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Steal from the poor, and give to the rich

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The working-class poor often have no option when it comes to higher education.

First off, after 12 years of substandard public school education, they have no chance of succeeding at Yale.

They were educated just well enough so as to allow them to do the work that the elite wouldn't dream of doing for themselves.

Twelve years should have been enough time to teach nearly every child enough so they could earn a good living.
Sadly, most children in the non-elite areas of our country, are poorly educated. (Even though the price paid for that education was very high.)
Many High School graduates can't read at a 5th-grade level. (Shame on those teachers for spending so much of the children's time programing our children to believe leftist dogma.)

Secondly, many of the folks who are going to pay for the education of the elite, had no opportunity to attend college because they had to go to work to help support their families.
Picture a working-class guy who got his working-class girl pregnant. Both of them have to quit school to support their child. They worked hard and finally get their heads above water and now you tell them that they have to pay for the elite bum's education. They paid for their obligations and now you ask them to pay for yours!

Thirdly, many of those who did not take these loans realized that they could not hope to pay such a high price. These kids believed that a contract should be honored. Why should they now be forced to pay for the deadbeat bum's schooling?

So now, those who have been working hard while the elites have been going to school, are asked to pay for the education of the elite so the elite guy can walk into the business and get twice the pay as the guys who paid for their education.

This, more than any other example, shows the divide between the elites and the blue-collar working people.

This type of garbage is what has taken blue-collar workers away from the Democrats and delivered them to Donald Trump. (Not to the Republicans, but to Donald Trump!)


The elite bums want the blue-collar working people to pay for everything. If you signed the paper, you should pay the bill.

Welfare bums at the top of our society, (Many of them in the swamp.), and welfare bums at the bottom, (Those actually getting a government welfare check.), leaves us with little room for the blue-collar working folks who have to pay for everything.
 
When you say “the elite” who exactly are you talking about?
 
When you say “the elite” who exactly are you talking about?

The Koch Brothers and their “conservative” tentacles that have spread through almost every area of American life, and especially in politics where a Republican can’t breathe unless a Koch Brothers sponsored organization gives them oxygen. And this includes the far right political-based judges on the Supreme Court. The fix is in.
 
The working-class poor often have no option when it comes to higher education.

First off, after 12 years of substandard public school education, they have no chance of succeeding at Yale.

They were educated just well enough so as to allow them to do the work that the elite wouldn't dream of doing for themselves.

Twelve years should have been enough time to teach nearly every child enough so they could earn a good living.
Sadly, most children in the non-elite areas of our country, are poorly educated. (Even though the price paid for that education was very high.)
Many High School graduates can't read at a 5th-grade level. (Shame on those teachers for spending so much of the children's time programing our children to believe leftist dogma.)

Secondly, many of the folks who are going to pay for the education of the elite, had no opportunity to attend college because they had to go to work to help support their families.
Picture a working-class guy who got his working-class girl pregnant. Both of them have to quit school to support their child. They worked hard and finally get their heads above water and now you tell them that they have to pay for the elite bum's education. They paid for their obligations and now you ask them to pay for yours!

Thirdly, many of those who did not take these loans realized that they could not hope to pay such a high price. These kids believed that a contract should be honored. Why should they now be forced to pay for the deadbeat bum's schooling?

So now, those who have been working hard while the elites have been going to school, are asked to pay for the education of the elite so the elite guy can walk into the business and get twice the pay as the guys who paid for their education.

This, more than any other example, shows the divide between the elites and the blue-collar working people.

This type of garbage is what has taken blue-collar workers away from the Democrats and delivered them to Donald Trump. (Not to the Republicans, but to Donald Trump!)


The elite bums want the blue-collar working people to pay for everything. If you signed the paper, you should pay the bill.

Welfare bums at the top of our society, (Many of them in the swamp.), and welfare bums at the bottom, (Those actually getting a government welfare check.), leaves us with little room for the blue-collar working folks who have to pay for everything.
If every child was given a college education, that brings up a few very important issues that nobody wants to talk about.

