• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

State owned oil. GOP start your legislation

Sand Castle

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 8, 2019
Messages
6,198
Reaction score
2,711
Location
Massachusetts
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
The Right is fixated about blaming Biden for everything "Oil".

All yapping, no real solutions, spinning false narratives for gotcha Biden.

The Right should go ahead and tell their oil company donors, your all done. You are not producing enough oil, which has lead to high prices.

Also, you haven't done enough with all the underground rights you own to fully supply U.S. necessary to cut off Russian oil.

Solution for those blaming government, which is odd because many are government, we'll go ahead, make the U.S. a state owned oil company.
 

VanceMack

MSG Benavidez TAB
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 1, 2010
Messages
84,075
Reaction score
37,081
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
The Right is fixated about blaming Biden for everything "Oil".

All yapping, no real solutions, spinning false narratives for gotcha Biden.

The Right should go ahead and tell their oil company donors, your all done. You are not producing enough oil, which has lead to high prices.

Also, you haven't done enough with all the underground rights you own to fully supply U.S. necessary to cut off Russian oil.

Solution for those blaming government, which is odd because many are government, we'll go ahead, make the U.S. a state owned oil company.
You have some seriously stupid positions, guided by your blind partisan hatred.

Biden inheriited an energy policy that resulted in the US become energy independent and a net exporter of oil and natural gas...and that literally had **** all to do with government ownership of the oil in dustry. If Biden and the moronic ****wits that support him werent so blindly invested in a failed green energy program and making sure they undid everything Trump accomplished (not because it was the right thing to do but purely out of sheer spite and hatred), we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place. He had one job...just dont **** up the progress made. Unfortunately, when Obama said "Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up"...he wasnt kidding.
 

Gateman_Wen

Official disruptive influence
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 27, 2017
Messages
19,822
Reaction score
21,031
Location
Middle of it all
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
The Right is fixated about blaming Biden for everything "Oil".

All yapping, no real solutions, spinning false narratives for gotcha Biden.

The Right should go ahead and tell their oil company donors, your all done. You are not producing enough oil, which has lead to high prices.

Also, you haven't done enough with all the underground rights you own to fully supply U.S. necessary to cut off Russian oil.

Solution for those blaming government, which is odd because many are government, we'll go ahead, make the U.S. a state owned oil company.
I agree completely. Nationalize the oil companies. The nation's natural resources belong to the people.
 

BlueTex

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
41,855
Reaction score
32,280
Location
Texas
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
You have some seriously stupid positions, guided by your blind partisan hatred.

Biden inheriited an energy policy that resulted in the US become energy independent and a net exporter of oil and natural gas...and that literally had **** all to do with government ownership of the oil in dustry. If Biden and the moronic ****wits that support him werent so blindly invested in a failed green energy program and making sure they undid everything Trump accomplished (not because it was the right thing to do but purely out of sheer spite and hatred), we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place. He had one job...just dont **** up the progress made. Unfortunately, when Obama said "Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up"...he wasnt kidding.


The "policy" he inherited was a collapsed economy with very little demand for oil and natural gas... Funny how acting like an idiot when responding to pandemic can collapse an economy...
 

Razoo

Suspended
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 1, 2017
Messages
22,847
Reaction score
6,781
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Undisclosed
The Right is fixated about blaming Biden for everything "Oil".

All yapping, no real solutions, spinning false narratives for gotcha Biden.

The Right should go ahead and tell their oil company donors, your all done. You are not producing enough oil, which has lead to high prices.

Also, you haven't done enough with all the underground rights you own to fully supply U.S. necessary to cut off Russian oil.

Solution for those blaming government, which is odd because many are government, we'll go ahead, make the U.S. a state owned oil company.
There is plenty of oil in the USA. The oil giants are keeping a ton in the ground. This price gouging is not necessary. Corporations are lying to we the consumers. Our best tool to challenge manipulation using
less and less and less fossil fuels. Too many elected officials are on the take therefore we must take the
law into our own hands. Cut back 50%.
 

Bok Tuklo

I Shave with Occam's Razor
DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 10, 2010
Messages
3,223
Reaction score
4,243
Location
DFW
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Centrist
You have some seriously stupid positions, guided by your blind partisan hatred.

Biden inheriited an energy policy that resulted in the US become energy independent and a net exporter of oil and natural gas...and that literally had **** all to do with government ownership of the oil in dustry. If Biden and the moronic ****wits that support him werent so blindly invested in a failed green energy program and making sure they undid everything Trump accomplished (not because it was the right thing to do but purely out of sheer spite and hatred), we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place. He had one job...just dont **** up the progress made. Unfortunately, when Obama said "Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up"...he wasnt kidding.

