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State of Disunion: Republicans Beat Up on Bush After Speech

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Any spin that Bush's handlers were attempting to put on Bush's State of the Union Address was quickly blown away, as dozens of Republicans bashed Bush for about 2 hours following the speech. Not only that, but some of those Republicans gave Jim Webb's short 5 minute speech afterwards more credence, especially John Warner, who was impressed with Webb.

It seems that many Republicans now see the writing on the wall, and are beginning to distance themselves from Bush, who they now see as an albatross around the necks of their political futures.

Article is here.
 
Any spin that Bush's handlers were attempting to put on Bush's State of the Union Address was quickly blown away, as dozens of Republicans bashed Bush for about 2 hours following the speech. Not only that, but some of those Republicans gave Jim Webb's short 5 minute speech afterwards more credence, especially John Warner, who was impressed with Webb.

It seems that many Republicans now see the writing on the wall, and are beginning to distance themselves from Bush, who they now see as an albatross around the necks of their political futures.

Article is here.

Jim Webb's speech was very "cut and run" end of story. I don't even believe most dems are as "cut and run" minded as Webb is. In any event the Republicans are in an odd place right now. If things get better in Iraq they will look bad if they were seen as abandoning the Prez if things get worse they want to have some distance.

Obama's and Hilary's comments were more effective and realistic than Webb's and more in line, in my mind, with the rest of the country. Most don't want to leave right now and there is no other way Webb's response could be interpreted.

Personally I'd like to see every single member of congress go completely on record right now about what they'd like to see done in Iraq. Rather than have them "gambling" on which positions may or may not benefit them in the future. They should be hooked up to lie detectors and forced to talk honestly about the mess we are in and the paths we should take.
 
Any spin that Bush's handlers were attempting to put on Bush's State of the Union Address was quickly blown away, as dozens of Republicans bashed Bush for about 2 hours following the speech. Not only that, but some of those Republicans gave Jim Webb's short 5 minute speech afterwards more credence, especially John Warner, who was impressed with Webb.

It seems that many Republicans now see the writing on the wall, and are beginning to distance themselves from Bush, who they now see as an albatross around the necks of their political futures.

Article is here.

Wow! The last thing I expected is to learn the nature of Bush's proposed Health Care plans from a conservative Republican (quoted from your linked article):

On health care, Larry Craig (R-Idaho) said Bush's plan "moves us in the right direction." But he worries about how the plan would treat employers' contributions toward health insurance as taxable income.

"Unfortunately, the accompanying tax increase will be impossible to swallow," he said.

I am favorable to the spirit of Bush's plan, but I misunderstood what he was proposing. If the plan creates a de facto tax increase on some of the Middle Class and Working Poor, then I wouldn't support it under any circumstances. I haven't fully looked at the proposal, but perhaps there is some way to fix it.

Thank you Larry Craig.
 
Wow! The last thing I expected is to learn the nature of Bush's proposed Health Care plans from a conservative Republican (quoted from your linked article):



I am favorable to the spirit of Bush's plan, but I misunderstood what he was proposing. If the plan creates a de facto tax increase on some of the Middle Class and Working Poor, then I wouldn't support it under any circumstances. I haven't fully looked at the proposal, but perhaps there is some way to fix it.

Thank you Larry Craig.

I'm interested in Bush's health care plan though I have little hope of it going anywhere. Mostly I'm interested because I pay for my own healthcare anyway. And it seems to me that the idea behind the plan is to have more and more people pay for their own insurance which will drive the prices of individual plans down. The prices today are absolutely ridiculous. And if I can get a tax break paying for my own insurance as well as have the prices go down I'm all for it. It will also help young people who can't afford the high price of paying for their own insurance by hopefully making insurance for individuals cheaper. But it won't do anything for those who ultimately want free health care across the board.
 
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