First, there's more than one reason why not every kid should go to college. The belief that you can teach anyone to do anything is WRONG. Going to college requires a level of intelligence that unfortunately, not everyone possesses. In fact, I would say that less than half of kids out of high school have the necessary intelligence to get a useful degree (not one in the humanities or fashion design which are useless) that will get them a high paying career. I know people don't like to hear it, but college is, and always has been, for the best and brightest, not for everyone who gets a high school diploma. If you put people in college that aren't capable of passing those courses, you've not only set them up for failure, you've taken away years from their working life and their ability to rise up in the profession they end up working in.

That brings up another issue... The world still needs plumbers, construction workers, fire fighters, police officers, factory workers, maintenance people, etc... and pushing all kids into college is only going to make it that much more difficult for those who end up dropping out after a few years, for those who obtain degrees that have little to no practical use, and those who obtain a degree that millions of others already have and can't find placement in their chosen field.

I just don't think it's healthy for our society to continue trying to get every kid into college and ignoring the fact that a very high percentage of those kids will not end up in a high paying career, and pretending that opting for "blue collar" work instead of college somehow makes them a failure or under-achiever. I really think more emphasis needs to be given to vocational training, trade schools and apprenticeships.

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If every child was given a college education, that brings up a few very important issues that nobody wants to talk about.

First, there's more than one reason why not every kid should go to college. The belief that you can teach anyone to do anything is WRONG. Going to college requires a level of intelligence that unfortunately, not everyone possesses. In fact, I would say that less than half of kids out of high school have the necessary intelligence to get a useful degree (not one in the humanities or fashion design which are useless) that will get them a high paying career. I know people don't like to hear it, but college is, and always has been, for the best and brightest, not for everyone who gets a high school diploma. If you put people in college that aren't capable of passing those courses, you've not only set them up for failure, you've taken away years from their working life and their ability to rise up in the profession they end up working in.

That brings up another issue... The world still needs plumbers, construction workers, fire fighters, police officers, factory workers, maintenance people, etc... and pushing all kids into college is only going to make it that much more difficult for those who end up dropping out after a few years, for those who obtain degrees that have little to no practical use, and those who obtain a degree that millions of others already have and can't find placement in their chosen field.

I just don't think it's healthy for our society to continue trying to get every kid into college and ignoring the fact that a very high percentage of those kids will not end up in a high paying career, and pretending that opting for "blue collar" work instead of college somehow makes them a failure or under-achiever. I really think more emphasis needs to be given to vocational training, trade schools and apprenticeships.
But what do you do when those blue collar jobs no longer pay a sufficient wage to feed and raise a family?
 
The Koch Brothers and their “conservative” tentacles that have spread through almost every area of American life, and especially in politics where a Republican can’t breathe unless a Koch Brothers sponsored organization gives them oxygen. And this includes the far right political-based judges on the Supreme Court. The fix is in.
((Spelled soros wrong
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The Koch Brothers and their “conservative” tentacles that have spread through almost every area of American life, and especially in politics where a Republican can’t breathe unless a Koch Brothers sponsored organization gives them oxygen. And this includes the far right political-based judges on the Supreme Court. The fix is in.
The Koch brothers are the ones pushing Biden on this?
 
But what do you do when those blue collar jobs no longer pay a sufficient wage to feed and raise a family?
Two choices... You either make it work or you put a bullet in your brain. <sarcasm off>

People always manage to somehow get by and that hasn't changed. My father and grandfather both learned trades when they were young and by the time they were 20, had established themselves in their chosen blue collar professions. Unfortunately that is nearly impossible today because of age restrictions and minimum wage laws.

I live half the year in Mexico and the people here manage to get by on a fraction of the money people in the US have. Young people depend on their families to help support them until they make enough money to go out on their own. They share resources and instead of spending their money on a new car or an iPhone, they get a junker car, a cheap cell phone and they save their money to buy small piece of land and over time build themselves a house on it.

If they can get by, there's no reason we can't get by.

.
 
The working-class poor often have no option when it comes to higher education.

First off, after 12 years of substandard public school education, they have no chance of succeeding at Yale.

They were educated just well enough so as to allow them to do the work that the elite wouldn't dream of doing for themselves.

Twelve years should have been enough time to teach nearly every child enough so they could earn a good living.
Sadly, most children in the non-elite areas of our country, are poorly educated. (Even though the price paid for that education was very high.)
Many High School graduates can't read at a 5th-grade level. (Shame on those teachers for spending so much of the children's time programing our children to believe leftist dogma.)