But oil production in the US isn’t down from when Biden took office.

The Link

Neither is natural gas production.

The Link
 

BlueTex

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
41,855
Reaction score
32,280
Location
Texas
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Some of our conservative friends seem to believe the oil and gas industry is the ONE market where suppliers are unhappy with high prices...
 

Jkca1

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 10, 2021
Messages
1,013
Reaction score
711
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
The Right is fixated about blaming Biden for everything "Oil".

All yapping, no real solutions, spinning false narratives for gotcha Biden.

The Right should go ahead and tell their oil company donors, your all done. You are not producing enough oil, which has lead to high prices.

Also, you haven't done enough with all the underground rights you own to fully supply U.S. necessary to cut off Russian oil.

Solution for those blaming government, which is odd because many are government, we'll go ahead, make the U.S. a state owned oil company.

If I was the GOP I would be blasting advertisements blaming Biden for high prices at the gas pump and the loss of Afghanistan. It's an election year and more importantly, people vote with their wallets. I don't care what party, you support 7% inflation should get you kicked out of office.
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
91,653
Reaction score
39,394
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
You have some seriously stupid positions, guided by your blind partisan hatred.

Biden inheriited an energy policy that resulted in the US become energy independent and a net exporter of oil and natural gas...and that literally had **** all to do with government ownership of the oil in dustry. If Biden and the moronic ****wits that support him werent so blindly invested in a failed green energy program and making sure they undid everything Trump accomplished (not because it was the right thing to do but purely out of sheer spite and hatred), we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place. He had one job...just dont **** up the progress made. Unfortunately, when Obama said "Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up"...he wasnt kidding.
The puppet was directed to do all those things...and the puppet master was Obama.

That's why Obama made sure that the puppet was the Democratic Party nominee. That's why the Obama supported the Trump haters in their election fraud that put the puppet in the WH. And that's why Obama made sure that more than 90% of the people in the puppet's administration came directly from the Obama administration.

So no...contrary to what Obama said about Biden ****ing things up, this **** up is entirely on Obama.
 

Jkca1

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 10, 2021
Messages
1,013
Reaction score
711
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
The puppet was directed to do all those things...and the puppet master was Obama.

That's why Obama made sure that the puppet was the Democratic Party nominee. That's why the Obama supported the Trump haters in their election fraud that put the puppet in the WH. And that's why Obama made sure that more than 90% of the people in the puppet's administration came directly from the Obama administration.

So no...contrary to what Obama said about Biden ****ing things up, this **** up is entirely on Obama.
You have it all wrong. This is entirely on Trump. Had Trump taken the Covid-19 virus seriously from the start, worn a mask, told Americans to get vaccinated ASAP, he would still be President. But don't take my word, listen to the experts;

“If the President never gets COVID, he wins the election. Our polling showed a significant dip when that happened, particularly with suburban, college-educated, non-liberal men,” says GOP strategist Brad Todd. “Trump getting COVID sent a signal to those people that his management style had consequences even for him personally and was therefore unlikely to change"
 

Sand Castle

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 8, 2019
Messages
6,198
Reaction score
2,711
Location
Massachusetts
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
If I was the GOP I would be blasting advertisements blaming Biden for high prices at the gas pump and the loss of Afghanistan. It's an election year and more importantly, people vote with their wallets. I don't care what party, you support 7% inflation should get you kicked out of office.
Inflation will be gone 2024. Plain and simple.
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
91,653
Reaction score
39,394
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
You have it all wrong. This is entirely on Trump. Had Trump taken the Covid-19 virus seriously from the start, worn a mask, told Americans to get vaccinated ASAP, he would still be President. But don't take my word, listen to the experts;

“If the President never gets COVID, he wins the election. Our polling showed a significant dip when that happened, particularly with suburban, college-educated, non-liberal men,” says GOP strategist Brad Todd. “Trump getting COVID sent a signal to those people that his management style had consequences even for him personally and was therefore unlikely to change"
Sorry, but you are being dishonest when you make Trump/COVID the boogyman.

The Biden pukes are working for Obama's goals and his goals predates both Trump and COVID.
 

Jkca1

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 10, 2021
Messages
1,013
Reaction score
711
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
Inflation will be gone 2024. Plain and simple
Maybe, but the 2022 congressional elections are right around the corner. The GOP can make significant gains in the house and Senate. Biden will then be a lame duck with 2 years left to serve in office.
 

Sand Castle

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 8, 2019
Messages
6,198
Reaction score
2,711
Location
Massachusetts
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Not one response from the Right on a solution concerning oil companies and their supply negligence to the American people
 

BlueTex

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
41,855
Reaction score
32,280
Location
Texas
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
If I was the GOP I would be blasting advertisements blaming Biden for high prices at the gas pump and the loss of Afghanistan. It's an election year and more importantly, people vote with their wallets. I don't care what party, you support 7% inflation should get you kicked out of office.


