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Sounds about right...

This is another example of how incredibly Biblically ignorant you are.

Trump was not a Christian until just before the election, according to sources.

“Yes, there was an absolute moment that he received Jesus as Lord and Savior,” she says. “I have led many high-profile people to the Lord.” - Evangelist Paula White

And even though Trump was reportedly a new Christian then, the path to becoming less and less like one's former self can take decades. In fact, PROGRESSIVE SANCTIFICATION is a life-long endeavor.

What is Progressive Sanctification?

"The second stage of sanctification requires a lifetime to complete. As we grow in grace, we are gradually – but steadily – changing to be more like Jesus (2 Corinthians 3:18). This occurs in a process of daily spiritual renewal (Colossians 3:10). The apostle Paul himself was being sanctified even as he ministered to others. Paul claimed that he had not reached perfection, but that he “pressed on” to attain everything Christ desired for him (Philippians 3:12)."

https://www.gotquestions.org/progressive-sanctification.html

In 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 the Apostle Paul wrote,

"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

The renowned English Preacher Charles Spurgeon once noted: "If you are renewed by grace, and were to meet your old self, I am sure you would be very anxious to get out of his company.”

As will Donald Trump in time. Sure, he has quite a ways to go, as do all Christians. But at least we're saved.

And once again it is duly noted: "Trump is in office not because he doesn't have warts that many Christians and conservatives have noted and discussed, but because even with all his baggage he was STILL a much better choice for president than that lying, greedy, corrupt, immoral, left-wing, incompetent, cellulite-infested, walking gas bag Hillary Clinton."

People ask how evangelicals can call themselves Christians and vote for Trump? However, the real question is how can we call ourselves Christians and vote for Hillary?

And the fact is if there was a perfect Republican Christian candidate, people like you wouldn't vote for him anyway. That's how much you folks despise Christianity. And that's why Trump is in the White House.

So get a new dog. Your holier-than-thou mutt did not make it around the arena.

You tried that line before> So what's that, number 5 on my list?

5) Trump is really a Christian. He's working on it vewy hawd!

Any evidence that Dumpie Trumpie did any of this:
https://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Christian

...or is he exempt? Trump is the guy, that on Thanksgiving, gave thanks for himself!:lamo

I can't wait for Christmas. "Lo and behold! On this day, unto us, a TRUMP was born."

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I can't remember if you've tried this cop-out:
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That one is a version of the message used by the radio preachers trying to get folks to vote for the amoral heathen Trump. As opposed to Cruz, no less (it started in the primaries after Trump met with Falwell Jr.).

It's hard to confess, repent and follow Christ when you're stuffing your pockets and banging porn sluts.
 
You tried that line before> So what's that, number 5 on my list?

5) Trump is really a Christian. He's working on it vewy hawd!

Any evidence...

It's hard to confess, repent and follow Christ when you're stuffing your pockets and banging porn sluts.

You didn't learn a thing, did you?

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You tried that line before> So what's that, number 5 on my list?

5) Trump is really a Christian. He's working on it vewy hawd!

You never answered the question about who YOU voted for??

Cat got your tongue? Afraid to answer? Which loser was it, dox??
 
You tried that line before> So what's that, number 5 on my list?

5) Trump is really a Christian. He's working on it vewy hawd!

Any evidence that Dumpie Trumpie did any of this:
https://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Christian

...or is he exempt? Trump is the guy, that on Thanksgiving, gave thanks for himself!:lamo

I can't wait for Christmas. "Lo and behold! On this day, unto us, a TRUMP was born."

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I can't remember if you've tried this cop-out:
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That one is a version of the message used by the radio preachers trying to get folks to vote for the amoral heathen Trump. As opposed to Cruz, no less (it started in the primaries after Trump met with Falwell Jr.).

It's hard to confess, repent and follow Christ when you're stuffing your pockets and banging porn sluts.

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You never answered the question about who YOU voted for??

Cat got your tongue? Afraid to answer? Which loser was it, dox??

You are trying to run away from the point.

Here, let me help you. This is a representation of the plank in your eye. It's your own sig:

"Progressives aren't really progressive. They're regressive, all the way back to Sodom and Gomorrah." - author unknown

The religious right has been playing that "holier than thou", "character counts" tune since the 1970's. Do you remember Jerry Falwell and his ilk getting upset for a couple of years over Jimmy Carter admitting he had felt "lust in his heart"? My, my, we've come a long way...:lamo
 
You are trying to run away from the point.

Here, let me help you. This is a representation of the plank in your eye. It's your own sig:



The religious right has been playing that "holier than thou", "character counts" tune since the 1970's. Do you remember Jerry Falwell and his ilk getting upset for a couple of years over Jimmy Carter admitting he had felt "lust in his heart"? My, my, we've come a long way...

Hey, flash for you. It's not "holier than thou" if it's right on message.

And STILL, you're running and dodging and avoiding answering the question about who you voted for in the last election. Are you ashamed of your choices? Scared of showing what's in your heart? Where's your courage??
 