Secondly, many of the folks who are going to pay for the education of the elite, had no opportunity to attend college because they had to go to work to help support their families.
Picture a working-class guy who got his working-class girl pregnant. Both of them have to quit school to support their child. They worked hard and finally get their heads above water and now you tell them that they have to pay for the elite bum's education. They paid for their obligations and now you ask them to pay for yours!

Thirdly, many of those who did not take these loans realized that they could not hope to pay such a high price. These kids believed that a contract should be honored. Why should they now be forced to pay for the deadbeat bum's schooling?

So now, those who have been working hard while the elites have been going to school, are asked to pay for the education of the elite so the elite guy can walk into the business and get twice the pay as the guys who paid for their education.

This, more than any other example, shows the divide between the elites and the blue-collar working people.

This type of garbage is what has taken blue-collar workers away from the Democrats and delivered them to Donald Trump. (Not to the Republicans, but to Donald Trump!)


The elite bums want the blue-collar working people to pay for everything. If you signed the paper, you should pay the bill.

Welfare bums at the top of our society, (Many of them in the swamp.), and welfare bums at the bottom, (Those actually getting a government welfare check.), leaves us with little room for the blue-collar working folks who have to pay for everything.
Steal from the poor and give to the rich? Was that something that was a quote from a Trump tweet?
 
Two choices... You either make it work or you put a bullet in your brain. <sarcasm off>

People always manage to somehow get by and that hasn't changed. My father and grandfather both learned trades when they were young and by the time they were 20, had established themselves in their chosen blue collar professions. Unfortunately that is nearly impossible today because of age restrictions and minimum wage laws.

I live half the year in Mexico and the people here manage to get by on a fraction of the money people in the US have. Young people depend on their families to help support them until they make enough money to go out on their own. They share resources and instead of spending their money on a new car or an iPhone, they get a junker car, a cheap cell phone and they save their money to buy small piece of land and over time build themselves a house on it.

If they can get by, there's no reason we can't get by.
Is that the goal? To increase poverty and decrease blue collar wages until they're comparable to Mexico?
 
But what do you do when those blue collar jobs no longer pay a sufficient wage to feed and raise a family?
If the elite had not flooded America with uneducated Illegals, the laws of supply and demand would keep wages up.

If you remember the late Seventies, you might know that the teachers in New York City were crying about the wages of garbage workers being equal to their own.

The head of the garbage workers union said something like, "The city needs us more than the city needs you, and you can always come to work with us if you want to."
If teachers strike for a week no one misses them. If garbage workers strike for a week, the city stinks to high heaven.

The fact was that as there became fewer and fewer unskilled jobs, there also became fewer and fewer unskilled workers.

As our society progressed, and more people got better educations, we found ourselves doing away with jobs that low-skilled workers did.

What happened then? The elite decided that they could still get slave labor in China. For local jobs, slaves could still be imported from South America.

The elite Democrats and the elite Republicans were 100% in agreement when it came to importing slave labor or sending to China for it.

If it weren't for this slave labor, construction workers would make more than government paper pushers. This is how it was before the Income-tax was legalized.
And properly so, who does more for you? The guy who raises your food, or some bureaucrat in Washington?

Only half-jokingly I might mention that teachers are purposely doing a terrible job educating our children because teachers are part of the elite and they want more slave laborers.
 
Clearly you haven’t a clue. Probably because you are a victim of Koch Brothers propaganda.
Turns out you're right! I thought Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and BArrett were solid judges. Turns out they're far right extremists.
 
Turns out you're right! I thought Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and BArrett were solid judges. Turns out they're far right extremists.
Is that why you invited them to dinner?
 
The working-class poor often have no option when it comes to higher education.

First off, after 12 years of substandard public school education, they have no chance of succeeding at Yale.

They were educated just well enough so as to allow them to do the work that the elite wouldn't dream of doing for themselves.

Twelve years should have been enough time to teach nearly every child enough so they could earn a good living.
Sadly, most children in the non-elite areas of our country, are poorly educated. (Even though the price paid for that education was very high.)
Many High School graduates can't read at a 5th-grade level. (Shame on those teachers for spending so much of the children's time programing our children to believe leftist dogma.)