And the democrats should introduce a bill terminating all permits on federal lands that are not being drilled with 90 days...
 

Sand Castle

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 8, 2019
Messages
6,198
Reaction score
2,711
Location
Massachusetts
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Sorry, but you are being dishonest when you make Trump/COVID the boogyman.

The Biden pukes are working for Obama's goals and his goals predates both Trump and COVID.
Although complete bullshit, an Obama puppet is certainly better then the last puke, the Putin puppet
 

Sand Castle

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 8, 2019
Messages
6,198
Reaction score
2,711
Location
Massachusetts
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
Maybe, but the 2022 congressional elections are right around the corner. The GOP can make significant gains in the house and Senate. Biden will then be a lame duck with 2 years left to serve in office.
Yes this inflation will negatively affect Dems 2022. Although trumps mouth will certainly have effects on the Right
 

Jkca1

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Aug 10, 2021
Messages
1,013
Reaction score
711
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
Sorry, but you are being dishonest when you make Trump/COVID the boogyman.

The Biden pukes are working for Obama's goals and his goals predates both Trump and COVID.
I don't see dishonesty. The fact of the matter is Trump lost because of Covid. No disagreement there right? The economy
And the democrats should introduce a bill terminating all permits on federal lands that are not being drilled with 90 days...
How does introducing a bill that eliminates the potential of new oil reserves and lower prices help Biden? He already has the Sierra Club vote.
 

Mycroft

Genius is where you find it.
DP Veteran
Joined
Oct 27, 2011
Messages
91,653
Reaction score
39,394
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Conservative
Although complete bullshit, an Obama puppet is certainly better then the last puke, the Putin puppet
There you go...another boogyman. Now it's Trump/Russia.

Please...just stop being dishonest.

It's Obama who wanted coal produced energy to cost so much the industry would go out of business. And it's Obama who is working with his puppet's administration to make oil so expensive that people will pay the higher costs for alternative energy...and driving the oil industry out of business.
 

Airyaman

New Druid
Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Joined
Dec 4, 2018
Messages
20,165
Reaction score
17,809
Location
AL
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Other
You have some seriously stupid positions, guided by your blind partisan hatred.

Biden inheriited an energy policy that resulted in the US become energy independent and a net exporter of oil and natural gas...and that literally had **** all to do with government ownership of the oil in dustry. If Biden and the moronic ****wits that support him werent so blindly invested in a failed green energy program and making sure they undid everything Trump accomplished (not because it was the right thing to do but purely out of sheer spite and hatred), we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place. He had one job...just dont **** up the progress made. Unfortunately, when Obama said "Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up"...he wasnt kidding.
Biden did not inherit any "energy policy". He inherited a country (and world) recovering from COVID19, and the oil industry was also a victim. Low oil prices forced several companies to close up shop, and others to stop production at sites that were high cost to get the oil. As the economy ramped up, production couldn't keep up because of the shuttering of so many sites.

Sure, Biden tried to stop leases on Federal lands, but he has not been successful. The US is on track to produce more oil in 2022 and 2023 than ever in history. But he can't do anything about OPEC keeping the prices inflated by limiting their own production.
 

BlueTex

DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 15, 2019
Messages
41,855
Reaction score
32,280
Location
Texas
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Slightly Liberal
I don't see dishonesty. The fact of the matter is Trump lost because of Covid. No disagreement there right? The economy

How does introducing a bill that eliminates the potential of new oil reserves and lower prices help Biden? He already has the Sierra Club vote.

New oil reserves are worthless to the American people if the oil companies are just going to sit on them... An unused permit doesn't do crap for oil prices...
 

VanceMack

MSG Benavidez TAB
DP Veteran
Joined
Feb 1, 2010
Messages
84,075
Reaction score
37,081
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent
Biden did not inherit any "energy policy". He inherited a country (and world) recovering from COVID19, and the oil industry was also a victim. Low oil prices forced several companies to close up shop, and others to stop production at sites that were high cost to get the oil. As the economy ramped up, production couldn't keep up because of the shuttering of so many sites.

Sure, Biden tried to stop leases on Federal lands, but he has not been successful. The US is on track to produce more oil in 2022 and 2023 than ever in history. But he can't do anything about OPEC keeping the prices inflated by limiting their own production.
Horseshit. From the day he took office the only active steps Biden took was to undo the Trump policies, especially energy and immigration. And look how badly he has managed to **** it all up, thanks to the morons that put him in office.
 
Top Bottom