Its not the job of the Senate to do the Democrats Impeachment investigation. The Senate trial is only there to hear the articles and the evidence to support those articles. Pelosi doesn't have any witnesses or evidence to support the articles. Which means the articles aren't worth the paper they are written on.

In what court room setting does a defendant provide witnesses for their defense when there are no witnesses who can testify for the prosecution. Never in the history of any court room has this ever happened and it isn't going to happen now.

McConnell tells Pelosi, since she has no witnesses to provide, he isn't calling witnesses either.

This is the legacy Democrats are providing for their party. Only an idiot would attempt an impeachment after

1. Falling on their faces from the Mueller debacle
2. Without a single witness who can testify
3. With only Democrat votes
4. Knowing they will never get a conviction

This isn't an impeachment. This is desperation from a party that has no other options.
No, this is an impeachment in which the case against Trump was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt despite the resistance, obstruction, stonewalling and complete illegal defiance of Congressional subpoenas. Even with obstruction of Congress and Trump's sycophants trying to pull in Hunter Biden into the investigation, in which Hunter Biden has absolutely nothing to do with, the votes were to impeach Trump -- and so it goes, and it goes on for history.
 

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Sorry to burst your bubble., but this is already in the books as an impeachment. And hopefully it will result in a removal, if not in the Senate than at the ballot box.
Exactly it's in the books. Pelosi and Schiff go down in history along with Newt Gingrich as having impeached a president. Hope the country can survive every future president being impeached whenever the opposing party controls the House of Representatives. We could be in for a wild ride.
 

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No, this is an impeachment in which the case against Trump was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt despite the resistance, obstruction, stonewalling and complete illegal defiance of Congressional subpoenas. Even with obstruction of Congress and Trump's sycophants trying to pull in Hunter Biden into the investigation, in which Hunter Biden has absolutely nothing to do with, the votes were to impeach Trump -- and so it goes, and it goes on for history.
Yet you can't dispute anything listed?

This isn't going to be a Senate Trial based on feelings or john told me that Billy said that Kelly was thinking that Trump thought (X)

The evidence is in the fact that they don't have a single witness that can testify to support their Articles.

Your idea of what Trump (or any president) can or can't do is just your own opinion and there is no such thing as Illegal defiance of Congressional hearings from a President. Isn't this the very same claims made after the Mueller report and we all know how that turned out.

I know this will come as a blow to you because you have been hyped up by the likes of Adam Schiff but a president can investigate anyone he thinks is abusing the powers of office and Biden doesn't get a pass just because he is running in a primary. Thats all just fantasy land.

If you have pinned your hopes on that then you are in for a huge let down.
 

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Exactly it's in the books. Pelosi and Schiff go down in history along with Newt Gingrich as having impeached a president. Hope the country can survive every future president being impeached whenever the opposing party controls the House of Representatives. We could be in for a wild ride.
Bush, and Obama never faced impeachment well in spite of being war criminals.
 

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Yet you can't dispute anything listed?

This isn't going to be a Senate Trial based on feelings or john told me that Billy said that Kelly was thinking that Trump thought (X)

The evidence is in the fact that they don't have a single witness that can testify to support their Articles.

Your idea of what Trump (or any president) can or can't do is just your own opinion and there is no such thing as Illegal defiance of Congressional hearings from a President. Isn't this the very same claims made after the Mueller report and we all know how that turned out.

I know this will come as a blow to you because you have been hyped up by the likes of Adam Schiff but a president can investigate anyone he thinks is abusing the powers of office and Biden doesn't get a pass just because he is running in a primary. Thats all just fantasy land.

If you have pinned your hopes on that then you are in for a huge let down.
I didn't even read your list. It's nothing but fake news and propaganda.
 

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Sorry to burst your bubble., but this is already in the books as an impeachment. And hopefully it will result in a removal, if not in the Senate than at the ballot box.
You're right, impeachment is a done deal, wonder how long they will be in denial about it.....till they're 6 feet under? :2razz:
 

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Bush, and Obama never faced impeachment well in spite of being war criminals.
Wait til the next Democrat president is sworn in with a majority Republican House. You ain't seen impeachment yet there's going to be a sharknado impeachment. It's on now people.
 

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Sorry to burst your bubble., but this is already in the books as an impeachment. And hopefully it will result in a removal, if not in the Senate than at the ballot box.
We know whats in the books. But you actually think there is some hope Trump will be removed without a single witness who can testify to the articles? Please
 

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I didn't even read your list. It's nothing but fake news and propaganda.
Thank you for confirming what everyone knows about Democrats and their processes.