Secondly, many of the folks who are going to pay for the education of the elite, had no opportunity to attend college because they had to go to work to help support their families.
Picture a working-class guy who got his working-class girl pregnant. Both of them have to quit school to support their child. They worked hard and finally get their heads above water and now you tell them that they have to pay for the elite bum's education. They paid for their obligations and now you ask them to pay for yours!

Thirdly, many of those who did not take these loans realized that they could not hope to pay such a high price. These kids believed that a contract should be honored. Why should they now be forced to pay for the deadbeat bum's schooling?

So now, those who have been working hard while the elites have been going to school, are asked to pay for the education of the elite so the elite guy can walk into the business and get twice the pay as the guys who paid for their education.

This, more than any other example, shows the divide between the elites and the blue-collar working people.

This type of garbage is what has taken blue-collar workers away from the Democrats and delivered them to Donald Trump. (Not to the Republicans, but to Donald Trump!)


The elite bums want the blue-collar working people to pay for everything. If you signed the paper, you should pay the bill.

Welfare bums at the top of our society, (Many of them in the swamp.), and welfare bums at the bottom, (Those actually getting a government welfare check.), leaves us with little room for the blue-collar working folks who have to pay for everything.
Almost every kid these days has a computer or access to one.

If they want to learn more about the subjects they are being taught, they have that option.

Now tell me why some students, from those areas where you say they are receiving a substandard education, succeed and go on to a college like Yale and some don't?

What could be the difference?
 
If every child was given a college education, that brings up a few very important issues that nobody wants to talk about.

First, there's more than one reason why not every kid should go to college. The belief that you can teach anyone to do anything is WRONG. Going to college requires a level of intelligence that unfortunately, not everyone possesses. In fact, I would say that less than half of kids out of high school have the necessary intelligence to get a useful degree (not one in the humanities or fashion design which are useless) that will get them a high paying career. I know people don't like to hear it, but college is, and always has been, for the best and brightest, not for everyone who gets a high school diploma. If you put people in college that aren't capable of passing those courses, you've not only set them up for failure, you've taken away years from their working life and their ability to rise up in the profession they end up working in.

That brings up another issue... The world still needs plumbers, construction workers, fire fighters, police officers, factory workers, maintenance people, etc... and pushing all kids into college is only going to make it that much more difficult for those who end up dropping out after a few years, for those who obtain degrees that have little to no practical use, and those who obtain a degree that millions of others already have and can't find placement in their chosen field.

I just don't think it's healthy for our society to continue trying to get every kid into college and ignoring the fact that a very high percentage of those kids will not end up in a high paying career, and pretending that opting for "blue collar" work instead of college somehow makes them a failure or under-achiever. I really think more emphasis needs to be given to vocational training, trade schools and apprenticeships.

.
"The world needs ditch digger too." Judge Elihu Smails
 
Two choices... You either make it work or you put a bullet in your brain. <sarcasm off>

People always manage to somehow get by and that hasn't changed. My father and grandfather both learned trades when they were young and by the time they were 20, had established themselves in their chosen blue collar professions. Unfortunately that is nearly impossible today because of age restrictions and minimum wage laws.

I live half the year in Mexico and the people here manage to get by on a fraction of the money people in the US have. Young people depend on their families to help support them until they make enough money to go out on their own. They share resources and instead of spending their money on a new car or an iPhone, they get a junker car, a cheap cell phone and they save their money to buy small piece of land and over time build themselves a house on it.

If they can get by, there's no reason we can't get by.

.
Many generations also live together in a smaller dwelling here in Mexico.

That is not the US lifestyle.
 
But what do you do when those blue collar jobs no longer pay a sufficient wage to feed and raise a family?
Severely cut immigration, but you as a leftist know that your political parties future success lies in constantly replacing the existing population and so you will support mass migration that results in lower wages
 
Is that the goal? To increase poverty and decrease blue collar wages until they're comparable to Mexico?
Blue collar wages are very high in Mexico by Mexican standards. Mexico is richer than Ukraine.

The reason of course poverty is increasing in America is because America is importing poverty from around the world through mass migration because the democrats need new voters to replace ones who don’t like them.
 
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