Stalled coronavirus relief negotiations hit new obstacle: State aid

[Conservative]

Stalled coronavirus relief negotiations hit new obstacle: State aid | Fox News

White House officials and Democratic leaders remained at an impasse Monday over another coronavirus relief package, with aid for cash-strapped state and local governments emerging as the latest obstacle in negotiations.
The two sides are at odds over whether states should receive additional funding in the next round of emergency aid -- and if so, how much.

Is there any doubt about today's radical Democratic Party that promotes high state and local taxes to fund their social liberal spending programs. Wonder what would happen if Blue state Democrats would stop driving people away from their state?

Are the wealthy fleeing California taxes? – Orange County Register

As the wealthy flee New York, poorest will be most affected | TheHill

New IRS Migration Numbers Confirm Flight of Illinois' Wealthy

Now we really know why the left is so upset over the Trump tax cuts, it reduces the deduction on their federal return for high state and local taxes. Now they want to federal taxpayers to subsidize their waste, fraud, and high cost of living in the state.

Trump and Republicans agree to support the states with COVID 19 costs but not bail them out of their own financial problems. Time for a change, Democrats!!

 

[bluesmoke]

Stalled coronavirus relief negotiations hit new obstacle: State aid | Fox News



Is there any doubt about today's radical Democratic Party that promotes high state and local taxes to fund their social liberal spending programs. Wonder what would happen if Blue state Democrats would stop driving people away from their state?

Are the wealthy fleeing California taxes? – Orange County Register

As the wealthy flee New York, poorest will be most affected | TheHill

New IRS Migration Numbers Confirm Flight of Illinois' Wealthy

Now we really know why the left is so upset over the Trump tax cuts, it reduces the deduction on their federal return for high state and local taxes. Now they want to federal taxpayers to subsidize their waste, fraud, and high cost of living in the state.

Trump and Republicans agree to support the states with COVID 19 costs but not bail them out of their own financial problems. Time for a change, Democrats!!

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Trump gave the rich and large corps $2T in wealth redistribution through His tax plan to subsidize their "waste, fraud, and high cost of living". Explain the diff.

 

[Moderate Right]

Wonder what would happen if Blue state Democrats would stop driving people away from their state?

That's an easy question. They would put higher taxes on the remaining people to make up for those that left their high taxed state. It only makes liberal sense.

 

[Jetboogieman]

It literally seems many on this board I quite content to destroy their own country so they can say they won the argument here.

If you let States and Municipalities collapse, there’ll be even less to help fuel recovery.

If you don’t get help to Americans NOW who are out of work, there will be millions more destitute Americans and less consumers to help fuel recovery.


But you don’t care, the cruelty is the point.

 

[Conservative]

Trump gave the rich and large corps $2T in wealth redistribution through His tax plan to subsidize their "waste, fraud, and high cost of living". Explain the diff.

And what did those evil rich corporations do with that money? Dividends, charities, benefit enhancements? Your partisan class envy rhetoric is on full display. In spite of what you claim corporations are in business to make a profit for their management, employees, and shareholders. Your problem is you buy liberal rhetoric and cannot think beyond what you are being told

 

[Drawdown]

It literally seems many on this board I quite content to destroy their own country so they can say they won the argument here.

If you let States and Municipalities collapse, there’ll be even less to help fuel recovery.

If you don’t get help to Americans NOW who are out of work, there will be millions more destitute Americans and less consumers to help fuel recovery.


But you don’t care, the cruelty is the point.

My city just magically decided that most everybody's property was worth more when the city council refused to let them raise rates after having just done so last year. Apparently COVID gave me an extra 10% in wealth once the little assessor car sat in front of my house for 5 minutes.

 

[year2late]

Trump and Republicans agree to support the states with COVID 19 costs but not bail them out of their own financial problems. Time for a change, Democrats!!

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FWIW, California is #30 in receiver of federal aid. (non covid)

Which States Rely the Most on Federal Aid? | Tax Foundation

How does it look for red states in general?

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

It literally seems many on this board I quite content to destroy their own country so they can say they won the argument here.

If you let States and Municipalities collapse, there’ll be even less to help fuel recovery.

If you don’t get help to Americans NOW who are out of work, there will be millions more destitute Americans and less consumers to help fuel recovery.


But you don’t care, the cruelty is the point.

If the US thinks that the protests and riots are bad now, wait until millions are hungry and homeless.

 

[Conservative]

It literally seems many on this board I quite content to destroy their own country so they can say they won the argument here.

If you let States and Municipalities collapse, there’ll be even less to help fuel recovery.

If you don’t get help to Americans NOW who are out of work, there will be millions more destitute Americans and less consumers to help fuel recovery.