Wrong. If you can't come up with any specifics, I don't need to refute anything. I'll accept your concession.

How about this?

"The religious right has been playing that "holier than thou", "character counts" tune since the 1970's. Do you remember Jerry Falwell and his ilk getting upset for a couple of years over Jimmy Carter admitting he had felt "lust in his heart"? My, my, we've come a long way."

No, I don't remember that at all, how about some proof?
 
How about this?

"The religious right has been playing that "holier than thou", "character counts" tune since the 1970's. Do you remember Jerry Falwell and his ilk getting upset for a couple of years over Jimmy Carter admitting he had felt "lust in his heart"? My, my, we've come a long way."

No, I don't remember that at all, how about some proof?

It looks like what Falwell was ranting about in the 1970's was the fact that Carter did an interview with Playboy. These days, Falwell's son:
https://www.wthrockmorton.com/tag/jerry-falwell-sr/

Falwell has been defiant in responding to criticism even blocking critical Liberty University students on Twitter.
While Falwell, Jr. may not have known the Playboy cover was in the photo, he has taken a cavalier approach to Donald Trump’s relationship with Hugh Hefner and the publication. Trump gave interviews in 1990 and 2004 to Playboy and in 2006 rewarded an Apprentice team with a trip to the Playboy mansion. Trump showed up for the festivities.
Falwell, Jr’s approach is in sharp contrast to his father’s expressions of condemnation.
In 1976, presidential candidate Jimmy Carter gave an interview which was published in Playboy magazine. This was the famous “lust in the heart” interview where Carter acknowledged attractions to women in the context of Jesus’ teaching not to engage in lust in one’s heart.
After Carter left office, leader of the Moral Majority Jerry Falwell, Sr. condemned Carter for allowing his interview to be published in Playboy which Falwell called “a salacious vulgar magazine that did not even deserve the time of day.”

I got a detail wrong, but the hypocrisy and moral relativism is the same. Trump's millions of Christian sycophants don't criticize a single thing he's said or done. They used to claim character was very important.
 
Trump's millions of Christian sycophants don't criticize a single thing he's said or done.

Bull. There's been plenty of debate about him and his actions. But once again, and this appears to go over your head every time,

Trump is in office not because he doesn't have warts that many Christians and conservatives have noted and discussed, but because even with all his baggage he was STILL a much better choice for president than that lying, greedy, corrupt, immoral, left-wing, incompetent, cellulite-infested, walking gas bag Hillary Clinton.
 
Bull. There's been plenty of debate about him and his actions. But once again, and this appears to go over your head every time,

Trump is in office not because he doesn't have warts that many Christians and conservatives have noted and discussed, but because even with all his baggage he was STILL a much better choice for president than that lying, greedy, corrupt, immoral, left-wing, incompetent, cellulite-infested, walking gas bag Hillary Clinton.
:lamo

Hilariously informative that every adjective you apply there fits Trump except "left". So your criteria don't include morals, values, or any of the other dog food you like to peddle. He literally could shoot someone in cold blood and not lose the "values voters". :roll:

HDS is terminal, I guess.
 
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It looks like what Falwell was ranting about in the 1970's was the fact that Carter did an interview with Playboy. These days, Falwell's son:
https://www.wthrockmorton.com/tag/jerry-falwell-sr/



I got a detail wrong, but the hypocrisy and moral relativism is the same. Trump's millions of Christian sycophants don't criticize a single thing he's said or done. They used to claim character was very important.

It's just amazing to me how fundamentalist the left can be when it suits them, and you do know that Jerry Falwell is dead and has been for some time, right?

The reason I would never, ever criticise Trump is because I don't want anybody to think I am on your side. It's no more complicated than that.
 
It's just amazing to me how fundamentalist the left can be when it suits them, and you do know that Jerry Falwell is dead and has been for some time, right?

The reason I would never, ever criticise Trump is because I don't want anybody to think I am on your side. It's no more complicated than that.

Your denomination isn't generally thought to be part of the Trump cult, but there are always exceptions.
 
It's just amazing to me how fundamentalist the left can be when it suits them, and you do know that Jerry Falwell is dead and has been for some time, right?

The reason I would never, ever criticise Trump is because I don't want anybody to think I am on your side. It's no more complicated than that.

What about being on God's side?
 
Hilariously informative that every adjective you apply there fits Trump except "left". So your criteria don't include morals, values, or any of the other dog food you like to peddle. He literally could shoot someone in cold blood and not lose the "values voters".

HDS is terminal, I guess.

So, how was that shower of yours washing off all the slime and ignorance from voting for Crooked Hillary??
 
Your denomination isn't generally thought to be part of the Trump cult, but there are always exceptions.

Oh, you'll see to that, I'm sure. You need to ditch this black/white thinking.
 
What about it, heretic?

Coming from you, I consider being called that a privilege...