You never read anything but its fake news and propaganda? How would you know?
 

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We know whats in the books. But you actually think there is some hope Trump will be removed without a single witness who can testify to the articles? Please
Actually, we wouldn’t expect Trump to be removed even if Mulvaney and Bolton came forward to testify that they saw Trump murdering a troop of Girl Scouts, but that’s not the point.
 

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You're right, impeachment is a done deal, wonder how long they will be in denial about it.....till they're 6 feet under? :2razz:
About as long as it takes some anti-Trumpers to realize an impeachment without a conviction was a lousy political decision for the Democrats.
 

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About as long as it takes some anti-Trumpers to realize an impeachment without a conviction was a lousy political decision for the Democrats.
Only if you agree that it’s stupid to indict someone for murder just because you know that all the jury members are going to be his family, and that they’ll be able to select the witnesses and evidence used in the trial.
 

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Wait til the next Democrat president is sworn in with a majority Republican House. You ain't seen impeachment yet there's going to be a sharknado impeachment. It's on now people.
The GOP held a Congress majority for six of Obama's eight years, and the GOP were absolutely adamant about making Obama a one-term President. Have you stopped to consider that maybe Donald Trump was impeached because he committed crimes?
 

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The GOP held a Congress majority for six of Obama's eight years, and the GOP were absolutely adamant about making Obama a one-term President. Have you stopped to consider that maybe Donald Trump was impeached because he committed crimes?
Obama was never in danger of impeachment being the first black president and all that. Unfortunately impeachment is now a legitimate tool of the opposition party. Guess we're going to have to live with it from now on.
 

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Obama was never in danger of impeachment being the first black president and all that.
Obama's race didn't stop him from being sued, mocked, and castrated by the Republican Congress. The only saving grace that Obama had was that his crimes matched his predecessor.

Unfortunately impeachment is now a legitimate tool of the opposition party. Guess we're going to have to live with it from now on.
That's only the case if you elect mouth breathing morons who see impeachment as a weapon instead of a means to hold public officials accountable for committing crimes. You have that power, don't elect people that you know will act only in bad faith.
 

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Exactly it's in the books. Pelosi and Schiff go down in history along with Newt Gingrich as having impeached a president. Hope the country can survive every future president being impeached whenever the opposing party controls the House of Representatives. We could be in for a wild ride.
The difference here, is in whether it is the right thing to do, and whether the American People are behind it? Barely 25% of the American public wanted Clinton removed. Here, a majority - even if slight - want him removed. The House has to do the work of the People.

BTW, I was in the 25% minority that wanted Clinton removed. I don't take this stuff lightly. Trump & Clinton work for me, not the other way around - in case they get too big for their britches.
 

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Obama's race didn't stop him from being sued, mocked, and castrated by the Republican Congress. The only saving grace that Obama had was that his crimes matched his predecessor.



That's only the case if you elect mouth breathing morons who see impeachment as a weapon instead of a means to hold public officials accountable for committing crimes. You have that power, don't elect people that you know will act only in bad faith.
I don't vote for mouth breathing morons any more since Nancy Pelosi went rogue on me.
 

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About as long as it takes some anti-Trumpers to realize an impeachment without a conviction was a lousy political decision for the Democrats.
If this turns out to be a bad political decision for Pelosi, something I doubt, it will not be because of the wishes of the American People - but rather due to the vagaries of the Electorate College.

In 2016 Trump lost the People, but won the Electoral College. Currently in impeachment matters he has again lost the American People - even if by a scant margin. And it looks like our wishes our going to be nullified by the States once more - this time by the Senate! And you know what? It's very possible this upcoming election becomes another example of the Electoral College over-ruling us again! So, why is there so much unrest in the country? Duh!

Reference: (538.com) Do Americans Support Removing Trump From Office?
 

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Actually, we wouldn’t expect Trump to be removed even if Mulvaney and Bolton came forward to testify that they saw Trump murdering a troop of Girl Scouts, but that’s not the point.
They why would you expect him to be removed with articles that have no witnesses who can testify? Are Democrats really that stupid? I guess they are.
 

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I don't vote for mouth breathing morons any more since Nancy Pelosi went rogue on me.
Oh right, I forgot that you and reality are not exactly on good terms right now. Carry on.
 

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Only if you agree that it’s stupid to indict someone for murder just because you know that all the jury members are going to be his family, and that they’ll be able to select the witnesses and evidence used in the trial.
So you admit Democrats are stupid. We agree
 
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