But you don’t care, the cruelty is the point.

Right, the cost of liberalism is free since it is funded by someone else, please to us all why the federal taxpayers of the United States should fund the waste, fraud, abuse in specific states? Why are people fleeing those states since liberalism is so compassionate? If states and local governments collapse then blame the right people for that collapse

 

[Conservative]

FWIW, California is #30 in receiver of federal aid. (non covid)

Which States Rely the Most on Federal Aid? | Tax Foundation

How does it look for red states in general?

That is a lie, California is the largest receiver of Federal mandate and expense money

http://knowledgecenter.csg.org/kc/system/files/2017_CFFR_Report_3.pdf

As with far too many they cannot separate Federal income taxes paid vs federal mandates and expenses paid for, go to the link and find out what the federal taxpayers fund in those evil states that you claim get more back than sent, total irrelevance

 

[Conservative]

It literally seems many on this board I quite content to destroy their own country so they can say they won the argument here.

If you let States and Municipalities collapse, there’ll be even less to help fuel recovery.

If you don’t get help to Americans NOW who are out of work, there will be millions more destitute Americans and less consumers to help fuel recovery.


But you don’t care, the cruelty is the point.

You must be so proud of today's Democratic Party

House Dems vote against resolution condemns violence and rioting

 

[Glitch]

It literally seems many on this board I quite content to destroy their own country so they can say they won the argument here.

If you let States and Municipalities collapse, there’ll be even less to help fuel recovery.

If you don’t get help to Americans NOW who are out of work, there will be millions more destitute Americans and less consumers to help fuel recovery.


But you don’t care, the cruelty is the point.

You leftists should have thought of that before shutting down the States and telling people they can no longer earn a living or feed their families. Talking about cruelty, you clearly have no clue.

 

[JasperL]

My city just magically decided that most everybody's property was worth more when the city council refused to let them raise rates after having just done so last year. Apparently COVID gave me an extra 10% in wealth once the little assessor car sat in front of my house for 5 minutes.

Well, housing prices are going up in many areas. If they are in your area like many places, are you entitled to not see the value increase for tax purposes as it increases for all other purposes?

 

[JasperL]

You leftists should have thought of that before shutting down the States and telling people they can no longer earn a living or feed their families. Talking about cruelty, you clearly have no clue.

My state is deep red and shut down. It's idiotic to make this partisan. The virus is what shut down businesses. But if you want to pretend it's all the liberals' fault to make yourself feel better, that's fine. That and a blanket and some warm milk with a cookie sounds about right.

 

[Outlook]

It literally seems many on this board I quite content to destroy their own country so they can say they won the argument here.

If you let States and Municipalities collapse, there’ll be even less to help fuel recovery.

If you don’t get help to Americans NOW who are out of work, there will be millions more destitute Americans and less consumers to help fuel recovery.


But you don’t care, the cruelty is the point.

The democrats have already done a good job destroying the cities. This has been going on for years. The virus and lockdowns are only one of many factors. Look what the democrats have done to my home city of Detroit with decades of bad policies.
What happened in Detroit will start to happen in other cities.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Is there any doubt about today's radical Democratic Party that promotes high state and local taxes to fund .......

Wow.

The "stalled" FEDERAL stimulus package is not going anywhere because the GOP controlled Senate could not get their act together and pass anything. The House has a package done and passed, the GOP went on vacation in the middle of a pandemic AND the worst economic crisis of our lifetime. The ridiculous exec action requires states to fund 25% of it, when their coffers are nearly empty because of covid spending and reduced sales tax revenue.

The GOP is content to let this crisis get worse. Somehow they think this is how you win in November. Vote the assholes out. To hell with the Orange Asshole, to hell with McSally.

 

[Conservative]

Wow.

The "stalled" FEDERAL stimulus package is not going anywhere because the GOP controlled Senate could not get their act together and pass anything. The House has a package done and passed, the GOP went on vacation in the middle of a pandemic AND the worst economic crisis of our lifetime. The ridiculous exec action requires states to fund 25% of it, when their coffers are nearly empty because of covid spending and reduced sales tax revenue.

The GOP is content to let this crisis get worse. Somehow they think this is how you win in November. Vote the assholes out. To hell with the Orange Asshole, to hell with McSally.

Right, the GOP senate is doing what is right refusing to fund state and local expenses that aren't COVID 19 expenses. As I recall you live in a red state, low taxes but have no problem with blue states deducting their high state and local taxes from their federal returns claiming that tax cuts only went to the rich? You are nothing but a partisan leftwing radical whose passion for today's Democratic Party is stunningly ignorance

House Dems vote against resolution condemns violence and rioting

 

[Glitch]

My state is deep red and shut down. It's idiotic to make this partisan. The virus is what shut down businesses. But if you want to pretend it's all the liberals' fault to make yourself feel better, that's fine. That and a blanket and some warm milk with a cookie sounds about right.