The Bible Survived Opposition
THE THREAT: Many political and religious leaders pursued an agenda contrary to the Bible’s message. Often, they used their authority to stop people from owning, producing, or translating the Bible. Consider two examples:

About 167 B.C.E.: Seleucid King Antiochus Epiphanes, who sought to force Greek religion on the Jews, ordered all copies of the Hebrew Scriptures to be destroyed. His officials “tore and burnt the rolls of the Law whenever they found them,” wrote historian Heinrich Graetz, “and killed those who were found to seek strength and consolation in their perusal.”

Middle Ages: Some Catholic leaders, upset that the laity were preaching what the Bible teaches rather than Catholic dogma, branded as heretics any laymen who possessed Bible books other than the Psalms in Latin. One church council enforced the command by directing that their men “diligently, faithfully, and frequently seek out the heretics . . . by searching all houses and subterranean chambers which lie under any suspicion. . . . The house in which any heretic shall be found shall be destroyed.”

If the Bible’s enemies had succeeded in stamping it out, its message would have disappeared.

HOW THE BIBLE SURVIVED: King Antiochus focused his campaign on Israel, but the Jews had formed communities in numerous other lands. In fact, scholars estimate that by the first century C.E., over 60 percent of Jews lived outside Israel. In their synagogues, the Jews kept copies of the Scriptures​—the same Scriptures that were used by future generations, including Christians.​—Acts 15:21.

During the Middle Ages, lovers of the Bible braved persecution and continued to translate and copy the Scriptures. Even before the movable-type printing press was invented in the middle of the 15th century, portions of the Bible may have been available in as many as 33 languages. Thereafter, the Bible was translated and produced at an unprecedented pace.

THE RESULT: Despite threats from powerful kings and misguided clergymen, the Bible is the most widely distributed and most translated book in history. It has shaped the laws and languages of some countries, as well as the lives of millions.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2016246?q=heretics&p=sen#h=5
 
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Coming from you, I consider being called that a privilege...



https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2016246?q=heretics&p=sen#h=5

Being as how I'm an Anglican, here's something from Dr. Bede, who knows more about history than the JW cult:

"When this storm of persecution came to an end, faithful Christians, who during the time of danger had taken refuge in woods, deserted places, and hidden caves, came into the open, and rebuilt the ruined churches. Shrines of the martyrs were founded and completed and openly displayed everywhere as tokens of victory. The festivals of the Church were observed, and its rites performed reverently and sincerely. The Christian churches in Britain continued to enjoy this peace until the time of the Arian heresy.15 This poisonous error after corrupting the whole world, at length crossed the sea and infected even this remote island; and, once the doorway had been opened, every sort of pestilential heresy at once poured into this island, whose people are ready to listen to anything novel, and never hold firmly to anything."
 
More JW propaganda....

Yes indeed. The JW Cult embraced the Arian Heresy and made it their own belief system.

Question: "What is Arianism?"

"Answer: Arianism is a heresy named for Arius, a priest and false teacher in the early fourth century AD in Alexandria, Egypt. One of the earliest and probably the most important item of debate among early Christians was the subject of Christ’s deity. Was Jesus truly God in the flesh, or was Jesus a created being? Was Jesus God or not? Arius denied the deity of the Son of God, holding that Jesus was created by God as the first act of creation and that the nature of Christ was anomoios (“unlike”) that of God the Father. Arianism, then, is the view that Jesus is a finite created being with some divine attributes, but He is not eternal and not divine in and of Himself."

"After nearly a century of debate at various early church councils, the Christian church officially denounced Arianism as a false doctrine. Since that time, Arianism has never been accepted as a viable doctrine of the Christian faith. Arianism has not died out, however. Arianism has continued through the centuries in varying forms. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons of today hold a very Arian-like position on Christ’s nature. Following the example of the early church, we must denounce any and all attacks on the deity of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ."

https://www.gotquestions.org/arianism.html
 
Yes indeed. The JW Cult embraced the Arian Heresy and made it their own belief system.

Question: "What is Arianism?"

"Answer: Arianism is a heresy named for Arius, a priest and false teacher in the early fourth century AD in Alexandria, Egypt. One of the earliest and probably the most important item of debate among early Christians was the subject of Christ’s deity. Was Jesus truly God in the flesh, or was Jesus a created being? Was Jesus God or not? Arius denied the deity of the Son of God, holding that Jesus was created by God as the first act of creation and that the nature of Christ was anomoios (“unlike”) that of God the Father. Arianism, then, is the view that Jesus is a finite created being with some divine attributes, but He is not eternal and not divine in and of Himself."

"After nearly a century of debate at various early church councils, the Christian church officially denounced Arianism as a false doctrine. Since that time, Arianism has never been accepted as a viable doctrine of the Christian faith. Arianism has not died out, however. Arianism has continued through the centuries in varying forms. The Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons of today hold a very Arian-like position on Christ’s nature. Following the example of the early church, we must denounce any and all attacks on the deity of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ."

https://www.gotquestions.org/arianism.html

The atheists/leftists will be along (they know who they are) to defend arianism in a few hours, I expect. Isn't it funny that such heterodoxy is supported by the very people who claim to have "no belief" (unless it's against Christianity, that is).
 
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