Alaska is a red State and has been open since April 27th. The only places that are shutdown are all Democrat-controlled sh*tholes. It is entirely partisan. Democrats are intentionally destroying the economy and intentionally killing tens of thousands of Americans just to try to make Trump look bad. Democrats shut down businesses, not any virus. We've had much worse, and there was no panic or the shutdown of the economy because it wasn't an election year. This is entirely political, and manufactured by the Democratic Party terrorist organization.

 

[Mithros]

Stalled coronavirus relief negotiations hit new obstacle: State aid | Fox News



Is there any doubt about today's radical Democratic Party that promotes high state and local taxes to fund their social liberal spending programs. Wonder what would happen if Blue state Democrats would stop driving people away from their state?

Are the wealthy fleeing California taxes? – Orange County Register

As the wealthy flee New York, poorest will be most affected | TheHill

New IRS Migration Numbers Confirm Flight of Illinois' Wealthy

Now we really know why the left is so upset over the Trump tax cuts, it reduces the deduction on their federal return for high state and local taxes. Now they want to federal taxpayers to subsidize their waste, fraud, and high cost of living in the state.

Trump and Republicans agree to support the states with COVID 19 costs but not bail them out of their own financial problems. Time for a change, Democrats!!

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Such irony. A poster who lives off the tax payer dime is extolling the virtues of the states that only survive because of federal welfare while ripping the states that pay for everything. And on top of that simultaneously claiming that Democrats want to defund the police but refusing to provide the money necessary to actually fund the police.

You want to make America great again? "A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in". Society doesn't do so well when the only thing old men are willing to sacrifice is their children's future. If you want to MAGA try doing something other than being the first in line for handouts and the last to give a hand.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

You leftists should have thought of that before shutting down the States and telling people they can no longer earn a living or feed their families. Talking about cruelty, you clearly have no clue.

Uh, people shut down the local economies, people choosing on their own to not go out and purchase in crowded groceries stores, to not go to crowded restaurants and bars, ect. Consumer demand reduction PRECEDED guv's shutdown orders.

Your meme is false.

 

[year2late]

You leftists should have thought of that before shutting down the States and telling people they can no longer earn a living or feed their families. Talking about cruelty, you clearly have no clue.

Dude, everybody just needed to wear a mask, socially distance and stay away from crowds to give time for testing to ramp up (meaning under one day results) and contact tracing.

This could have been over months ago. Our kids could have been completely back at school.

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Alaska is a red State and has been open since April 27th. The only places that are shutdown are all Democrat-controlled sh*tholes.

Sure, like Arizona.

Pure ignorant blowhard noise.

 

[Glitch]

Wow.

The "stalled" FEDERAL stimulus package is not going anywhere because the GOP controlled Senate could not get their act together and pass anything. The House has a package done and passed, the GOP went on vacation in the middle of a pandemic AND the worst economic crisis of our lifetime. The ridiculous exec action requires states to fund 25% of it, when their coffers are nearly empty because of covid spending and reduced sales tax revenue.

The GOP is content to let this crisis get worse. Somehow they think this is how you win in November. Vote the assholes out. To hell with the Orange Asshole, to hell with McSally.

Any federal "stimulus" package is unconstitutional. But since when did the US Constitution ever stop a leftist freak?

 

[CaughtInThe]

It literally seems many on this board I quite content to destroy their own country so they can say they won the argument here.

If you let States and Municipalities collapse, there’ll be even less to help fuel recovery.

If you don’t get help to Americans NOW who are out of work, there will be millions more destitute Americans and less consumers to help fuel recovery.


But you don’t care, the cruelty is the point.

and they're so stupid that they don't understand that they're destroying (and killing via no masks during a pandemic) REPUBLICANS and REPUBLICAN workers/small businesses.


idiots.

 

[JasperL]

Alaska is a red State and has been open since April 27th. The only places that are shutdown are all Democrat-controlled sh*tholes. It is entirely partisan. Democrats are intentionally destroying the economy and intentionally killing tens of thousands of Americans just to try to make Trump look bad. Democrats shut down businesses, not any virus. We've had much worse, and there was no panic or the shutdown of the economy because it wasn't an election year. This is entirely political, and manufactured by the Democratic Party terrorist organization.

LOL, OK. :lamo

Hope your next step is to get that warm milk and a cookie.